possible daughter Le Chen
Female, #4110, b. circa 1270
possible daughter Le Chen|b. c 1270|p3647.htm|Sir Reginald Le Chen 3rd of Inverugie|b. c 1235\nd. b 6 Nov 1312|p1667.htm|Mary de Moravia|b. c 1245|p1668.htm|Sir Reginald Le Chen 2nd of Inverugie|b. c 1200\nd. 1293|p1663.htm|(?) Comyn|b. c 1210\nd. c 1260|p1665.htm|Freskin de Moravia of Duffus and Strabrok|b. c 1210|p1702.htm|Johanna (?) Lady of Strathnavir|b. c 1210|p1699.htm|
Possible daughter Le Chen was the daughter of Sir Reginald Le Chen 3rd of Inverugie and Mary de Moravia.
A possible additional daughter of Reginald le Chen and Mary de Moravia was mentioned in A. Y. Cheyne, The Cheyne Family of Scotland. He was referring to an opinion of another historian. The following is quoted directly from Cheyne, page 29.
The author of The Frasers of Philorth is of the opinion that another daughter of this Sir Reginald le Chen, le fils, by Mary de Moravia, was the wife of Sir Andrew Fraser of Philorth, Sheriff of Stirling, and he bases his opinion on the agreement of 1312, above-mentioned, between Mary de Moravia, Lady of Duffus, and Alexander, son of this Sir Andrew raser. Sir Andrew Fraser's wife had dower lands in Caithness between 1280 and 1290, [S. C. Shires. IV. 612 - Cal. of Docs. rel. to Scot. III. 340] and the author's argument is as follows [The Frasers of Philorth. I. 46.]: It was this Mary, Lady Duffus, who in her widowhood made the agreement (Robert I. 1312) with Alexander Fraser by order of Robert I. She was the wife of Sir Reginald le Chen before 1269 and a daughter of theirs might have been of an age to become the wife of Sir Andrew Fraser between 1280 and 1290 and might have received dower lands in Catania (out of her mother's lands of Strathnavir in Caithness) and if during the disturbances of that stormy period the part of Lady Mary's estate where this dower lands were situated had been lost or alienated by her, Alexander Fraser might have just claim on her other possessions in lieu of this inheritance, to which he had right through his mother but which it was no longer in Lady Mary's power to grant him: and as far as can be ascertained there is no other reason to be found for any such pretensions on the part of Sir Andrew's son. This view of the case may suggest a cause for the confirmation of the royal letters by David II in 1363, for the possessions of the last Sir Reginald le Chen, Lord Duffus, were divided amongst his daughters who were married about this time, when it is possible that some revival of the claims mat have been tried by Alexander Fraser's heiress Margaret and her husband, Sir William de Keith, the Marischal. Probably therefore Sir Andrew Fraser's wife, who had dower lands in Catania, was a lady of the family of Le Chen.1
A possible additional daughter of Reginald le Chen and Mary de Moravia was mentioned in A. Y. Cheyne, The Cheyne Family of Scotland. He was referring to an opinion of another historian. The following is quoted directly from Cheyne, page 29.
The author of The Frasers of Philorth is of the opinion that another daughter of this Sir Reginald le Chen, le fils, by Mary de Moravia, was the wife of Sir Andrew Fraser of Philorth, Sheriff of Stirling, and he bases his opinion on the agreement of 1312, above-mentioned, between Mary de Moravia, Lady of Duffus, and Alexander, son of this Sir Andrew raser. Sir Andrew Fraser's wife had dower lands in Caithness between 1280 and 1290, [S. C. Shires. IV. 612 - Cal. of Docs. rel. to Scot. III. 340] and the author's argument is as follows [The Frasers of Philorth. I. 46.]: It was this Mary, Lady Duffus, who in her widowhood made the agreement (Robert I. 1312) with Alexander Fraser by order of Robert I. She was the wife of Sir Reginald le Chen before 1269 and a daughter of theirs might have been of an age to become the wife of Sir Andrew Fraser between 1280 and 1290 and might have received dower lands in Catania (out of her mother's lands of Strathnavir in Caithness) and if during the disturbances of that stormy period the part of Lady Mary's estate where this dower lands were situated had been lost or alienated by her, Alexander Fraser might have just claim on her other possessions in lieu of this inheritance, to which he had right through his mother but which it was no longer in Lady Mary's power to grant him: and as far as can be ascertained there is no other reason to be found for any such pretensions on the part of Sir Andrew's son. This view of the case may suggest a cause for the confirmation of the royal letters by David II in 1363, for the possessions of the last Sir Reginald le Chen, Lord Duffus, were divided amongst his daughters who were married about this time, when it is possible that some revival of the claims mat have been tried by Alexander Fraser's heiress Margaret and her husband, Sir William de Keith, the Marischal. Probably therefore Sir Andrew Fraser's wife, who had dower lands in Catania, was a lady of the family of Le Chen.1
Citations
- [S148] Lieut. Colonel Archibald Ythan Cheyne, The Cheyne Family in Scotland, V. V. Sumfield, Eastbourne, 1931, Page 29.