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Subject: [BURGENLAND-NEWSLETTER-L] BB News No. 114 dtd Jan. 31, 2003
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:23:13 EST

(Issued monthly by
January 31, 2003
(c) 2003 G. J. Berghold-all rights reserved)

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AT 114B-2 -Burgenland Immigrants Of  St. Paul, MN-Book Review-G. Berghold***

This first section of our 4-section newsletter includes:

1. Linking A Burgenland Descendant From "Down Under"-Bruce Klemens
2. Another Emigration Reason-Giles Gerken-Albert Schuch


(ED. Note: this series of correspondence all by itself justifies the 
existence of the Burgenland Bunch. Here we have a story that includes the 
village of Oslip before, during and after WWII. It tells the story of forced 
and voluntary emigration, includes part of the Holocaust, emigration to both 
Israel and Australia and finally a definite link to the past, connecting old 
Oslip residents and descendants with the present. I like to think many of our 
members are doing what Bruce Klemens has done, helping others link to their 
past, he's to be commended. )

Miriam Tier writes To: Bruce Klemens (Oak Ridge, NJ)
I am writing to you from Sydney, Australia. My mother ended up here in 1952, 
after leaving Austria in 1938. I was wondering when your family left Oslip, 
and whether or not you/they might have known my mother, or her family? 

 Her name then was Eleonora Luria, but she was known as Ella. Her mother was 
known as Mitzi (real name:  Miriam), and her father was Alexander Luria. They 
owned a General Store at No.11, Oslip. Alexander died before the war, my 
mother had to escape, and her mother died in Theresienstadt. Her mother's 
maiden name was Nussbaum.  Anyhow, if you or your family knew them, I would 
greatly appreciate hearing from you. 

TO: Miriam Tier (Australia) FROM: Bruce Klemens (Oak Ridge, NJ)

 Dear Miriam, I think we have hit the jackpot.  Below is a message my second 
cousin Anna Odorfer (who now lives in Eisenstadt, Burgenland) has just sent 
me.  It's incredible but she actually lived in the same house in Oslip that 
your parents lived in.  I scanned the picture of the house that Anna refers 
and included it in this email.

 Just to make things clear who is who:  The father of Anna and her sister 
Cilli was Stefan Robitza who died in World War II.  Their mother, Maria, is 
the daughter of Karl Klemenschitz (also spelled Klemensich).  Karl was the 
brother of my grandfather, Michael Klemenschitz.  Michael and several other 
siblings came to America in the decade before World War I.  Karl stayed in 
Burgenland.  Anna now lives in Eisenstadt.

 Let me if there is anything else you would like to know.  I'd be happy to 
help you in any way I can.  The internet is certainly amazing in making this 
information available.  Australia-America-Burgenland-America-Australia all in 
four days!

From: Anna Odorfer (Eisenstadt, Burgenland)
To: Bruce Klemens (Oak Ridge, NJ)
forwarded to: miriam tier (australia)

 Dear Bruce, I can't tell you how surprised I was reading your email! I had 
to sit down! The email from Miriam Tier, Australia, touched me. As you know, 
my mother married and moved into the Robicza-house in 1939.  My parents 
worked and lived with my grandma.  That's the way it used to be at that time. 
In 1941,
my father was killed in the war.  I was 17 months old, my sister Cilli 2 
months.  And then the problem started.  My mother and my grandmother started 
arguing for some kind of reason I really never understood.  The situation was 
so bad that mother had to leave the house.  There was only one empty house in 
Oslip and we moved in. It was the Luria house, number 11!!!   We had only one 
room and a small kitchen.  Behind us another widow lived also with two 
children in the same house.  My mother worked at her parents' and we kids 
were there the whole day.  We went home only for the nights.

 Many, many times I asked my mother to whom this house belongs and where the 
people were????  I always got the same answer: "I don't know it - and nobody 
else does. Maybe they are in Palestine or somewhere else.  I just hope they 
are out of danger because they had to flee."

 The name Luria and their general store was talked about a lot after the war 
for a long time.  I remember that.  My mother knew the family and all the old 
people did so, too, but slowly, all of them died.  My mother also remembers 
that Alexander Luria died before the war and he is buried at the Jewish 
cemetery in Eisenstadt.

 Early in the fifties (either 1953 or 1954), the Luria house was sold, but 
nobody knows who sold it.  The neighbor Severin Schumich bought it.  He 
pulled down the Luria house and their own and built a new one.  Now his son 
lives in it with his family.

 Please take the Oslip book and turn to page 107.  You will see a photo with 
oxen and the Schumich family members. The one in the middle is Severin.  The 
house on the left belongs to the Schumich family and the house on the right 
is the LURIA house.  You can even recognize the house number!

FROM: Miriam Tier TO: Bruce  Klemens

 Please excuse my delay in replying, but things have been ridiculously hectic 
this week. And this is the first chance I have had to sit down at the 

 I cannot thank you enough for your amazing email!  I too had to sit down to 
read it.  I showed it to my mother the same day, and she was overwhelmed.

 She recognized Anton and Severin, and I think most of the others in the 
photo.  The whole situation with her is very difficult, as she hates to 
recall the period from 1938, and refuses to revisit Austria.

 However, she did return with my soon-to-be father in 1951, on their way to 
Australia.  She was able to sell the house then to the next-door neighbour, 
Severin.  Anna is quite correct, Alexander was buried in Eisenstadt, and so 
was his younger daughter, Freda, who died a year before he did.

It is beyond belief to me that one email to a stranger (you) has resulted in 
this link to my mother's past so swiftly.  Thank you very, very much.  I hope 
to one day travel to Oslip and see the village for myself.   There may be 
further questions, but right now I can't think of them.  Thank you for your 
offer to provide further information. Miriam

 FROM: Miriam Tier TO: Bruce Klemens 

 My mother too wishes to thank you for all your help and information.  She 
would love to see any photos of Oslip which you could scan. In answer to your 
questions (my mother is sitting beside me now)-

 Alexander Luria came to Oslip in 1910. At first he rented a shop belonging 
to the Stefanic family.  He moved out and rented a house belonging to a woman 
whose husband was in America (a very beautiful woman), but Mum can't remember 
her name.  Later he bought this house, which was No 11.  He married
in approximately 1912, and the family lived in the same house until 1938.

