still living - details excluded
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________+
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860
_William Clinton VICTOR _|
| (1893 - 1981) m 1925 |
| | _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______+
| | | (1853 - 1941) m 1871
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| |_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _+
| (1851 - 1942) m 1871
|
|--Marvel Joanne VICTOR
|
| ____________________________________
| |
| _______________________|
| | |
| | |____________________________________
| |
|_Kathryn Ivera NOONAN ___|
(1894 - ....) m 1925 |
| ____________________________________
| |
|_______________________|
|
|____________________________________
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _+
| (1895 - 1984) m 1920
_Richard Joseph VICTOR _|
| |
| |_Myrtle Dorothy PAGE _____
| (1901 - 1951) m 1920
_Larry Dean VICTOR __|
| |
| | __________________________
| | |
| |_Susanne E. ALTMAN _____|
| |
| |__________________________
|
|
|--Monica VICTOR
|
| __________________________
| |
| ________________________|
| | |
| | |__________________________
| |
|_Sandra _____ _______|
|
| __________________________
| |
|________________________|
|
|__________________________
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _+
| (1895 - 1984) m 1920
_Richard Joseph VICTOR _|
| |
| |_Myrtle Dorothy PAGE _____
| (1901 - 1951) m 1920
_Larry Dean VICTOR __|
| |
| | __________________________
| | |
| |_Susanne E. ALTMAN _____|
| |
| |__________________________
|
|
|--Neal VICTOR
|
| __________________________
| |
| ________________________|
| | |
| | |__________________________
| |
|_Sandra _____ _______|
|
| __________________________
| |
|________________________|
|
|__________________________
_Walter Moses VICTOR __+
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _|
| (1895 - 1984) m 1920 |
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _+
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892
_Richard Joseph VICTOR _|
| |
| | _______________________
| | |
| |_Myrtle Dorothy PAGE _____|
| (1901 - 1951) m 1920 |
| |_______________________
|
|
|--Pamela Jo VICTOR
|
| _______________________
| |
| __________________________|
| | |
| | |_______________________
| |
|_Phyllis _____ _________|
|
| _______________________
| |
|__________________________|
|
|_______________________
still living - details excluded
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________+
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _|
| (1895 - 1984) m 1920 |
| | _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______+
| | | (1853 - 1941) m 1871
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| |_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _+
| (1851 - 1942) m 1871
|
|--Richard Joseph VICTOR
|
| ____________________________________
| |
| _______________________|
| | |
| | |____________________________________
| |
|_Myrtle Dorothy PAGE _____|
(1901 - 1951) m 1920 |
| ____________________________________
| |
|_______________________|
|
|____________________________________
In 1928, he was staying with his sister Vervia's family at 2207 Duvall, Los Angeles, and working as a chauffeur. Family records indicate he may have died in Arizona, either in 1990 or 1991.
________________________
|
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________|
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860 |
| |________________________
|
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| | _John DANSON ___________
| | | (.... - 1860)
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________|
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860 |
| |_Catherine POWERS ______
|
|
|--Richard Melvin VICTOR
| (1908 - 1990)
| _William Michael REEDY _
| | (1821 - 1857)
| _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______|
| | (1853 - 1941) m 1871 |
| | |_Mary Kerr RANKIN ______+
| | (1824 - 1902)
|_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
(1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| _John MCDOUGALL ________+
| | (1810 - 1884)
|_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _|
(1851 - 1942) m 1871 |
|_Elvira URAN ___________
(1812 - 1900)
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _+
| (1895 - 1984) m 1920
_Richard Joseph VICTOR _|
| |
| |_Myrtle Dorothy PAGE _____
| (1901 - 1951) m 1920
_Robert Henry VICTOR _|
| |
| | __________________________
| | |
| |_Susanne E. ALTMAN _____|
| |
| |__________________________
|
|
|--Robbie VICTOR
|
| __________________________
| |
| ________________________|
| | |
| | |__________________________
| |
|_Margie CHIADO _______|
|
| __________________________
| |
|________________________|
|
|__________________________
_Walter Moses VICTOR __+
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _|
| (1895 - 1984) m 1920 |
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _+
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892
_Richard Joseph VICTOR _|
| |
| | _______________________
| | |
| |_Myrtle Dorothy PAGE _____|
| (1901 - 1951) m 1920 |
| |_______________________
|
|
|--Robert Henry VICTOR
|
| _______________________
| |
| __________________________|
| | |
| | |_______________________
| |
|_Susanne E. ALTMAN _____|
|
| _______________________
| |
|__________________________|
|
|_______________________
World War I draft card dated June 5, 1917 shows his occupation as "Transmission of Mails" (U.S. Government), and his residence as 123 Broadway N., Seattle. He was inducted October 18, 1918, and honorably discharged (demobilization) December 10, 1918.
