RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb’s Weekly E-zine
Vol. 7, No. 11, 17 March 2004, Circulation: 841,312+
© 1998-2004 RootsWeb.com, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/
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Editor: Myra Vanderpool Gormley, Certified Genealogist
IN THIS ISSUE:
1. NEWS AND NOTES.
1a. “Updating E-mail Addresses:
Make It Easier for Cousins to Find You”
1b. Editor’s Desk: “Looking at the Home Arts: Cooking and Sewing”
1c. Upcoming Online Classes
1d. Tips from Readers: “Surviving a Computer Crash”
2. Connecting Through RootsWeb: “Patiently Waiting”
3. New RootsWeb Mailing Lists
4. New Webpages at RootsWeb
5. New/Updated FreePages and HomePages
6. New User-contributed Databases
7. RootsWeb Review’s Bottomless Mailbag: “Getting the Stories
Straight”; “Creative Genealogy”; “Rattling Skeletons in the
Closet”; “Telling Tales to Enumerators”; “Mysterious Stranger
Appears”; “Following Bread Crumbs”; “Posting GEDCOMs”;
“Brits Recorded Them Twice”; and “Official Records No Assurance of
8. Humor/Humour: “Funny Names Dangling on Family Trees”
9. Reprint and Submissions Guidelines; RW Help; Advertising Contacts
1. NEWS AND NOTES. 1a. Updating E-mail Addresses:
Make It Easier for Cousins to Find You
Chances are, at one time or other, you have posted messages on RootsWeb
mailing lists, message boards; uploaded a GEDCOM to WorldConnect, or
submitted surnames you are researching to the RootsWeb Surname List
Naturally, you’re hoping that someone will come along and find your
query or data and will contact you with additional information, break
down your brick walls, or inform you that she is your long-lost cousin
Winifred Wunderbar from Dubuque. (You know the cousin who inherited the
family Bible that your 4th-great-grandparents brought over from Germany
with them in 1807 that has all the family history meticulously recorded
in it—hey, we all dream!)
However, maybe some, or all, of those important queries and that
carefully researched data of yours were posted under an e-mail address
from which you are no longer able to receive mail. Cousin Winifred may
be tearing her hair out attempting to find you and, unless you have left
a breadcrumb trail or she is psychic, you are going to miss out on all
the information she wants to share with you.
Take time today to check the RootsWeb resources you have used over the
years and update your e-mail address or post new, updated information
that will enable your cousins to find you.
WORLDCONNECT. To update your address on a WorldConnect GEDCOM, start
here: http://wc.rootsweb.com/ or click on the FAMILY TREES tab at the
top of any RootsWeb page. Click on START HERE and type in your user
name and password for the account you wish to update.
If you don’t remember either or both, go to Password Central to obtain
the information: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/
or click on the PASSWORDS tab on any RootsWeb page.
After accessing the WorldConnect SET-UP page, find the box where your e-
mail address is displayed and change it. Then scroll to the bottom of
the page and click on: UPLOAD/UPDATE to submit the change. You do not
need to upload a new GEDCOM to change your e-mail address. If you have
more than one account at WorldConnect, you must make the e-mail changes
on each one. By following these instructions your existing GEDCOMs will
be reprocessed to display the change in options you have selected—the
updated e-mail address.
MESSAGE BOARDS. Updating your e-mail address is easy and can be
accomplished globally on all message boards at once—if you are a
registered board user. LOGIN on the boards, click on MY PROFILE, and
make the changes to your e-mail and post e-mail addresses. If you are
not a registered user, register now by clicking on LOGIN, and on
NEW TO ROOTSWEB—SIGN UP NOW. Register, using your OLD e-mail address.
LOGIN under your new account and update MY PROFILE as outlined above.
MAILING LISTS. You cannot update your e-mail address on old mailing list
posts but you can post a new message with your new e-mail address
(provided you are currently subscribed to the lists) on the lists where
you had previously posted under the old address. Be sure to include any
new information you have learned since you last posted a query on the
list and make note that your e-mail address has changed since then.