 My mother went to Czechoslovakia in 1938, and from there traveled to 
Bratislava, to board one of the "illegal transport" ships to Palestine.  The 
ship was turned back by the British, but eventually my mother arrived in 
Palestine, at the city of Haifa, on the 6th of July 1939.  She met my father 
Azriel Petrover there; they married in 1943, and lived in Haifa until 1951. 
They decided to emigrate to Sydney, Australia, and arrived here on the 5th 
January, 1952. I am an only child.

 The exact reason for coming here is that my father always wanted to travel, 
and he had a cousin living here who wrote to him, telling him of the land of 
opportunity that was Australia.  My parents never regretted the decision to 
live here in Sydney.  Unfortunately, my father died in January 1993.  He was 
born in Rachov, Czechoslovakia, and had emigrated to Palestine in 1937. Both 
my parents speak/spoke 6 languages.
My mother doesn't remember Karl Klemenschitz specifically, but wonders if he 
was the baker?
She is trying to hard to remember, and if she remembers any further details, 
we will send them on to you.
Thank you again, and very best wishes,

FROM: Bruce Klemens  TO: Miriam Tier

 I attached a LOT of photos.  I hope your email can handle it.  If not please 
let me know and I'll send them in several separate emails.  I included one of 
my great-uncle Karl Klemenschitz (also spelled Klemensich).  I do not believe 
he was ever a baker, but I could be wrong.  I'd be curious if your mother reco
gnizes any of these people.  I'm sure you're aware that the people in Oslip 
are mostly of Croatian descent; hence you'll find some of the captions of the 
photos I scanned are in Croatian, not German.
Klemenschitz is a Croatian name, originally Klemensic.  We think they came to 
Oslip in 1533 as a result of the Turkish invasion of Croatia. Best regards, 
Bruce Klemens


I'm sorry this e-mail is coming so late, but I was trying to get some more 
information about the Luria family.  The people of my mother's age all 
remember them - and even the younger ones heard stories - especially Ella and 
Frieda and their mother.  They say both girls were very beautiful 
(bildhübsche mädchen) and their mother was a very dear lady.  Frieda died of 
diphtheria and that was a tragedy.  She too is buried in Eisenstadt.  Every 
one is glad that Ella lives in Australia - they can hardly believe it.  The
Jewish cemetery is under "denkmalschutz". (Editor's note: a protected 
memorial)  Tell Miriam if she ever comes to Oslip / Eisenstadt I would be 
happy to help if desired.  Ella wouldn't believe how Oslip has changed!!! 
It's a very nice, lovely place!

 Miriam's mother is right.  The baker's name was also Klemenschitz, but has 
nothing to do with my grandfather.  My grandfather was the baker's second 
neighbor.  And the bakery was inherited by Mr. Klemenschitz's daughter whose 
married name is Bauer.  Her eldest son is still running the bakery - a very
good business.

 I thought Miriam's mother would like these pictures if you can scan them. On 
page 28 - the Hauptstraße. page 39 (photo) shows on the right (part of the 
higher building) the parish house and on the left the Schey house. It was 
also a Jewish house. (Luria and Schey were the only Jewish families in Oslip. 
 I think they had also a store.)  In front of the left side there is the 

 On page 250 (left) she can also see the Schey house much better.  And very 
interesting might be the picture on page 115 below, because it's the 
neighborhood of the Luria family. On the right there is the Welkowitsch house 
and on the left there is the Schumich house / "Mikulini."  (There are so many 
Schumich families in Oslip but each house has got a nickname).

 In the front there is the statue of St. Anthony and behind there is the 
Stefanic - wirtshaus (tavern) which cannot be seen. Maybe Ella would also 
remember their other neighbor.  That was the Leudavich house (Klapac).   The 
house was sold after the old couple had died.  Their only son was killed in 
the war.

 The baroque-house on page 116 belonged to the Dunkl family and is across the 
street of the Luria's. The photos on page 117 and 118 are also interesting. 
She might remember. Anna

Giles writes: I found a recent newsletter very interesting.  The one showing 
3000 people leaving Moson County Hungary between 1875-1885.  Seems like a 
large number for just one county.  I  suppose living  conditions were harsh.  
But I would like to add a reason given by my ancestors.
Grandfather was bitter because he hadn't been given his inheritance-we never 
could figure out what he was talking about until  in a letter from Felix Game 
I learned that at that time & location the youngest son
inherited. (that was Grandfather)  However it was subject to approval of 
ruling Archduke (Albrecht in this case- 1817-1895) and apparently he didnt 
give approval.  In 1875  approval for grandparents to marry was
also denied- My aunt was born 30 March 1875- Illegit.  They left 2 months 
later in May & were married upon arrival.    Eight siblngs of grandfather all 
were gone from there by end of 19th century.  Bishop's office in Gyor told me 
in 1973 visit that they had checked with oldest person in Mosonszolnok (85 
yrs old then) and he had never heard of the name Regl.  So as Bishop stated 
"either they all left or they are all dead".  I never have located any of 
them.  History that I have read doesnt look very kindly on the above 
mentioned Archduke. "A Habsburg Tragedy" by Judith Listowel (about Rudolph) 
and "The Reluctant Empress" by Brigitte Hamann .  Other sources describe him 
as an austere Military figure.  I wonder how many other Emigrees were 
similarly affected .  My search of military records not successful so far.  I 
found only one possible- a Johann  Ro"gl at Maria Theresa Military acadamy at 
Wiener Neustadt- but unable to even determine date.  the entire file appears 
to have been made about 1880.  He was shown as a "Ritter.        Long time BB 
member   Giles Gerken    

Albert Schuch replies: 
I wonder if you are referring to the article "Why did they want to emigrate?" 
on Felix Game's website
( If so, you should be 
aware that this information is relevant (only) for the emigration from 
Germany to Hungary in the 17th and 18th century.

The situation in the Hungary of the 1870ies probably was a bit different. I 
don't think that the estate owners (i.e. the Archduke in Ungarisch-Altenburg 
/ Magyar-Ovar) did interfere in personal affairs that much. As for 
inheritance of the youngest son, this was common in certain areas. But in 
general, it was the exception of the rule. I don't know about the situation 
in the Ungarisch-Altenburg region. Let me also mention that those who did not 
inherit the family farm (or house) were entitled to receive a certain amount 
of money (from the heir). At the time of the Hungarian US-emigration, money 
was scarce, so many people will have waited a long time - if they ever 
received their share. So it is also possible that your grandfather was 
talking about money. 

Newsletter continues as 114A.