Social Security Death Index, #535-01-6717, and family records.
________________________
|
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________|
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860 |
| |________________________
|
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| | _John DANSON ___________
| | | (.... - 1860)
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________|
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860 |
| |_Catherine POWERS ______
|
|
|--Robert Ingersoll VICTOR
| (1895 - 1984)
| _William Michael REEDY _
| | (1821 - 1857)
| _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______|
| | (1853 - 1941) m 1871 |
| | |_Mary Kerr RANKIN ______+
| | (1824 - 1902)
|_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
(1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| _John MCDOUGALL ________+
| | (1810 - 1884)
|_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _|
(1851 - 1942) m 1871 |
|_Elvira URAN ___________
(1812 - 1900)
still living - details excluded
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________+
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860
_Richard Melvin VICTOR _|
| (1908 - 1990) |
| | _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______+
| | | (1853 - 1941) m 1871
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| |_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _+
| (1851 - 1942) m 1871
|
|--Roberta Marlene VICTOR
|
| ____________________________________
| |
| _______________________|
| | |
| | |____________________________________
| |
|_Florence Leola CHEEK __|
|
| ____________________________________
| |
|_______________________|
|
|____________________________________
_Walter Moses VICTOR __+
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _|
| (1895 - 1984) m 1920 |
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _+
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892
_Richard Joseph VICTOR _|
| |
| | _______________________
| | |
| |_Myrtle Dorothy PAGE _____|
| (1901 - 1951) m 1920 |
| |_______________________
|
|
|--Ronald VICTOR
|
| _______________________
| |
| __________________________|
| | |
| | |_______________________
| |
|_Alda DICKSON __________|
|
| _______________________
| |
|__________________________|
|
|_______________________
still living - details excluded
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________+
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _|
| (1895 - 1984) m 1937 |
| | _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______+
| | | (1853 - 1941) m 1871
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| |_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _+
| (1851 - 1942) m 1871
|
|--Sharon Sue VICTOR
|
| ____________________________________
| |
| _George HILL __________|
| | |
| | |____________________________________
| |
|_Shirley Violet CLARK ____|
(1919 - 1993) m 1937 |
| ____________________________________
| |
|_Grace SHERO __________|
|
|____________________________________
As of 1991, living in Sandy, UT.
_Walter Moses VICTOR __+
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892
_William Clinton VICTOR _|
| (1893 - 1981) m 1925 |
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _+
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892
_Marion Lee VICTOR __|
| |
| | _______________________
| | |
| |_Kathryn Ivera NOONAN ___|
| (1894 - ....) m 1925 |
| |_______________________
|
|
|--Sherry Lynn VICTOR
|
| _______________________
| |
| _________________________|
| | |
| | |_______________________
| |
|_Barbara _____ ______|
|
| _______________________
| |
|_________________________|
|
|_______________________
Family information did not say what became of Solomon. Because he was not with his family in the 1880 census, we assumed he had already died. However, this is not necessarily so.
