Orange County California Genealogical Society
17 No. 6
Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690
Mary Jo McQueen
meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00
a.m. to Noon at the Mission Viejo Family History Center Institute
Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo, between Medical
Center Drive and Hillcrest Drive. Membership is open to anyone interested
in genealogy. Individual membership fees are $20 per calendar year,
$25 for joint membership.
SOCCGS is not affiliated with the LDS Family History Center.
June 19, 2010
"Researching Maternal & Sibling
|During this presentation
Ms. Serna will show examples and explore sources for researching
female lines, as well as looking at brothers and sisters and other
relatives. She will give the researcher ideas for finding missing
information so that a more complete picture of ancestor’s families
may be developed. The information outlined in this program should
be a helpful resource for any researcher facing a “brick wall.”
During the past 15 years, Linda has been actively involved in genealogy.
She has given several presentations at genealogy groups in Southern
California on various topics; including the part history plays in
genealogy. She also speaks on family stories, finding clues in sources,
interpreting records and brick walls. Her favorite pastimes, in
addition to public speaking, include history, writing and traveling.
Linda and her mother enjoyed researching the family together for
many years. Now, one of her sons has picked up the reins and is
working with her.
We are looking forward to meeting and hearing Linda.
Coming To The Library"
|At the May meeting, Mary Jo McQueen
informed the members as to the change soon to be made at the Mission
Viejo Library. This modification directly involves our genealogy
Due to lack of space and an increase in the public’s demand for
a larger selection of fiction reading material, the library’s biography
selections will be moved to the shelves now being occupied by genealogy
The SOCCGS collection is being moved across the library to a portion
of the Local History Section. There will be considerably less shelving;
therefore our selection of books will be reduced. A committee is
working now to best decide how to accomplish this reduction. Many
of the books we now have in our collection are available on CDs
we already own, and new CDs will be purchased. Books are also being
located online and lists of these will be made available to our
patrons. Watch for email messages from Herb Abrams, in which you
will be advised as to the disposition of surplus books. Donors,
if they wish, may reclaim their books if they are on the surplus
list. Please call Mary Jo for further information, or to make arrangements
to pick up your books. We can make this work!
|The May meeting brought us speaker
Caroline Braxton Rober. She spoke on “Analyze – Key to Further Research.”
One of her suggestions was to go back and look at your earlier research
and records. With your more advanced eye of today, you may see a
glaring discrepancy in your earlier data, or perhaps find a valuable
bit of information that meant nothing to you when doing the earlier
research. Following Caroline’s advice just may lead you to do further
research and new discoveries. If you missed the meeting, check at
the library for a copy of her syllabus.
“Thank you” to Lorna Irey, Margaret Luckman and Jack Naylor who
brought goodies and drinks for our meeting. These always make our
breaks more enjoyable. If you would like to volunteer to provide
snacks or drinks, please see Hospitality Co-Chairman Barbara Heebner
at our next meeting. There are openings for some dates during the
rest of the year.
Several of those in attendance shared genealogy suggestions, requested
assistance with areas of need, and advised us of upcoming events.
Donna Hobbs suggested that we try State Archives for naturalization
Carol Haynes needs assistance with Netherlands – Dutch translations.
Sharon Jackson’s son speaks Dutch and can help with translations.
Karen Gill needs translation help with Russian and Polish.
Jo Taylor mentioned that a relative of hers works at Saddleback
College and the college has lots of Russian translators.
Clarice Olson said Footnote.com has a newsletter she enjoys. Check
out the May Footnotes newsletter.
Marcia Roy spoke about the upcoming Irish Fair, June 5-6, at Irvine
Several people mentioned that there are Memorial Day celebrations
nearby on Monday, May 31; including El Toro Memorial Park and Fairhaven
Beach Cities Quilt Guild will hold a quilt show on June 5-6 at Soka
University. There will be hundreds of quilts displayed.
Schelia Evans, Laguna Niguel was a guest.
|Two members joined at the May
meeting. Please welcome Mr. Sun Ha Kim, Laguna Woods and
Ms. Sharon Jackson, Rancho Santa Margarita. Mr. Kim’s email
address is firstname.lastname@example.org.
His surnames are Yong Pil Kim - grandfather Kyung Soo Kim - g grandfather
|On Wednesday, June 23, we will
trek to the Cole Genealogy Library in Carlsbad. We will leave the
LDS parking lot at 9:30 a.m. Don’t forget $$ for your driver. There
are no plans for dinner on the way home. Contact Bill Bluett to
reserve a spot.
This library is one of the best in Southern California. Preparation
is the key to making any research trip successful. Use the library
catalogue and set your genealogy research in motion.
