SWAN HILL GENEALOGICAL & HISTORICAL SOCIETY
P.O. Box 1232 Swan Hill  3585

A Group Member of
Genealogical Society of Victoria

The members workshop we held at Woorinen school was a great success, we will hold another in the near future, any suggestions which could improve on the previous workshops would be very welcome.

A Bus outing to the Laverton Records Office, G.S.V. and the Latrobe Library, perhaps in conjunction with Kerang Group has been suggested. We will try to finalise arrangements at March meeting.

We hope to have Queensland & Western Australia B.D.M. soon and are looking at a possible purchase of  I.G.I. Fiche.

Demand for our index fiche and books in high after each meeting, but they get little use in the week or two before the meeting. They are there to use, make a booking with Jenny Dedman.

The Assistant Secretary position is still vacant. The job only entails taking the minutes at the odd meeting when Kevin is absent and attending committee meetings. If our committee is too small it cannot have the wide range of ideas we need to continue as well as we should.

AGENDA - 3 MONTHLY  1987	SUPPER DUTY	COMPETITION ROSTER
MARCH : Overseas Research	Edna Bowen	Marg Clark
APRIL : Charts Documents & Forms	Shirley Durden	Joan Horsburgh
MAY : Inquests & Wills	Sandy Trahar	Kevin Vanderstoel
JUNE :	Dawn White	Jim Strugnell

FAMILY MEMBERSHIP:  2 persons & 1 newsletter
 

NEW MEMBERS:

RESEARCH DIRECTORY:

CAMERON	1830'S	LOCHABER	INVERNESSSHIRE	SCOTLAND
Wilma Hickson, 10 Byrnes Street, Swan Hill
ELLIOT	1800	BENALLA	VICTORIA	AUSTRALIA
Patricia E. Hughes, 5 Byrnes Street, Swan Hill
HARVEY	<1911		CROYDON	ENGLAND
WELLS	1889	SWAN HILL	VICTORIA	AUSTRALIA
PARISH	1890	YELLINGIP	VICTORIA	AUSTRALIA
KELLEY	<1890	LORQUON	VICTORIA	AUSTRALIA
Geraldine A. Clohesy, Box 169, Nyah West
TAGGART	<1850	CASTLE DAWSON	CO DERRY	IRELAND
TAGGART	1852-1900		VICTORIA	AUSTRALIA
PENFOLD	1890	COPE COPE	VICTORIA	AUSTRALIA
Dorothy May Harvey, 12 Bright Street, Woorinen South

Richard, son of Henry Stewart of Perthshire said [sic] (sailed) on "India" which sank in the Atlantic Ocean, 1841.
Picked up by a Whaler and taken to Rio. One month later sailed on "Grindlay" to Australia. In Rio Richard married Mary Millar.

Family:

Henry b.1842 in Aust., Edward b.1844, Ellen b.1847, Agnes b.1850, Alex b.1859 (probably died early too) Mary Anne b.1857, George b.1860, William b.1854, Richard b.1852 drowned Black Rock 1877, George b.1856 died at 6 months.

Alexander d,1944 - Margaret d.1920

Great Grandson enquiring. Not necessarily in this area. Any details to Research Officer.

Research enquiries have been answered about the family names of Tranmore, McCaw and James with telephone enquiries regarding a Cornell child buried in Swan Hill Cemetery, who was a granddaughter of one of the first surveyors to be in this area. We were able to provide the date of burial - 1909 - which will allow a Death Certificate to be obtained. Another telephone query answered, concerned Mr. Alan Knose Chapman's burial date and grave number

An enquiry from U.S.A. concerned David Craigdallie/Craigdally, who came to Australia from scotland in 1849, living in New South Wales and Victoria. He was 40 years old and a storekeeper when he died on the 15th July, 1869 at Swan Hill, being buried there on 16th. July. Could anyone having, or seeing any reference to him in early Swan Hill historical material, please contact the Research Officer.