Subject: [BURGENLAND-NEWSLETTER-L] BB News No. 114A dtd Jan. 31, 2003
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:24:01 EST

(Issued monthly by
January 31, 2003
(c) 2003 G. J. Berghold-all rights reserved


This second section of our 4-section newsletter contains:

1. Biking The Burgenland-Tom Webb
2. Midwest BB Picnic 2003-Susan Peters
3. Batthyany Query


In the fall of 2002 I did a self-guided, unsupported bicycle trip through the 
length of the Burgenland. My wife Grace's German-speaking family originally 
migrated from southern Burgenland to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, before and 
after Word War I. I had toured nearly every other region of Austria by 
bicycle, but I was anxious to visit the area her father, Frank Malits, and 
probably her maternal grandparents had lived in. 

We never confirmed exactly where the latter, Anna and Andrew Kobca, migrated 
from. According to family memories, German-speaking Andrew Kobca (originally  
Kobza) was born in Hungary and Anna Mausser in Austria (or at least in the 
areas that came within the new boundaries of these two countries after WW I). 
They met in Austria, migrated to Pittsburgh around 1907-8 and were married in 

My first visit to Austria was in the spring of 1999, when Grace and I did a 
cycling vacation, hopping around here and there by train, but never getting 
to the Burgenland. (She had visited her father's brother, Adolf Malits, in 
Reinersdorf many years ago.) On this trip I fell in love with the country, 
and I decided to do some writing about touring Austria by bike.

I first touched down in the Burgenland on a fall, 1999 research trip. I had 
flown into Vienna. I then followed the Danube bikeway (the less famous 
portion of it) east from Vienna to Hainburg. The bikeway, after leaving 
Vienna, follows the north bank of the river through a national park and 
wetlands preserve. It's signed as the Donauradwanderweg.

Across from Bad Deutsch Altenburg and Hainburg, a cyclist must cross  to the 
south bank of the Danube on the bridge there. You can then continue east past 
Hainburg to Bratislava, Slovakia. Or you can go through Bad Deutsch 
Altenburg, taking the back road southwest toward Petronell- Carnuntum to 
visit several Roman ruins. Taking the continuation of the Danube bikeway from 
Bad Deutsch Altenburg, you can then zigzag southward and enter north 
Burgenland at Deutsch- Haslau and Potzneusiedl. 

On my 1999 excursion I went through (actually past) the town of Neusiedl in 
the Burgenland and followed the eastern bank of the Neusiedlersee or Lake 
Neusiedl. This Neusiedler See Radwanderweg takes a cyclist through resort 
towns and the national park that preserves much of the marshland around this 
unique shallow, brackish body of water. From the wine town of Illmitz I took 
a ferry across the lake, visited Mörbisch and Rust, and then biked across the 
border into Hungary to see Sopron.

After a night in interesting Sopron, I rode back into Austria, going westward 
through hills to the bustling little town of Mattersburg and then northwest 
to leave the Burgenland at Wiener Neustadt, a convenient rail center. I 
included most of this trip (Vienna-Neusiedlersee-Sopron) in my 2000 guidebook 
on cycling in Austria and neighboring areas.

My 2002 trip was however for pleasure, not research. I flew into Vienna 
airport again, but since I was definitely Burgenland-bound this time I made 
reservations with a Pension in Bad Deutsch Altenburg to the east. Their 
airport van picked up me and my bicycle at the airport. (Even with the cost 
of the van transport, room rates are so much lower than in Vienna that this 
is a more economical way to travel. The Danube towns east of Vienna are also 
served by the S7 commuter rail line that connects them to the airport in 
about a half-hour and to Vienna in about an hour, so
you can stay in the suburbs and see Vienna on day trips.) 

Landing the last week of September I was greeted by some rainy, windy days -- 
not ideal for cycling! But I took off, making the mistake of following a 
boring bikeway/farm road in bad shape south out of Petronell-Carnuntum. 
(Better to take the Danube bikeway from Bad Deutsch Altenburg, as I had done 
on my first trip.) I made my way to Neusiedl, but this time I took the newly 
designated R1 bikeway that passes just outside Neusiedl, and followed it 
generally west, then southwest and south through the Burgenland. In nasty 
weather I did a short day and stayed
that first night in Jois. Then heading toward Eisenstadt (with a 
not-very-bike-friendly downtown) I went on to Mattersburg and stayed in the 
same hotel where I had stayed in 1999. The bike route after Neusiedl is very 
pretty, passing through pleasant countryside, past vineyards adorned with 
roses at the ends of the rows, and through nice small towns and villages.

Just after Marz outside of Mattersburg, though, the R1 bikeway joins a fast 
highway and then climbs a major hill. This is not Alpine country, but this 
segment involved 10% grades on a winding, limited-sight highway with fast 
traffic and no shoulder. Demanding, nerve-racking stretch. After finally 
cresting, there was a long, welcome downhill on a less busy highway. Then the 
route followed more pleasant dedicated bike paths and back roads for a while. 
Near Stoob the bikeway disappeared twice, a victim of local flooding last 
summer and a construction project,
forcing me to feel my way around on the highway to pick up the continuation 
on to Oberpullendorf, where I stayed the night. 

The weather was improving greatly by the next day. Outside of Dörfl I missed 
a sign for the usually well-marked R1 bike route and began following a 
different bikeway, the B45/R55. After realizing my error and finding my 
location on the map, I decided to continue rather than backtrack since the 
route I was on rejoined the R1 further south. This was a fortunate detour, 
because at Lockenhaus I came upon a magnificent scene: a striking sunlit 
Schloss (castle or
palace) on a hilltop overlooking a lovely lake and public park. Very 
beautiful, and I would have missed it if I hadn't lost the R1 route for a 

You occasionally see signs in this area in both German and Hungarian, a 
reminder of the dual heritage of the region. 

I faced a long, tough climb before Unterkohlstätten, then things leveled off 
before a moderate climb into Grosspetersdorf on a Sunday afternoon. I had 
hoped to spend that night there, but the only two Gasthof establishments in 
town were both closed for their Ruhetag (day off)! At nearly 5 o'clock with 
failing daylight, I decided to gamble on a Gasthof I had seen a sign for, on 
a by- road a couple of kilometers back down the hill. Entering a village, I 
saw no further signs, so I stopped at a Gasthaus to inquire. I was assured 
the Gasthof was just down the road a ways. 