This will provide an opportunity to obtain a Carlsbad Library card,
if you don’t have one. With this card you can research from the
comfort of your own computer such databases as Heritage Quest and
"More About Herb
Abrams’ Lost Revolutionary War Ancestor"
|In the June 2008 Issue of Saddleback
Valley Trails Herb told of having a DNA test and finding that he
did not match with a person who was descended from the second son
and another who was descended from the third son of James Abrams,
the Revolutionary War soldier. Those two however did match with
each other. So, Herb lost an ancestor he had always counted on!
Herb’s paper trail indicated that he was descended from William,
the first son of James Abrams, and he suspected that William was
adopted. (See May, 2009 issue of Saddleback Valley Trails).
Now he reports: “Recently, I found another descendant of William
Abrams from another son and persuaded him to get a DNA test and
guess what? We matched! So, that confirms my suspicion that William
was not the biological son of James. This solves one puzzle but
who was William’s father? That is still unclear.” And, the search
Dr. George Schweitzer is coming October 16!
|Plans are under way for SOCCGS
7th Annual Seminar, Reservations started coming in at the May meeting.
It is not too early to reserve your spot. We expect a full house
for Dr. Schweitzer’s third visit to Mission Viejo. A Flyer and Reservation
Form will be found on the last page of this newsletter. Tell your
friends! Information is also on the SOCCGS Website.
|Thanks to member, Jeanne Barrett,
there are now four computers for patron use at the SOCCGS Library.
She donated a “like new” computer. SOCCGS purchased a new monitor
and Herb Abrams has the unit up and running.
"A Letter to
the Genealogy Society"
|I was born in Tennessee and moved
to Kansas at the age of five. I never knew any of my relatives.
My genealogy quest began a little over a year ago. I had found a
great deal of information about the Shelby and the Payne
families, but the Ingram and McCoy's were more of
a challenge. My grandmother was a McCoy from the Dover, Tennessee
area. I posted my name on Genealogy.Com and asked if anyone knew
her. About an hour later I received an e-mail from a young man from
Kentucky saying he was a relative. He had done a lot work on the
McCoy family tree and was willing to share it with me. We now talk
almost every day. It was a lucky day when we found each other. Another
long lost cousin contacted me saying she knew of a man in Dover,
Tennessee who was doing research on the McCoy's. I contacted him
and he sent me much information.
My husband and I traveled to Tennessee last year and did some research
at the Dover Library. A lady there told me I should read the book
"One Man's War" about Jack Hinson. She thought a “Mary McCoy” had
worked for Jack Hinson. I read the book and found that she was a
black lady, so wasn't my Mary McCoy. It was a very good book. I
wrote to the publisher and my letter was forwarded to Tom McKenney,
the author. Mr. McKenney and I have spoken, and he wants to meet
us in Dover the next time we go. He knows a great deal about the
Civil War. He would like to show us Grants Headquarters, and which
homes in the area were used as hospitals.
My research has gone this way: It seems, every one I talk to tells
me of someone else to contact. That person in turn sends me much
information and many pictures.
The Mission Viejo Library has been a great resource, with Gary Schwarz
helping me all along the way. I have found 14 first cousins and
many distant relatives of whom I had no knowledge. We all now stay
One of the Shelby's was the first governor of Kentucky. My Payne
families were early settlers of Tennessee and fought in the Revolutionary,
Civil, and Mexican Wars, and probably fought the McCoy's. (Ha).
R. S. Payne fought with William Campbell, who gave Tennessee the
name, the Volunteer State. R. S. would sit on his porch and read
the newspaper to his neighbors, who were not able to read. I find
I have big shoes to fill, coming from such kind wonderful people.
How lucky am I, to have been born in the South, where everyone is
willing to talk and share.
"New York State
Military Museum and Veterans Research Center"
|Although still a work in progress,
this site is packed with information and images concerning NYS residents
who have served, from the pre-Revolution through Desert Storm. Some
of which you will find:
- Regimental histories and rosters of members, mostly Civil
- Downloadable spreadsheets for "Register of officers whose
services terminated prior to Jan. 1, 1858"
- Online images of Civil War battle flags along with 2 downloadable
- Online images from various military eras.
"Just What Suits
~Patricia Ann (Dean)
|During World War II, the war effort
brought out the best of ingenuity within my family. We grew our
own vegetables and some fruits (totally organic) while we lived
in Columbus, Hamilton County, Ohio. My mother, Rebecca Irene Shultz
Dean (born 23 Sep 1904 in Shelbyville, Shelby County, Illinois)
was a master at recycling and innovation; just like her mother before
her (Hannah Essie Potter Shultz, b. 2 Jul 1874, Lynnville, Morgan
I was stepping decades back in time when I recently came across
a photograph taken in 1940 of my two younger sisters, mother and
me. There we were, all dressed up in spic and span clothing, our
shoes shined, our hair glossy and curled with smiles on our faces.