Another possibility is suggested by naturalization records of the US Circuit Court at Chicago: Solomon Victor, 560 Wabash Ave., Chicago, b. Germany about 1832, arrived in the United States October, 1854, NY, naturalized Oct. 30, 1890. This is apparently the same Solomon who died in Chicago 20 apr 1900, age listed as 57 (should be 67, from other records), ID #19175. He is also listed in the 1891 Chicago directory, selling real estate, and he appears in the 1888 and 1890 Chicago voter registration lists, in 1890 with the same address, and the interesting notation that he had lived in his precinct 1 year at the time he applied in October, 1890, and had resided in Chicago and in the state of Illinois for the past 19 years. The 1888 list says he has lived in precinct 6, ward 4 for 5 months, and in the state and county for 18 years. That would put his arrival in the area at about 1870-1871. However, he has not been found in the 1880 census. These lists indicate he was already naturalized, "date not known, court not known". He seems not to be on the 1892 Chicago voters list.
Research on the immigration of the Solomon Victor naturalized in 1890: Hamburg passenger embarkation index for 1854 shows Salomon Victor, occupation Kaufmann (merchant), b. Pyritz, Prussia, departed for New York on ship "Ludwig" August, 05 sep 1854, Capt. C. Plate. This ship arrived in NY 26 oct 1854, but Solomon is not listed on the passenger list there. Instead, he changed ships in Liverpool and arrived in New York 24 oct 1854 on the ship "William Rathbone" from Liverpool. Pyritz is a town near modern Szczecin, in the region of Pomerania or Hinter Pomern, modern Pyzryce. An enumeration (technically a "Matrikel"?) of the Jewish households of this town exists (LDS film #1184446), dated April 22, 1853. The Solomon who landed in New York in 1854 was certainly not born in 1843 (as would be supposed from the death certificate in Chicago) if he was already a merchant (Kaufmann) in 1854, or a laborer as indicated on the manifest of the William Rathbone. A marriage record in Cook Co., IL, shows Solomon Victor to Louise Fiegel, 28 nov 1883, his age given as 40, hers as 23, no other information. Since so many in this family have fibbed about their ages on official documents, I am inclined to think that the Solomon who was naturalized, the one embarking at Hamburg, and the one who married Louise Fiegel, are all the same man, and since nothing is known of this man between 1854 and 1883, we have no way of proving that he was not our Solomon! In particular, he does not seem to be found on any US census 1860-1880.
Another possible lead is found in the 1881 census, London, Hackney. At 33 Bushberry Road, we find Henry Victor 62, Commission Agent b. Germany, and his wife Gertrude 56, also born in Germany. The corresponding listing in 1871 shows birthplace as "Rinaten in Prussia" or something similar. It is possible that our Solomon had relatives in England, as indicated by the (1861?) directory listing in Manchester, "Moses Victor and Sons, Merchants, 68 Faulkner St., Manchester." More effort will have to be given to locating them in other censuses and records. However, as to the 1861 directory listing, examination of what appears to be an exhaustive series of notes about foreign businesses in the Manchester area does not mention him, so we have come to believe the directory listing reflects only an unsuccessful attempt to start a business; no branch was actually established in Manchester, but we have to believe that Moses was alive at the time the directory listing was paid for.
After searching the 1861 census for Manchester and Salford roll by roll, Solomon and Marion were finally located at 128 King Street, ecclesiastical district of St. Stephen's, Trinity ward of Salford, lodging in the household of widow Rachel Piggott. Solomon's occupation was "dealer in smallwares" (i.e., haberdashery trims, bindings, and braids). The most significant fact revealed here is that Marion's birthplace was "Quebec, Lower Canada", presumably meaning in or near the city of Quebec.