Information is sought on the Clone Family who were believed to have been at Wood Wood about 1850 to 1880; Mary, Michael, Elizabeth and James were born to John and Mary (nee Bowen) Cloney, while a death was recorded in 1859, of a John Cloney, possibly of Wood Wood.

Any details to the Research Officer
E. Bowen

I am writing to ask to ask if at your next meeting you could mention that a new group has been formed for the decendents [sic] of the British Army Redcoats.
I have contacted the G.S.V. and they are happy for this group to go ahead.
We are looking for anyone who is a descended from the Redcoats who came out on the first fleet onwards.
We plan to  issue every member with a certificate of membership and at a later date we hope to get badges done.
The cost of membership will be $2 joining fee and $5 membership. This is to help cover the costs of a newsletter we hope to bring out every two or three months. We would like to hear from anyone who may have items that we could print.
I look forward to hearing from your members.

These people are willing to assist with enquiries.

Mrs. Pamela Cornell P.O. Box 371 NORTH NOWRA,   N.S.W.  2541	- with N.S.W.Archive Enquiries - Wills - Blue Books etc. (charges unknown)
Chiltern Atheneum Museum Trust c/- Mr. Rex Fuge (Researcher) R.M.B. 1360  CHILTERN Telephone:  (057) 26 1467	- Museum open each Saturday 1pm-5pm or by appointment. Donation to Trust for Research
Mr. C.J. Marriott 51 Hollywell Road, Brant Road, Lincoln  LN5 9BZ  ENGLAND	- will assist Swan Hill Group members obtain Certificates, where possible. Is a member of Lincolnshire & Archaeology Society

Some Genealogical Resources in England:

• Society of Genealogists

14 Charter House Buildings
Goswell Road,
LONDON  EC1M 7BA

SUBSCRIPTION:
Joining fee of £7.50 and annual subscription of £14.00 payable January 1st. without notice. To join you must have a proposer who is a responsible person such as a doctor, employer or person in a professional register.

PUBLICATIONS:
Lists available on receipt of a stamped addressed envelope and 2IRC's.

RESEARCH:
Minimum non-member rate in £9.00 an hour ar £72.00 per day

Mrs. Eve McLaughlin

Dear Madam,

At a recent meeting of the above society, it was decided that our activity for the night would be a group discussion on members' experience on overseas research. After quite a few members spoke on different areas and different researchers, all of which were satisfactory, one member decided to tell us of a most unsatisfactory dealing he has had since writing to you and requesting your assistance.

You will no doubt remember his name, that being Mr. V. Plumeridge. Let me please run through the list of correspondence and phone calls that have passed between you both.

Early in June 1985 he wrote to the Buckinghamshire Parish Church requesting information on possible ancestors, his letter was forwarded to the  County Council, who in turn suggested contacting you as Secretary of the Buck. Family Society, he received this reply on 29th. June 1985. He wrote to you on the 7th August 1985 giving you a great deal of information as he knew it including, the names of two living relatives who could be contacted if necessary.

You replied very promptly requesting between £30 & £60, he sent £30 which was $63-43 Aust. He sent £30 and additional information, but nothing arrived. An the 25th February, 1986, nearly 6 months after sending the money, he again wrote to you asking why no reply, and waited once again to hear from you, same result, you again ignored his letter.

By this time he was beginning to think something was amiss, so after waiting another three months he decided to ring you, which he did in May 1986. You assured him you had sent the information you had collected, around Christmas 1985. But as this had not arrived you would send him copies of all the information.

Once again, he waited another three months and on the 4th August, 1986 he wrote to you telling you he was about to notify the Genealogical Society of Victoria, of his dealings with you. Quite surprisingly you replied to this letter within seven day of him posting it in Swan Hill, very prompt indeed.

In that letter you told him you once again sent him information ten days after the phone call in may, this did not arrive, this was the third letter you were supposed to send but did not arrive. Also in the letter he did receive, you came up with very strange excuses for the delays, such as the Plumridges attempting to populate the world by themselves, and that some documents you had collected were difficult to copy.