So I continued (with two more tough uphills). A local resident passing in his 
truck must have thought it unusual to see an old guy from another world 
riding this road on a bike near twilight, so he stopped to ask me where I was 
going. I explained to this very friendly fellow that I was looking for a 
Gasthof. Did he know about it? Was it open? He assured me that it was open 
and just up the road a ways. So I plodded on and finally entered the village 
of Podler. On a bench beside the road sat my friend, grinning at me, and 
pointing up the street. A little further I came to the fabled Gasthof. It was 
beautiful, and open, and its two guest rooms were both vacant. Later when I 
was eating dinner the fellow I had met on the road came in for a beer; it 
turns out that this was a lively gathering place for the residents of this 
tiny village.

The next day I was approaching Strem and Güssing, in the area my wife's 
father was from. It was a day of much flatter riding terrain, in beautiful 
weather. I was behind schedule due to the initial bad weather, so I resisted 
the temptation to make a short side trip into Hungary. Soon I was beside a 
sign announcing that Strem was just ahead. On the edge of the village I 
passed a cemetery just off the road. I was curious, but there was a funeral 
in progress and I didn't want to disturb it, so I went on, through a couple 
of small villages, and into the larger town of Güssing.
>From around Strem onward, I could see on the horizon what I soon realized was 
the Burg of Güssing, the castle on a hilltop above the city. It was very 
impressive, and I kept stopping to take photos as it loomed larger and larger 
and was finally above me as I entered town.

Güssing is a bustling center of local commerce with a long downtown strip. A 
town as lively and busy as this must have places to stay. But where were 
they? I couldn't find any indication of where I might find a room. There was 
no tourist information office open. There were no signs or ads posted. Now 
what do I do? 

After pedaling back and forth through the main street a few times, I decided 
my only hope was the police department. (Not for a jail cell overnight, but 
for some information!) So I rang at the locked door of the Gendarmerie. 
Finally someone came, and I explained that I was looking for aroom, with no 
success. The officer who answered the door motioned for me to go through a 
passage and through another door, which had a strange security device I 
barely succeeded in figuring out. I then was at a counter in the station with 
two men in their 50's in plain clothes. 

They confirmed that I was on a bike, since they must have been thinking first 
about places located on some lofty hilltop. These fellows who no doubt were 
Güssing natives with years on the Güssing police force, and who must have 
known every inch of their territory, started scratching their heads and 
looking puzzled, leafing through directories and old brochures. They made a 
few calls, some to fax machines, apparently getting nowhere. I had to 
restrain myself from chuckling at their frustrated attempts, but I also felt 
my hopes dwindling. Finally they made
a call that got results. A Gasthof beyond where I had looked was closed 
(their Ruhetag, again), and the adults who ran it were not home, but their 
teenage son had answered the phone. He must have been sufficiently 
intimidated by a call from the police that he said he would give me a room! 

I decided to spend two nights in Güssing, so that I could make a day trip 
back to Strem, and so I could visit the Burg above Güssing. The weather 
continued beautiful.

Back at the cemetery in Strem the next day, I started systematically walking 
through the rows of tombstones, not really knowing what I was looking for. 
Finally I found a huge gravestone, obviously fairly new and with gilt 
lettering, with an inscription I recognized: "Ing. Adolf 
Malits/Baumeister/1910-1999". It was my wife Grace's uncle, her father's 
brother, who we had heard was an architect of some sort. He was described in 
this epitaph as an engineer and master builder. He was buried here with his 
wife Josefa, who had died in 1993. These were the people that Grace, and her 
sister in a separate trip, had met when they visited here in the 1950's. I 
learned from the cemetery manager, whom I met as I left, that Adolf had lived 
in Reinersdorf, a few kilometers away, where his brother Frank was born.

That afternoon I hiked up the hill to the ruins of the Burg (castle or 
fortress) of Güssing. The main part of the castle has been restored and 
converted to a museum featuring a wide variety of collections, most of them 
unrelated to the castle, but interesting. Beautiful views of the surrounding 
countryside from the castle walls.

Next morning I biked out of town, continuing with the R1 bikeway which had so 
conveniently brought me through Strem and Güssing. The R1 follows a small 
highway for a while, then leaves it past Heiligenkreuz. Some confusing detour 
signs on the bikeway route threw me off the track for a while, but I soon 
found my way back to the R1. No more hills after Heiligenkreuz!

I went on to Jennersdorf, where I took a  train out of the Burgenland and on 
to Graz and beyond for the remainder of my bike trip. This would lead me by 
bike through the beautiful Drau River valley in the Dolomite Alps and later 
by train back to the Danube area, whence my bike and I would fly back home 
from the Vienna airport in mid-October.

Tom Webb
Seattle, December, 2002

2. MIDWEST BB PICNIC 2003  (From: (Peters, Susan M)

The reservation has been made for the 2003 Midwest Burgenland Bunch Picnic. 
The date is Saturday, 2 August.  The time is 10:30 - 4:00.  Mark your 
calendars!  We have a change in location this year.  It is as equally hard to 
find as Wabun Park in Minneapolis where the previous picnics have been held, 
but the facility is much nicer with a large pavilion with 2 fireplaces and 
right on a lake.  The park name is Trapp Farm Park and it is located in 
Eagan, Minnesota.  Hope to see you there!

Please view these websites:

3. BATTHYANY QUERY-From: (d bastianello)   

(ED. Note: We tend to think that the aristocratic families have little 
trouble tracing their roots, but her is one that might be from the Herrschaft 
of southern Borderland. I forwarded this request to our Batthyany researcher 
Bob Bathiany-e:mail; Bobolds for a reply.)
*Dominique Bastianello - Battyani writes:
My mother's name was Jacqueline BATTYANI. Her father was Lajos BATTYANI and 
he was born in Pecs on April 4  , 1899. He died in Algeria (Sidi Bel Abbès) 
in 1949.

My grand father did studied dentistry and he had to leave Hungary around 
1917, 1920 because of political events.
He married a french woman (Emma Teresita BOCCONE - of Italian origins). My 
grand father's parents were Andras BATTYANI married to Josephine FISPAP. I 
don't know were they were born or the year of their birth.
I should like to have some information about them. My information stops tat 
their generation.

*Bob writes: I have searched hundred of pages in my collection, but did not 
find anything on your family. My data goes back many years. I can trace my 
family back yo the 16th century. There is a French Batthyany family, who I 
have corresponded with on several occasions. They can trace their family to 
Edourd Batthyany who came to Alsace a Requistem in the early1800's. There are 
no links to your family.