The 1853 enumeration of Pyritz shows evidence of several Victor families. There is a Salomon Victor, 20 years of age, son of Victor S. Victor (age 55) and Liene Meyer (age 53). The same microfilm contains a later enumeration, circa 1870 (no date, but with birthdates for some young children apparently as late as the late 1860's), which, although in part stained or faded beyond legibility, lists the widow of Victor S. Victor with two of her daughters, apparently in house number 41, though listed out of order. House number 40 is too faint to read, but looks like it could be Salomon Victor with a wife and a number of children, though the ages are not legible. But this could just as well be the older Salomon Victor, who was age 28 in 1853, then living alone but next to Louis Victor, also age 28, who in the later list is living with the widow Victor née Philippi -- the latter is found in the 1853 listing as Bertha Philipp (age 46) wife of M. S. Victor (age 53). Thus, while this list supports a different parentage for the Solomon who traveled to New York in 1854, the possibility remains that Solomon son of Victor S. Victor might have remained in Pyritz, and it is also possible that some of the Victor's of Pyritz had already moved out of this town by the time the enumeration was made in 1853. Among other reasons to suspect that the lists are incomplete, at least one of the adult Victors on the later list (Joseph) cannot be identified in the 1853 list.
On the suggestion of Paul Lipinski of the Polish Genealogical Society, we examined the Lutheran "churchbook duplicates" for Pyritz, and were pleased to discover that lists of births, marriages, and deaths for the Jewish community of Pyritz were included for the years 1840-1847. These lists, and other information recently received from correspondents, show that the Victors of Pyritz originated from a Salomon son of Victor who took the surname Victor in the early 1800's, when it was required for the resident Jews to do so. The pattern of names from that point forward appears to be that the father's given name is often used as the second given name for the sons. Thus, it appears that Victor Salomon Victor (born about 1798) is a son of the original Salomon Victor of Pyritz, and quite possibly the M. S. Victor(born about 1800) who married Bertha Phillipi is actually the Moses Victor we are looking for, another son of the same Salomon. Additional lists for the Jewish community of Pyritz are known in the Polish national archives (1818-1819), and there are still many rolls of "churchbook" duplicates for the district of Pyritz that need to be examined to see if any Jewish lists were included.
The discovery of a photograph of an elderly gentleman with a celluloid or similar collar, displayed on the wall behind the 1918 family portrait of Walter Victor, his wife, and their 6 children, makes us suppose that our Solomon Victor really did live beyond 1880. Every other feature of the 1918 photograph seems carefully posed and planned, and we find it hard to believe the the positioning of the family beneath the older photograph is accidental. The man on the wall is clearly not Walter's father-in-law, whose authentic portrait shows him to have a round head, thin, straight, thin hair, a prominent nose, and a small, receding chin. The portrait on the wall of the Victor home (the sofa appears in other snapshots from the Victor household, but without the portrait on the wall—another reason to suppose the inclusion of the man on the wall was purposeful) shows a man with thick, wavy, nearly white hair and grizzled mustache, with a relatively long face. We estimate his age as about 60. If Solomon Victor had died before 1880, he would have been less than 47 years old at the time, far younger than the man in the picture. The picture cannot be Moses Victor, either, as the style of collar seems to be much later than 1860. The only likely identity for the portrait is Solomon Victor, who must therefore have survived into the 1890's!
Another problem with the identification is that the Solomon Victor who was naturalized in 1890 declares he arrived in the US in 1854. But there is nothing in our family lore to preclude our ancestor from making several trips to America. If our Solomon went to Manchester about 1860 to try to set up a branch of his father's business, he may have made similar attempts at other times and in other ports. It is possible that this is actually our man, but if so, it will be necessary to dig much deeper to find proof.
The portrait of 1918, of course, must have been intended to encapsulate the story of Walter Victor and his family. Walter's interest in progressive social and political movements might also suggest that the portrait on the wall was a progressive hero of that time, rather than a family member. So far, no one has been able to identify the sitter with any famous person of the day.
As to Solomon's life in England, there is absolutely no information either before his marriage or after the departure of his wife and children from England. He has not been located on the 1851 or 1871 censuses, there are no death, probate, or divorce notices, and no family lore.
Birthplace from 1861 census, as well as information given by his children for the 1880 census. Living at Strangeways, Manchester at the time of his marriage in 1860, but in Salford in the 1861 census.