On 21st. September, 1986 Mr. Pumeridge again rang you and suggested that you send the information by registered or certified mail, which you agreed to do. Mr. Plumeridge recently contacted Australia Post for a search to be made for the missing mail and was assured by letter that it had not arrived in this country.

I personally cannot believe that the British Mail service could be so ineffective as to lose four letters out of six, and I have had a great deal of correspondence with people in Britain and have yet to find one go astray. Luckily Mr. Plumeridge had the good sense to keep copies of all the letters he sent to you, and has also kept the two you have written to him, sop everything in this letter is just plain fact.

Our society felt it was our responsibility to protect the interests of our members, and a select committee was formed to decide what action should be taken. It was decided that I should write to you, to tell you that unless the research Mr. Plumeridge has paid for, plus another £40 worth, or alternatively, a full refund of money already paid, plus the £40.00 spent in phone calls, be received by Mr. Plumeridge within 28 days of this letter being sent, the facts as presented will be published in our newsletter, which is sent to every Genealogical Society throughout Australia, thus reaching at least 25,000 registered genealogists.

It was suggested that several books written by you, be removed from our library, and those we have for sale be withdrawn, this already has been done.

Yours faithfully,

Kevin Van der Stoel, L.L.G.
Hon. Secretary.

N.B.  Mrs. McLauglin did reply and took two pages to say she used the money up tracing a person who she eventually discovered was the wrong one.

The entry to Gloucester

King William's grand procession enters Gloucester. Accompanied by a cavalry and foot soldiers the King rode through thenew North Gate and passed up Northgate-st. and turned into Ebrugge-st (Westgate-st) to the Abbey

KING WILLIAM, who announced his great survey in Gloucester, has dominated the politics of north west Europe for two decades.   He is a great leader, a man of action, and though he cannot read or write, has consistently outflanked his rivals to consolidate his power, first in Normandy, in England and as far afield as Sicily and the Balkans.   Sometimes he can be utterly ruthless and cruel .......we saw during the devastations of the north of England 15 years ago - yet he has been able to revolutionise England largely by consent through wise	William's rise to power		Wulfstan, here in Gloucester. William has also adopted the Saxon practice of the Witan or Great Council meeting three times a year with great pomp and ceremony at Gloucester (Christmas), Winchester (Easter), and Westminster (Whitsun). It is an impressive display, stressing his claim to be lawful successor to the Anglo Saxon kings. He has even tried to learn to speak English, although notwith much success. But it would be wrong to assume that the norman takeover has been all plain sailing. For years Gloucestershire and Somerset refused to acknowledge the new
appointments to top places in the church and bureacracy.   His life has been surrounded by murder, intrigue, and war but he has triumphed over them all and changed the course of history. Pilgrimage   William was born in 1027, the illegitimateson of the Norman Duke Robert "The Devil" and his mistress Arletta, a tanner's daughter. Robert became duke by murdering his brother but remorse for the deed sent him on a pilgrimage to the holy Land where he died.   Before leaving for Palestine, Robert induced most of his followers to recognise William as his heir. Some barons refused and for the first 12 years of the boy's rule Normandy was torn by civil war. But William silenced his turbulent barons and eventually led a united Normandy to victory over the French king, enhancing his reputation as a wise ruler and able general.   He turned his attention to England's wealth in 1051 when he made his famous visit to the court of his distant relative King Edward. "The Confessor" where  it is said he received a promise of the throne from the childless monarch.	Uproar   There was uprore among the English nobles, led by Earl Goodwin,  who objected strongly, saying the choice of king was a matter for the Witan or Parliament.   More scandal followed when William married his cousin Matilda in 1052, but his influence and power silenced the opposition. Matilda, who died two years ago, was very beautiful, and only 4ft. 2ins. tall, the smallest queen we have ever had. Brilliant   William took his chance to invade England after Harold was crowned king early in 1066. Harold had compromised himself by recognising William's claim two years earlier and, at the Battle of Hastings, Harold was defeated and killed.   William's political deftness was brilliantly illustrated by the arrangements for the Coronation  on Christmas Day. He was crowned by the Archbishop of Yorkm rather than Canterbury, to avoid giving offence to the Pope, and received the full backing of the Saxon Parliament	making him appear the elected representative of the English people. In another stunning public relations coup he adopted all the Conornation formalities of the Saxon kings.   Though he only had an army of 9,000 men against the English population of about 1,750,000, King William set about the confiscation of the land, firstly by largely killing the English ruling classes at he battles of Fulford and Stamford Bridge and second by a pretext of legality. He claimed possessions of anyone who had fought against him at Hastings saying Harold was a usurper. Replaced   So to date, the property of some 5,000 Anglo Saxon landowners has been distributed to 200 Normans. Within that number a dozen of William's relatives hold a quarter of the country's wealth. The same sort of thing has happened in the church. Pope Alexander 11 has sent legates to England who deposed Stigland and made Lanfranc, the Italian Archbishop of Canterbury. Every Abbot and Bishop has been replaced by a foreigner saveony for our own Bishop	Government; there has been open revolt in Dorset and Devonshire with the town of Exeter only taken after a desperate seige. In the West, Edric the Forester and his men attacked and slaughteres th garrison at Shrewsbury, while in the east Hereward resisted the Norman in the fens for five years. Cruelty Insurrection continues in the north. It has been countered by William in a dazzling display of diplomacy and cruelty. He split the opposition by paying off with gold a force of invading Danes leaving himself clear to force the retreat of a joint force of northerners under Edgar Atheling and Malcolm Cranmore, King of Scotland. To teach the wild northerners not to support any further insurrections, the King followed his victory with an unparallelled act of cold blooded vengeance. In a scorched earth campaign he put to fire and sword all the country from the Ouse to the Tyne. It is said that 100,000 people have been killed and today some 30 years later
			Yorkshire is largely a barren wasteland.   There will be little to record when the great survey reaches these parts of England.