There was a Casimir Batthyany who was transferred from Turkey to Paris in 
1850 by the United States Navy in 1850. He died in 1854. I know of no 

A Vinczet Batthyany, born in 1772, was Austria's Ambassor to France in 1850. 
I do not know of his children. 

There was a Batthyany family that came to northern Italy in the 16th century. 
I have the church records of this family. There are no links to your family. 
I will keep the information and if I find anything I will contact you.

Newsletter continues as no. 114B.

Subject: [BURGENLAND-NEWSLETTER-L] BB News No. 114B dtd Jan. 31, 2003
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:25:04 EST

(Issued monthly by
January  31, 2003
(c) 2003 G. J. Berghold-all rights reserved

This third section of our 4- section newsletter contains:

1. Some Neuhaus am Klausenbach Families-Ernest Chrisbacher
2. Burgenland Immigrants Of  St. Paul, MN-Book Review-G. Berghold
3. Julius Meinl Coffee House-Chicago
4. First Immigrants Continued-BG 
5. Taste Of The Burgenland-Bean (Böhnen) Strudel-BG & Bob Strauch
6. Hungarian Philharmonic USA Tour-Joe Jarfas, Margaret Kaiser
7. Culinaria Mailing List-Bob Strauch
8. Taste Of The Borderland-Raised Strudel Source?


Ernest writes: While researching my Griesbacher family in the film of 
Dobra,Vas (No.  0700745) I came across the baptism of Joannes Berghold, 1 
Feb. 1829,  parents Joannes Berghold and Maria Lang. The couple had at least 
8 more  children including 2 sets of twins in the period after 1829, but I 
did  not take any other notes.

Interestingly, Dobra, now Neuhaus am Klausenbach, contained at that time many 
names which I find in the villages of Veszprem County where my  ancestors 
lived; supporting my finding based on research, that the Bakony Forest was 
colonized during the  18th century, to a great extent, by Germans who came 
from western  Hungary, Styria and Lower Austria. For example: Koller, Unger, 
Strauss,  Reindl, Vagner, Kornheisl, Rehling, Vohlfart, Veber, Lang, Volf,  
Prunner, Mautner, Pfister, Vuerzburger, Veidinger, Vindisch, Poltzer,  
Steinhofer, Piltz, Steinbock, Klettner, Bonstingl, Schandl, and many  others 
that can be found in Burgenland and Austria. 

Gerry Berghold replies: These Bergholds resided in Mühlgraben and their 
Lutheran Church was in Dobra. I've not been able to link to this branch 
although I'm fairly certain they were cousins to the Bergholds of 
Heiligenkreuz. What is interesting is that this area of southern Borderland, 
situated right next to the Styrian border, probably received some of the 
first Styrian Lutheran immigrants when Styria reverted to Catholicism in the 
1600's. Mühlgraben, now the smallest village (500 pop.) in southern 
Burgenland is also the most southern Lutheran parish. I found Berghold graves 
but no families by that name extant. As this region filled up with Protestant 
(or later colonists) they would of course have drifted further east. 

2. BURGENLAND IMMIGRANTS TO ST. PAUL, MN- (a book review by Gerry Berghold)

There were at least three main periods of Burgenland emigration to the 
Americas. The first, beginning about 1880, was from northern Burgenland, from 
the region around the Neusiedler See or Seewinkel , what is today the 
district of Neusiedl am See. The destination for most of this group was the 
mid-west in the area of Minnesota and Wisconsin. There was then subsequent 
movement from there to the Dakotas and further west (some of this has been 
addressed by BB editor Dale Knebel-see previous BB newsletters nos. 13 & 36, 
among others). As with all Burgenland emigration, very little else has been 
written or published in English. I am very pleased to report that a new book 
on the subject is now available.

PGB-Park Genealogical Books of Roseville, Minnesota recently sent me a copy 
of "Church of St. Agnes, St. Paul, Minnesota: Ethnic Origins in Marriage 
Records, 1887-1897"- introduction and transcription by Linda Therkelsen.  The 
book is a 48 page, 8-1/2 x 11 inch soft cover edition, with 5 illustrations 
and 3 maps. ISBN 0-915709-97-x, 2002.

The Catholic parish of St. Agnes in St. Paul was formed in 1887 and became 
the home church for German speaking area immigrants, half of which were from 
Bohemia (Czech Republic). The next largest group was from the Neusiedl 
district  of Austria's  Province of Burgenland   (Hungary pre1921). Other 
German nation States were also represented.  Father James Trobec, first 
pastor and later Bishop, was unique in that when he recorded marriages, he 
also recorded places of origin. These marriage records have now been 
transcribed and provide the contents of the above book. 

While many marriages involve immigrants from Bohemia, there are 41 from the 
Burgenland as well as some from nearby Hungarian and Austrian villages. The 
records include date of marriage,  names of the groom and spouse, ages, where 
born (villages of origin) and parents' names. Statistical summaries, area 
maps, village lists, a locality index and a bride and groom index are 
included. Twenty villages in the district of Neusiedl are represented. Both 
Catholic and Lutheran immigrants will be found among the bridal pairs with 
any dispensation noted.

The transcriber has corrected the spelling of  village and family names from 
what in some cases were obviously phonetic spellings in the records. 
Locations of villages are shown on area maps. Ms. Therkelsen has done a very 
commendable job of transcription and editing. If your ancestors were among 
this first Burgenland migration, by all means get a copy of this booklet. It 
is a worthy addition to Burgenland family history. If you also happen to have 
some Bohemian ancestors, you'll be doubly fortunate. Available for $13.00, 
plus $4.00 shipping (first volume, .75 each additional) from Park 
Genealogical Books, P O Box 130968, Roseville, MN 55113-0968. On the net, email: Phone 651/488-4416. Order # 
M-484. Other area genealogical publications are also available.

 "Church of St. Agnes, St. Paul, Minnesota: Ethnic Origins in Marriage 
Records, 1887-1897"may also provide clues for other family history records 
pertaining to Burgenland immigrants in the St. Paul area. I am very pleased 
to be able to add this book to my Borderland library.


(ED. Note: What is more Austrian than a coffee house? While those in the 
Burgenland aren't as prestigious and opulent as the ones in Vienna or Graz, 
you can still find lots of "café sitzen" for coffee and pastry or a light 
meal. These places entice you for a mid-morning, afternoon or evening snack. 
I wish we had more of them in the US. We send McDonalds's to Austria and 
Vienna sends a world famous coffee house to Chicago. Maybe someday, I'll see 
one in Winchester.) Tom Glatz writes:

* I first found out about this from the Consul, Elisabeth Kehrer. Julius 
Meinl, the famous coffee house in Vienna, has now opened a shop in Chicago. I 
tried to access the original article from the Chicago Sun Times without luck. 