In 1880, Marion Victor ("widow") is living in Marinette, WI with a Mr. Thomas (#7888). The family is not found in the 1875 census of Oconto Co., nor in the index to the 1870 Wisconsin census. However, he may simply have left them.
_Walter Moses VICTOR __+
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892
_William Clinton VICTOR _|
| (1893 - 1981) m 1925 |
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _+
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892
_Marion Lee VICTOR __|
| |
| | _______________________
| | |
| |_Kathryn Ivera NOONAN ___|
| (1894 - ....) m 1925 |
| |_______________________
|
|
|--Steven Lee VICTOR
|
| _______________________
| |
| _________________________|
| | |
| | |_______________________
| |
|_Barbara _____ ______|
|
| _______________________
| |
|_________________________|
|
|_______________________
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _+
| (1895 - 1984) m 1920
_Richard Joseph VICTOR _|
| |
| |_Myrtle Dorothy PAGE _____
| (1901 - 1951) m 1920
_Larry Dean VICTOR __|
| |
| | __________________________
| | |
| |_Susanne E. ALTMAN _____|
| |
| |__________________________
|
|
|--Traci VICTOR
|
| __________________________
| |
| ________________________|
| | |
| | |__________________________
| |
|_Sandra _____ _______|
|
| __________________________
| |
|________________________|
|
|__________________________
As of 1991, she was said to be living in Memphis, TN.
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________+
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860
_William Clinton VICTOR _|
| (1893 - 1981) |
| | _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______+
| | | (1853 - 1941) m 1871
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| |_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _+
| (1851 - 1942) m 1871
|
|--Veretta VICTOR
|
| ____________________________________
| |
| _______________________|
| | |
| | |____________________________________
| |
|_Molly _____ ____________|
|
| ____________________________________
| |
|_______________________|
|
|____________________________________
Records of Greenwood Cemetery, San Diego, CA, indicate she took possession of her father's ashes 21 october 1933. She was living with her husband in Los Angeles at that time. Family records give her birthplace as Putnam Co., OK, but there is no such county, or even a town of that name, in either Oklahoma or Nebraska! Family insists she was the only one not born in Omaha, so it may be that she was born in Putnam, Dewey Co., OK. 1910 census shows her born in Oklahoma, but all other children in the family born in Nebraska.
Family information gives birthplace as Putnam Co., OK, which does not exist. She was said to be the only one of the family not born in Omaha. One of the two census listings for this family in 1900 was Harrison Township, Dewey Co., OK.
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|
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________|
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860 |
| |________________________
|
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| | _John DANSON ___________
| | | (.... - 1860)
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________|
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860 |
| |_Catherine POWERS ______
|
|
|--Vervia Marie VICTOR
| (1901 - 2007)
| _William Michael REEDY _
| | (1821 - 1857)
| _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______|
| | (1853 - 1941) m 1871 |
| | |_Mary Kerr RANKIN ______+
| | (1824 - 1902)
|_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
(1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| _John MCDOUGALL ________+
| | (1810 - 1884)
|_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _|
(1851 - 1942) m 1871 |
|_Elvira URAN ___________
(1812 - 1900)
Birth certificate obtained via "Remember When", Surrey, took less than 3 weeks using MasterCard, £ 8.25. Where: 1900 - Gosper Co., NE, 1910 - Marinette, WI, 1920 - Chicago, IL, age listed as 47 instead of 57, with the 2 children, marital status listed as widow, even though William Freeman was still alive and living in NE.
She was in Omaha from about 1890 until at least 1905. There are several mentions in the Omaha World Herald:
October 15, 1899: Society: "A very pretty wedding was that which united in marriage Miss Virginia R. Victor of this city ot Mr. William H. Freeman of Lexington, Neb. The ceremony was performed at the home of the bride's mother, Mrs. Marion Victor, 2620 (?) Burdette Street, Wednesday at 1 o'clock P.M. in the..."
January 4, 1903: Births: "boy, to William Freeman of 2613 Burdette St."
February 28, 1904: mention of William Freeman and Mrs. Virginia V. Freeman in "Lodge Room Gossip".