Now, for the story behind the picture:
The day of the sitting, Mother bathed us all at the same time in
our claw-footed cast iron tub. She, in her slip and stockings, chenille
bathrobe and bedroom slippers; her hair was still in Bobbie pin
roll ups. She cleansed her face with Ponds Cold Cream, put on a
little lipstick and we were nearly ready to go.
We knew that bath time was over when Mother poured cold water over
us from our toy tin teapot; this in order to “close our pores.”
We shrieked and shivered as one by one we clambered out of the tub.
We put on “new” white blouses with Peter Pan collars and puffed
sleeves, which had been made from our dad’s retired dress shirts.
Satin ribbon bows adorned the collars. We each wore pleated hounds
tooth patterned skirts made from Dad’s old suit. I was given a bow
for my hair; after all, I was the oldest.
“Sitting” to have a picture taken is a misnomer; especially when
there are young children involved. An air of self-discipline suddenly
came over us when Mother took from her purse her secret weapon …
a Tootsie Roll! Breaking it into three parts, we were instructed
to stop fussing, get into place, and each hold our piece of the
Tootsie Roll. We were further instructed that when the photographer
was finished, we could eat the candy.
Nancy and Barbara, with their right hands clenched, hung onto their
temporarily purloined treat. Because I ended up standing on a low
stool, while everyone else was seated, I accidentally dropped my
segment of Tootsie Roll. There by the toe of my youngest sister’s
shoe, for the entire world to see, is preserved in a family portrait,
a silent sentinel of what bribery can accomplish, is my piece of
the Tootsie Roll.
Claimed it was, as soon as the photographer uttered, “We are done.”
Not by me, but by my little sister, Nancy! She not only crammed
her piece into her mouth, but mine as well. Lamentations of deprivation
poured out of my mouth as well as tears down my cheeks. I don’t
know which is worse, losing your treat or being outwitted by a four
Mother leaned over and, as she wiped away my tears, whispered words
of wisdom in my ear about being the oldest, etc., etc., etc. It
wasn’t until she handed me, still intact, not broken into thirds,
in its original waxy paper wrapper, my very own Tootsie Roll, that
I felt redeemed. An even higher level of redemption came my way,
when my sisters were told, “Patricia doesn’t have to share unless
she wants to.” Yeeeeesssss! However, I did finally share. (It was
many years, though, before I learned how to be a gracious sharing
I did gain some manner of satisfaction. There is nothing more pitiful
than seeing a four year old drooling chocolate down the front of
her crisp white blouse and onto her hand-made hounds tooth pleated
skirt to make me realize that some acts of sharing bring great results.
Sharing suited me then and it suits me now. “God’s in his Heaven
and all’s right with the world.”
Statistics regarding my sisters: The youngest, Nancy Lou, was born
5 July 1936, Barbara K., 7 February 1934 and I, Patricia Ann, 29
Nov 1932, all in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio. We moved to
Columbus, Ohio, in 1939. (There is a family rumor/myth that my youngest
sister was named after Nancy in the “Nancy and Sluggo” comic strip,
which was popular at the time of her birth.)
~David Flint, Chairman
|Please visit our website at
(or type SOCCGS into Google) to learn about our society’s co-sponsorship
and participation in the World Archives Project with Ancestry.com.
There are links on our website to connect you with information about
the program and how to get started. Please consider helping with
this service project. It’s a great way to give something back to
the larger genealogy community.
New at the Library
|The Mission Viejo Chapter DAR
has purchased two new CDs for the SOCCGS Library. Many of the books
noted will replace books for which we no longer have room. Thank
|#364 American Source Records
in England (Case 30)
The following books are included on this CD:
- American Wills Proved in London, 1611-1775
- American Wills & Administrations in the Prerogative Court
of Canterbury, 1610-1857
- English Estates of American Colonists, 1610-1600
- English Estates of American Colonists, 1800-1858
- English Estates of American Settlers, 1800-1858
- Genealogical Gleanings in England (2vols)
- Virginia Gleanings in England
- American Colonists in English Records
- English Origins of American Colonists from New York Genealogical
and Biographical Record
- Topographical Dictionary of 2,885 English Emigrants to New
- Result of Some Researches Among the British Archives, Relative
to New England
|#523 Early Maine and New Hampshire
Settlers (Case 30)
The following books are included on this CD:
- Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire
- The Pioneers of Maine and New Hampshire
- Maine Historical and Genealogical Recorder (vols.)