I hope to visit this place soon.

* Albert Schuch follows with:  I found this article (fragment shown) about 
Vienna's Julius Meinl opening a café in Chicago. I forwarded it to my sister 
Inge back in August 2002 but seem to have forgotten to send it to you also.
At you can find a few newer articles 
(see "press releases" section).



The team bringing Vienna's venerable Julius Meinl to the United States is 
putting a 140-year-old brand name squarely on the line but taking few 

When coffee roaster and retailer Meinl opens its first stateside location -- 
and its first outside Europe -- next month, the brew and the coffeehouse 
atmosphere are meant to be virtual duplicates of their Viennese counterparts. 
To accomplish that feat, Meinl has had the interior prebuilt in Austria and 
shipped to Chicago. A pair of packaging technologies safeguards the 
beans....Thomas Meinl, along with his brother Julius IV, represents the 
of five generations of Meinls in the family business. 

(c) 1997-2002, Inc. All rights reserved.

4. FIRST IMMIGRANTS TO AMERICA (suggested by BG Newsletter, Nov.-Dec. 2002)

Previous issues of the BB News have reported data concerning this subject as 
first developed by Dr. Walter Dujmovits, editor of the BG News ( series 
starts at no. 93A). We asked BB members to forward any data they had and we 
heard from very few. We are now at the year 1890 and the BG reports the 
following (year, village, family name-birth year-and place settled):

1890 (91?)-Rosenberg (Güssing)-Pöltl (Poeltl)-unknown, but probably 
Allentown, PA*
                 -Guttenbach-Franz Novakovits-Pittsburgh

1891-Rohrbach (Mattersberg)-Josef Berger-unknown
        -Miedlingsdorf-Paul Eichlberger-unknown
        -Zahling-Josef Reichl (1871)-Allentown

1892-Deutsch Tschantschendorf-unknown
Note: US 1910 Census for Lehigh County, PA lists Charles Poeltl,, b 1880 to 
US  in 1905, and father Joseph, b 1846 to US  in 1904, residents of 
Allentown. Both of these men were born in Rosenberg. They are cousins of my 
g-grandmother Johanna Poeltl (Pöltl) Mühl, born in Rosenberg, b 1845, also to 
US in 1905. No previous immigrant by this name has been found.

If you can add to the above. Please do so by email to 
Please cite the source of your data.


(ED. Note:- I've eaten a lot of strudel in my time, but I have not had bean. 
This is another of those "kitchen food" recipes developed by our ethnic 
ancestors, which allowed them to add variety to their simple food supply. 
Strudel is soul food for anyone brought up in the Burgenland tradition.  I 
love beans and so I think I'd like this strudel.  I must convince my wife to 
make it. She bulks at making the dough but refuses to use the commercial 
leaves (they are often too dry). This recipe is from "The Cooking Of 
Burgenland" by Chef Alois Schmidt as translated by Bob Strauch and published 
in the most recent BG News. The use of farina is an old cook's trick to bulk 
and hold a mixture together. I've read of it being used as a secret 
ingredient  in crème cake filling. If you try this strudel, please let us 
know how you like it.)

1 1/2 lbs dried white beans - 1/2 cup farina (Cream of Wheat)
1/2 lb. Onions chopped - 1/2 lb. Bacon chopped
3 tbsp. Fat - 1 Roll diced small (or equivalent in bread crumbs)
1 1/2 tsp. Salt - 3/4 tbsp. Black pepper
1 tbsp. Marjoram - 1/2 cup sour cream-water
Stretch Strudel dough or packaged phyllo pastry leaves (see previous strudel 
recipes  to make dough)

Soak beans overnight. Cook in salted water until tender; drain. Season with 
marjoram, pepper and salt. Sauté farina in  fat until lightly golden. Stir in 
enough water to give the mixture a medium thick consistency. Fry the bacon, 
onions and Roll dice together. In a bowl mix beans, onions, bacon, roll and 
farina well. Spread this filling on strudel dough, roll up and transfer to 
greased baking sheet. Brush the strudel with melted butter or beaten egg. 
Bake in preheated medium oven about 40 minutes. Serve hot or cold, garnished 
with sour cream.

6. HUNGARIAN PHILHARMONIC USA TOUR (from Joe Jarfas & Margaret Kaiser)

Margaret writes: I am forwarding Joe Jarfas' posting of a Washington Post 
article concerning the Hungarian Philharmonic's extensive USA tour.  You'll 
find another URL for the Philharmonic itself at the end of the Post article.  
This site is rather elaborate.  After the musical introduction, you can 
choose English to read about the Philharmonic's tour and its planned 

Forwarded Message: 
Hi all, article in the Washington post about the Hungarian Philharmonic - if 
anybody is interested:

I received from the communication director of the Hungarian  Philharmonic a 
detailed 12 page Word document which lists the total  tour. I don't have 
access to a web site, so can somebody volunteer with  one? (To those who sent 
me inquiries privately I will forward it soon.) He also stated it will be on 
their web site  in a day or two.


Bob writes: Thought this might be of interest to you - a mailing list that I 
just joined.

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Hungarian Cuisine, History, Gastronomy, Legend, Memories, Recipes and Lore
Everyone can name the most famous Hungarian dishes, the "goulash"and the 
'paprikash." However, few are aware of the long gastronomic history of 
Hungary, that can be traced back to the ancient nomadic Magyar tribes
before they settled In the Carinthian basin between 892-896. Our oldest 
cooking utensil, the bogrács, or cauldron, originates from this time. A 
necessity for the nomads, a good bogrács, is say an asset today, when one 
sets out to cook an authentic gulyás,tokány or fish soup on an open fire. Our 
wandering ancestors ingeniously adapted their diet to their lifestyle. (ED. 
Note-article goes on to develop Hungarian cuisine. We've not continued it in 
the interests of copyright. See website address for continuation.)


Query: I saw your newsletter online and thought perhaps you'd be the person 
to point me in the right direction. I'm a third generation Burgenlander (born 
in Canada), dad fell off the boat some 35 yrs ago.  Any way, ever Christmas 
we have stuck with tradition and have breaded fish, potato salad and finish 
it off with Poppy and Walnut strudel. My problem or rather our problem is 
that this stuff is getting harder to find.  Every time we think we've found a 
bakery that makes it (Hungarian style) its either not "right" or they've 
discontinued because there's no market. Have you found in your communication 
with others a place in Canada where I can buy or order these strudels?  It 
just wouldn't be Christmas without them.