March 21, 1905: letter from Virginia V. Freeman.
Question for further research: is there any significance to that fact that her husband's family came from Canada? It seems unlikely, since the Freemans arrived in Nebraska before the Victors came to Quebec. However, the shared connection to Canada may have been what brought these families closer when they encountered each other in Omaha.
Since several of the Freeman descendants eventually came to California, it is possible some facts about the Victor family may still be found among them.
Births Index, first quarter 1863, vol. 1C p. 254. Certificate from General Register Office shows address as 19 Marian Street, Bethnal Green, sub-district of Hackney Road, Middlesex Co. (no such address in 1861 census).
Certificate number 6031502, per on-line Illinois Death Index, 1916-1950.
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_Solomon VICTOR _____|
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860|
| | __
| | |
| |_____________________|
| |
| |__
|
|
|--Virginia Rosalind VICTOR
| (1863 - 1935)
| __
| |
| _John DANSON ________|
| | (.... - 1860) |
| | |__
| |
|_Marion DANSON ______|
(1832 - 1916) m 1860|
| __
| |
|_Catherine POWERS ___|
|
|__
Besides his invention of a "logging engine", Walter had a variety of jobs. In 1900, he is listed in the census of Omaha, NE as a mail carrier. That census shows he came to the US in 1867 and was a naturalized citizen. (We now know that he arrived from Liverpool on the steamship St. George, arriving at Quebec on 23 jun 1868. Presumably his family moved to Wisconsin a few years later, for they are not found in the 1870 census there, nor in the 1871 Canadian census.) By 1916, he is in Seattle, listed as a painter, and carpenter (1917), and then a ship joiner (1918). By 1919, only his wife is listed in the Seattle directory. Not listed in San Diego directories, and no obituary there.
First mention of his occupation as US mail carrier is in the 1890 Omaha City Directory.
Locations between 1890 and 1933:
A search of deeds in Los Angeles County was informative:
A number of records were filed after the death of Walter Victor, including the final settlement among his heirs-at-law, 01 jun 1936: Bk. 14231, p. 62, case number 153236, estate of Walter M. Victor, divided equally among the three daughters Vervia M. Kidson, Hazel Bullock, and Gertruded McNutt, and the three sons Richard Victor, Robert Victor, and William C. Victor. Vervia Kidson was the administratrix. The property consisted of the SAME three lots for which Matilda Altwein had sued, Lot 122 of Tract 2573, Lot 1 Block 12 of Tract 1033, and Lot 76 of Tract 2467, all in Los Angeles Co., thus establishing that the Walter M. Victor of 11216 Budlong Ave. was in fact the same Walter M. Victor who had married Rose Reedy. A deed drawn up the next day and circulated among the heirs in the next few days reveals that William C. Victor was then residing in Battle Creek, MI, Hazel and Robert were in Seattle, Richard was in Fresno Co., CA, and Gertrude was in Los Angeles Co. (she appeared before notary Francis P. Grogan). The three lots, however, had been sold to the State of California by the Tax Collector of Los Angeles Co. in 1930 for a total of $49.23.
The lot in Tract 2573 is probably the site of his house at 11216 Budlong. On the current map for this tract, "Corinth Heights", it appears the street addresses have been changed since 1930.
In the lawsuit of Matilda Altwein, she states that she entered into a bona fide common law marriage about 9 years ago (thus 1921-1922), that they jointly obtained property, and that he fraudulently conveyed it to her. She sought $5,000 for services rendered (housekeeping at $10 per week) and asserted that $3,000 was the cost of Lot 122 (on Budlong Ave.). Walter admitted that she had kept house for him during the last 4 years, but that she was hospitalized twice, once for 10 days, and a second time for 3 weeks, and that he had conveyed to her 15 acres of property in Washington State valued at $150. The judge cited statute that she could collect for unpaid wages for only the last two years, deducted time during which she was sick and thus not keeping house, plus insurance premiums, doctor bills, and hospital costs, to arrive at the figure of $649.54 which Walter owed her. At least one document in the case file indicates that Walter Victor was out of the county at some time in 1931, and it is possible she never collected. She turned over the judgement to one C. C. Solter for collection, 08 oct 1931.