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TRIVIA:

St. James Old Cathedral (The Pioneer Church), in Melbourne is open Wednesday to Friday, 10.00 am - 4.00pm. 
All marriages between 1834 - 1934 have been indexed and you can look at original certificates.

Melbourne General Cemetery opened Tuesday & Thursday only, between 9.00am - 11.00am for enquiries.

International Phone Book Library is at 190 Queen Street (Cnr. Little Bourke Street), Melbourne. Very helpful staff.
 
 

BACK TO WINNAMBOOL-GINGIMRICK. AUG.1986 Compiled by Committee Donated by Joan Vivian
MALLEE PIONEER. the recollections of James Barrett Mann, founder of Morningquest. published by .BR. MANN, 1981. Donated by Mrs. Mann
AND THEN THER WAS ONE, a brief history of Ultima & Districts Schools, by Eileen L Watson & Anthony I Scott, 1986
A NIEMANN FAMILY HISTORY, by Jessie L. Cafiso, author & compiler. Donated by Mrs. Bev. Roberts.
GREATER THAN GOLD, a history of agriculture in the Bendigo district from 1835 to 1885. By Colin Webb and John Quinlan.
SWAN HILL URBAN FIRE BRIGADE CENTENARY 1886-1986. Donated. Advertising brochure from Pauline J Myers, Genealogical ResearchLibrary & information Centre, Castlemaine.
OUR PIONEER FAMILY - DEVON TO AUSTRALIA - CLEMENTS, MARTIN & CHESTERMAN FAMILES. Compiled by June Proctor. Assisted by Gwenda martun. 1986.
FAMILY TREE MAGAZINE (British) Very interesting & informative. 6 copies donated by Mrs. E. McKenzie.
 
 

Research Directory

To: Hon. Secretary, S.H.G.H.S. P.O. Box 1232, SWAN HILL, Vic., 3585
I wish to renew my subscription to the Society in the membership category shown below and enclose my cheque/money order of the sum of  $       :      .

Every effort has been made to re-create the 
original  MALLEE ROOTS  Newsletter.

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