Answer: Raised strudel is very moist and doesn't travel too well, so not many 
large bakeries offer it. You can generally find it in ethnic Austrian or 
Hungarian localities but they rarely ship or mail. For instance the Egypt 
Star Bakery in Allentown, PA (Whitehall) makes good raised strudel but 
doesn't mail. That leaves making your own a good alternative. In this day and 
age, not all that difficult particularly if you have a bread machine 
(available for under $100). I published a recipe in newsletter no. 83. A 
recipe for poppy seed filling (your own) is also available at newsletter no. 
85B, but Solo Brand fillings are easier to use. You can search our archives 
from our homepage if you want to see some other Burgenland food specialties. 

Newsletter continues as no. 114C

Subject: [BURGENLAND-NEWSLETTER-L] BB News No. 114C dtd Jan. 31, 2003
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:25:43 EST

(Issued monthly by
January 31, 2003
(c) 2003 G. J. Berghold-all rights reserved


This fourth section of our 4-section newsletter contains:

1. Status of Szt. Peterfa & St. Kathrein Record Update-Frank Teklits
2. Immigrant Obit-Catasauqua, PA-Bob Strauch
3. Burgenland In Former Days (Part 6, continued from 111)-Gerhard Lang
4. Burgenland Super Bowl Someday?-Hannes Graf
5. Splitter From Vienna-Hannes Graf


The end of another year may be a good time to provide  the status of the 
digitization of the church records of Szentpeterfa, Hungary, & St. Kathrein 
in Austria that was initiated in August 1999. Fellow BB member John 
Lavendoski began this effort by photographing the Hungarian church records in 
the summer of 1999, returned to Burgenland in 2001 re-photographed some of 
the these records with a higher resolution digital camera, & took photos of 
the St. Kathrein church records. 

To date, a total of 16,506 birth, marriage, & death records  have been 
digitized . Of these, 13,444 have been forwarded to the LDS, consisting of 
11,702 entries for Szentpeterfa dating from 1681 to 1796, & 1,742 entries for 
St. Kathrein dating from 1804 to 1831. 

3438 death records of Szentpeterfa, dating from 1682 to 1797, were just 
released to the LDS last month, are included in the total count of digitized 
church records, but have yet to be converted to microfilm media.
Another 3,062 church records, entitled Post 1895 Szentpeterfa birth records  
(to 1924), marriage records (to 1934), & death records (to1906) have already 
been digitized. Discussions with the LDS have been initiated concerning these 
Post 1895 records, & it is the intent to release these  to them as soon as 
they are printed, & copies are dispatched to the Pastor of the Church of Sts. 
Peter, & Paul in Szentpeterfa. 

The LDS has confirmed that the Szentpeterfa & St Kathrein church records, 
have already been converted to their microfilm media, & will soon be 
available for worldwide viewing via their Family History Centers. The 
assigned microfilm number is 1224600, which includes the digitized St 
Kathrein records as -8, Chronological Birth records of Szentpeterfa as -9, 
Alphabetical Birth records of Szentpeterfa as - 10,  & Marriage records of 
Szentpeterfa as -11. This microfilm is planned for release in the next 
download to the Family History Library Catalog. This microfilm will be listed 
along with all of the available LDS that can be seen via the URL .  

CD's, and printed copies, containing all of the digitized records have been 
forwarded to Fr. John Schneller in Hungary. CD's & partial hard copies are in 
the possession of John Lavendoski. CD's, and or electronic copies, containing 
a portion of these records have also been forwarded to BB members Dr. Albert 
Schuch, Frank Paukovits, & Steve Geosits.

The Post 1895 church records of Szentpeterfa contain a significant amount of 
genealogical information, & required extensive amounts of time to finalize. 
The birth records of this period are unique in that in addition to providing 
the usual birth information, later entries into these same birth records also 
show, for a majority of entries, confirmation date & location, as well as the 
date & location of the marriage and the spouse name for the newborn. 

The challenging part of this is to accurately  read  the newlyly entered 
marriage data, written in a different hand, with smudged ink & writing 
compressed into a single narrow column. Being in Hungarian does not add to 
reading ease. The information  in the observation column mandated a 
compromise between the photographic & the reading process. This was discussed 
between John & myself, but there is no easy method of photographing such 
large registers without a significant manual effort, (movement of camera & 
pod for each page) & the special, time consuming, cataloguing of separately 
photographed pages to insure the integrity of data written in both left & 
right pages for each entry. The result of the compromise can be seen in the 
amount of unreadable information from this observation column. 

Hopefully, as photographic & software technologies continue to improve, 
compromises  will be eliminated, and someone will come forth & continue to 
review & update the initial release of these records.  It is particularly 
gratifying to see that  long years of sustained effort have resulted in the 
initial release of these records for worldwide viewing by those interested.

The next & last step in digitizing the records of Szentpeterfa, Hungary for 
the period 1796 to 1895, currently contained in LDS microfilms 0602026/27, 
remains unclear as of this date. Hopefully, one of the avenues being pursued 
will result in digitized images being made available so that all  information 
for the village of Szentpeterfa, Hungary will be contiguous from1681 to the 
early 1900's.


The Allentown Morning Call carried the following obituary: 

January 24, 2003
Helen Konrath, 95, of 914 Race St., Catasauqua, died Jan. 22 in Holy Family 
Manor, Bethlehem. She was the wife of Joseph R. Konrath (well known music 
teacher and choir director), who died in 1999. Born in Rotenturm (a. d. 
Pinka), Austria, she was a daughter of the late Steve and Anna (Benedick) 
Haselbacher. Survivors: Daughter, Helen Klinger, with whom she resided; two 
granddaughters, five great-grandchildren.