The estate file of Walter M. Victor says that Walter was "a resident of Los Angeles County" at the time of his death. The addresses of his heirs are given:
The first documents mention only the property on Budlong Ave., house and lot estimated at $400. Later, after a proper search of county records, the list of property is as cited above, and the appraised values of these parcels are $800, $25, and $500, respectively. A notice to creditors was published in The National Voice for several weeks from 14 nov 1935 to 24 jan 1936 (notice examined, does not give any details). The final report indicates that the estate was valued at $1,325 and was distributed as indicated above.
Certificate indicates death at San Diego Hospital, last residence at Salvation Army Hotel, 739 2d Ave., occupation as Paper Hanging & Paint Contractor. Much information incorrect; informant was the funeral director.
(Indigent?) burial at Mt. Hope Cem., San Diego, 06 oct 1933, then removed to Greenwood Cem. 21 oct 1933, where cremated and returned to Mrs. Vervia Kidson, signature of her husband Edward H. Kidson, Los Angeles.
Marriage was performed by James J. H. Reedy, father of the bride.
Listed in city directories as husband and wife, but no marriage found in Los Angeles Co. Lawsuit of Matilda Altwein in 1930-31 indicates they were not legally married, had "bona fide common law marriage" about 9 years.
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_Solomon VICTOR _____|
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860|
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|--Walter Moses VICTOR
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| _John DANSON ________|
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|_Marion DANSON ______|
(1832 - 1916) m 1860|
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|_Catherine POWERS ___|
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still living - details excluded
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________+
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860
_William Clinton VICTOR _|
| (1893 - 1981) m 1925 |
| | _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______+
| | | (1853 - 1941) m 1871
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| |_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _+
| (1851 - 1942) m 1871
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|--Warren Miles VICTOR
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|_Kathryn Ivera NOONAN ___|
(1894 - ....) m 1925 |
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_Solomon VICTOR ____________________
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________+
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860
_William Clinton VICTOR _|
| (1893 - 1981) |
| | _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______+
| | | (1853 - 1941) m 1871
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| |_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _+
| (1851 - 1942) m 1871
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|--Wayne VICTOR
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Besides the three named wives, he had another wife whose name is not known, between Molly and Kathryn.
Social Security Death Index: #709-12-6451, retired railroad employee.
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_Solomon VICTOR ____________________|
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860 |
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_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| | _John DANSON ___________
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| |_Marion DANSON _____________________|
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860 |
| |_Catherine POWERS ______
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|--William Clinton VICTOR
| (1893 - 1981)
| _William Michael REEDY _
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| _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______|
| | (1853 - 1941) m 1871 |
| | |_Mary Kerr RANKIN ______+
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|_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
(1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| _John MCDOUGALL ________+
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|_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _|
(1851 - 1942) m 1871 |
|_Elvira URAN ___________
(1812 - 1900)
She disappeared after visiting her brother Richard Victor in April, 2006. Her automobile was later found in a ravine in Butte Co., CA, but there was no body nor any evidence of foul play.
_Solomon VICTOR ____________________
| (1833 - 1880) m 1860
_Walter Moses VICTOR __|
| (1865 - 1933) m 1892 |
| |_Marion DANSON _____________________+
| (1832 - 1916) m 1860
_Robert Ingersoll VICTOR _|
| (1895 - 1984) m 1920 |
| | _James Jackson Hamilton REEDY ______+
| | | (1853 - 1941) m 1871
| |_Eulia Rose May REEDY _|
| (1877 - 1967) m 1892 |
| |_Carrie (Candace) Elvira MCDOUGALL _+
| (1851 - 1942) m 1871
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|--Wilma Lorraine VICTOR
| (1925 - 2006)
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|_Myrtle Dorothy PAGE _____|
(1901 - 1951) m 1920 |
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