- 1790 Census of Maine
- 1790 Census of New Hampshire
- History of York Maine (2 vols.)
- Maine Wills, 1640-1760)
- Probate Records of Lincoln County, Maine, 1760-1800
- Maine Biographies (2 vols)
- Names of Soldiers of the American Revolution from Maine
- Alphabetical Index of Revolutionary Pensioners in Maine
- Colonial Gravestone Inscriptions in New Hampshire
- Military History of the State of New Hampshire
- Vital Records of Londonderry, New Hampshire, 1719-1910
|SOCCGS has purchased a
new CD, which will replace six books in the New England section
of our genealogy library.
#181 English Origins of New England Families, 1500s-1800s. (Case
This Family Archive contains images of the pages from the Genealogical
Publishing Company's books entitled English Origins of New England
Families, which trace family histories back to their English roots,
some as far back as the 11th century. Included on this Family Archive
are some of the most sought-after immigrant-origin articles published
in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. These articles
will be of interest to almost all Americans with colonial heritage.
This Family Archive references the names of more than 143,000 individuals.
A sizable number of articles provide information on clusters of
nearly related immigrants or on all settlers with a given surname.
Other notable inclusions are articles covering over 50 of the 125
New England immigrants of royal descent and those dealing with Mayflower
passengers, colony founders, and clergymen. For convenience and
easy searching, Broderbund has provided an alphabetical name index
for this CD.
~David Flint - Ways
& Means Chairman
|Don’t forget to shop at Ralphs!
This is a reminder for you to designate SOCCGS as the organization
to receive funds from Ralphs. Please see the detailed instructions
on our website
DID YOU KNOW?
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom,
The two oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower
portion of each door.
|The 2010 SCGS Jamboree
is scheduled Friday, June 11 through Sunday, June 13 at the
LA Marriott Burbank Airport Hotel.
October 9 - Family History Day at the California State Archives,
1020 "O" Street, Downtown Sacramento from 8:30am to 4pm. FREE event!
For details, please contact Gwen Myers at
email@example.com or Sandra
Benward at firstname.lastname@example.org.
October 16 – SOCCGS Family History Seminar featuring Dr.
|This is a great website with CD’s
for purchase at very reasonable prices. Explore their collection
of State History books. Each CD offers a vast array of hard to impossible
to find books on a variety of subjects relevant to 18th and 19th
century state, city and county history. The SOCCGS library recently
received an “Iowa” CD as a donation. This CD includes 40 Iowa related
books. It is in Case 30.
Do you need a
|Wearing a name badge at the monthly
meetings is an excellent way to meet new friends and/or possibly
a “cousin.” These are provided to all members at no cost. Please
contact Herb Abrams at (949) 581-6292 or
email@example.com. He will
have one ready at the next meeting.
Seminar & Safari
Bill Bluett ________________________
||Cindie Reily _______________________
||Pat Weeks _______________________
|Treasurer & Newsletter
||Mary Jo McQueen
||Jack Naylor ______________________
||Herb Abrams _____________________
||Bunny Smith _____________________
||Charles & Patricia
Eunice Muari ______________________
|Ways & Means
||David Flint ________________________
South Orange County
California Genealogical Society Membership/Renewal Application
( ) New
( ) Renewal
( ) Individual, $20/yr.
( ) Joint Members, same address $25/yr.
State_____ Zip ____________ Phone _________________________
Make check payable
to: SOCCGS (South Orange County CA Genealogical Society)
Mail with application
to: SOCCGS, P.O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA 92690-4513
South Orange County
California Genealogical Society
Mission Viejo, California
A Family History Seminar
Saturday, October 16, 2009 - 9:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.
(Doors Open 8:00 a.m.)
City Hall, Saddleback Room, 100 Civic Center Drive, Corner La Paz & Marguerite
(North end of the city hall directly across the library parking lot.)
“Our Patriotic & Adventurous Ancestors”
Dr. George K. Schweitzer
Renowned Genealogy Author & Lecturer - in full costume!
“Revolutionary War Genealogy”
“German Emigration, Immigration, and Migration Patterns”
“Rivers to Trails to Roads to Canals to Trains”
“Questions and Answers”
Refreshments - Door Prizes - Drawing for Handmade Quilt
Sales Tables and Displays
Pre-registration must be received by October 13 / Tickets at the door $25.00, no lunch.
(Seminar information & registration form are also available on SOCCGS website.)
SOCCGS ‘2010’ Seminar
_______ @ $20.00
_________ @ $9.00
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