Continued From Newsletter 111.)
Father Leopold, Part VI - Childhood Großhöflein
Most of the farmhouses were arranged in Franconian style, beginning at the 
village-road to back to a barn as a completion of the yard. The "vordere 
Stube" (front-parlor) was the first room of the house, facing the road. It 
served as the parents' bedroom. Next was the kitchen, then the "Hintere 
Stube" (back-parlor) for the children or grandparents. Next were the "Kammer" 
(chamber) and the "Schüttkasten" (a building or room for storing grain). 
Following was the "Presshaus", where the press for the grapes and the 
wine-cellar were located, followed by the stables for cows, oxen and horses, 
then the pig sty, the houses for geese and chicken, the "Häusl" (privy) with 
cesspit, the shelter for the wagons and finally the "Stadel" (barn). The 
buildings were all built next to each other, so that "Hintaus" (backyard) was 
a closed front. That was of great importance for defense. In front, by the 
village road, the yards were open, only connected by an archway, in the rear, 
 they were closed by the line of the barns. Yard gates - as seen today - were 
not common. The houses were connected by the so-called "Schwiebogen" (the 
arched porch). Between the houses were the so-called "Reier", into which the 
rain-runoffs of the roofs drained off to the road and into the village's 
brook. That Reier was a welcome playground for us children.

As we came from Vienna, my nicknames were either "der Weaner" (the Viennese) 
or "der Konsumerer" - because of my father's job leading the local 
"Konsum"-market. Just like the grown-ups had their nicknames and house-names, 
we children had them too. Strangers often could find persons only by their 

The farmhouses had no yard gates, so that cows, oxen and horses could be 
easily led to water and chicken, ducks and geese had a free run. During 
summer the "Halter" (cattle drover) drove the cattle to the pasture at the 
meadow or to the "Föllik" (Rem.: a local mound, today used as waste dump). 
The drover started near the church, blew his horn and flicked his long 
"Goassl" (whip). The farmers let their cattle out. The drover brought them to 
the pasture and back home in the evening. Usually a dog helped to guide the 
herd. The drover had to be careful, that the cows did no damage to vineyards 
or fields. On coming back home, the cows often made dust, because they ran 
home. They found their own yard themselves. When a new yard gate was made, 
the cow stood there perplexed and did not know what to do. Therefore the 
following dictum was formulated, if someone does not know what to do: "Er 
steht da, wie die Kuh vor einem neuen Tor" (He stands there, just like a cow 
in front of a new yard gate! 

But not all the farmers had their cows kept in the common herd. Some of them 
had the cattle driven by their boys to the "Halt" (pastures). As my parents 
had no domestic animals, I often went "halten treiben" (droving) with the 
other boys. While the cows pastured we boys played. Near the "Müliboch" 
(Mühlbach - the mill creek), which came from Müllendorf and on to the 
Wulka-river, we swung on the branches of the "Föwabamer" (willow trees) at 
the brook side or we caught crayfish in the creek, which we cooked until they 
got red. If someone got bad sunburn, people said: "Der ist rot wie ein 
Krebs!" (He is as red as a crayfish).

"Feuerheizen" (making a fire) belonged to droving. We made fire with a 
burning-glass and sunshine. In autumn we cooked potatoes and corn in the 
fire. The boys also stole the ripe grapes and the nuts. In summer we often 
took a bath in the "Alten Teich" ("Old Pond") near the "Moahof" (Meierhof. We 
got black from the mud. We cleaned ourselves in the water of the "Mühlbach". 
On driving cattle to the "Föllik", we sometimes put "Spennadeln" (nails) onto 
the tracks of the "Ödenburgerbahn" (a still existing private Austro-Hungarian 
Railroad company, named "Raab-Ödenburg-Ebenfurter Eisenbahn"), which were 
flattened  by the trains. (To be continued)
Matthias Artner, part VI - WW II and it's end
When the "Red Army" marched in, people often suffered from the numerous 
assaults especially during the first weeks of occupation. Plundering and 
other violations were the agenda of the "soldateska". But after the end of 
combat operations -the Russians worked for normalization of life and for 
establishing democratic order; appointed  mayors in the villages and allowed 
political parties. But often those municipal leaders were executive organs of 
the occupying power. Often they had to recruit workers and commander 
foodstuffs, even cattle. But circumstances, by and by, normalized. Many 
people had lost belongings, but not experience and knowledge, so people found 
substitutes, because need makes people inventive. Money was not of 
importance, not even the "Besatzungsschilling" (Schilling of the occupying 
powers), which was created by the allies. People dressed in clothes they had 
saved. Soon the first POWs returned home, but many not until  years later.

At Christmas 1945 - Federal Chancellor Leopold Figl said the following: " I 
can not give you anything, no bread, no warmth, only one thing: the belief in 
Austria." Or (a part of the homily) of priest Lehner at New Years Eve 1945: 
"How fearful we were looking into the future at the beginning of that year 
and asked ourselves: How shall we get through? The war and the last year not 
only brought plenty of worries, it also brought the strength and the mercy to 
bear that. God has helped us so far and he may help us further."

Today nobody talks about that, because in days, when everything is going 
well, we don't think about that time. Thank God! (To be continued)


We previously mentioned that Güssing had formed a football team. American 
football seems to catching on in the Borderland. Hannes writes:

I want to bring you some news. Some of you know about the "Austrian" American 
Football League and of the first Burgenland club, the Güssing Gladiators.

Now I find that there will be a new one in Mattersburg, this is non-official 
but the chairman of the Austrian FL has been talking about it.


(ED. Note-I write to Hannes: Wie bischt? Hope the cold Viennese weather is 
not bothering you. Kalt hier auch. Ein bissel schnapps vielleicht! Grüss zu 

Hannes replies: Yes it is very cold and snowing every day. I like this 
weather, when nothing works, because it shows me how much people rely on 
cars. They feel it is better to spend much time in a car in traffic, as 
opposed to using train, underground or streetcar in minutes.

Also for nature walks, snow is very nice. In Vienna, there is an island 
between the two arms of the Danube. You can find it on maps, it is 22km long, 
with areas of wood and lakes, and many animals like geese, ducks, heron, 
rabbits, beaver, deer. The funny thing is, you can go by bus or underground 
directly to this Island and than walk to the next bridge where a bus can 
carry us home.
(click on the map!!)

Our standard walk, when Elfie's work ends is from Reichsbrücke, 5 km to 
Praterbrücke. When I go alone I start at the south end from the Freudenau 
power station and go to the southest point and return, about 11 km. Sometimes 
these days I see no one else. Only the ships on the Danube. So I am more 
outside and I feel great.


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Burgenland Lake Corner Research: (Dale Knebel)
Chicago Burgenland Enclave: (Tom Glatz)
Croatian Burgenland: , (Frank Teklits)
Home Page village lists,, (Bill Rudy)
Home Page surname lists: (Tom Steichen)
Home Page membership list:, (Hannes Graf, Austria)
Judaic Burgenland: (Maureen Tighe-Brown)
Lehigh Valley Burgenland Enclave: (Robert Strauch)
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