RSL. Instructions for updating your e-mail address can be found
on the RSL Edit page located here:
Click on: Edit existing researcher data, including e-mail address .
WEBSITES. Also, if you have a website housed at RootsWeb and your e-mail
address has changed since you set up your account you should inform
RootsWeb in case staff needs to contact you about your site. Drop a note
to: firstname.lastname@example.org (providing your old and new e-mail addresses).
So, if like most of us your e-mail address has changed at some point and
you have not updated your contact address scattered across various
RootsWeb resources, do it today. Don’t leave Cousin Winifred wondering
how she can reach you with the goldmine of information she has on your
Wunderbar family history.
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1b. EDITOR’S DESK. Looking at the Home Arts: Cooking and Sewing
FOOD. Why do they call it “corned beef”? How did Thomas Jefferson make
ice cream? What did the pioneers cook along the Oregon Trail? What goes
in the Cornish Pasty? According to Christopher Lean at Cornwall Online,
“It was once said that the Devil would never dare to cross the River
Tamar into Cornwall for fear of ending up as a filling in a Cornish
Pasty. For centuries the Cornish have been filling their famous pasties
with almost any ingredients that you would care to think of. The
traditional filling is, of course, beef and potato, usually with slices
of onion and swede mixed in as well, but the humble pasty can also be
found in a number of other guises. Popular fillings down the years have
included Egg and Bacon, Rabbit, Apples, Figs, Jam, and Egg and
See “Food Timeline” created by the Morris County, New Jersey, Library
for a fascinating look at food through the centuries, and some recipes.
SEWING. In the 1980s a gift of an old sampler was made to the Montgomery
County Historical Society in Fort Johnson, New York by an EVANS family
in next-door Fulton County. This year, the sampler will be celebrated
for the historical society’s 2004 museum season. The sampler was
embroidered by one Mary Ann PIERSON at the age of 10 and dated 1833.
More has been learned about her. PIERSON researchers may want to visit
the historical society’s website to see a photo of the sampler and learn
more about Mary Ann and her family.
Fort Johnson National Historic Site
The Mary Ann Pierson Sampler
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1c. UPCOMING ONLINE CLASSES: Each class is only $39.95 with a 30-day
subscription including Ancestry’s online census images. Instructors
cover eight lessons, two lessons a week. You can work at your own pace
on your own schedule. Prerequisite for all classes: A working knowledge
of computers (please view the Beginning Computer Genealogy course
outline to see if you know the basics). Details about all of the online
classes can be found here:
Native American Research Class. Starts March 25.
Eastern (and Central) Europe Basic Research Class. Starts March 31.
Family Tree Maker 11 Class. Starts March 31.
You must have Family Tree Maker 11 software prior to the start of class.
(Family Tree Maker is not compatible with a Mac system).
Beginning Genealogy Computer Class. Starts April 1.
Slovak Beginning Research Class. Starts April 1.
Learn How To Research Your Scottish Ancestry. Starts April 15.
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1d. TIPS FROM READERS.
Surviving a Computer Crash
By Lori Jett
Of course I back up all my genealogy files on CD-RW and keep them in a
safe place and send my mom a new copy on CD-RW periodically for extra
safety, but, I recently spent a month in Virginia helping my son and
daughter-in-law while she was expecting my first grandbaby. During this
time my husband (who stayed home to work) crashed my computer and took
it to a repair service where it formatted my hard drive.
He was hoping to fix my computer before I got home (like I wouldn’t
notice or something!) I had everything backed up except my favorites
list on Internet Explorer and my e-mail address book on Outlook Express.
Now, I did have a form I got free on Ancestry.com where I had written
most of the e-mail addresses of relatives and fellow researchers, but I
lost a few that had sent me a new e-mail address that I failed to change
on the form. And, I lost all the precious “Favorites” links that I had
found over the years.
Solution. I bought a small fat 5.5”x4” 200-page spiral notebook in
which I now write all my passwords and user IDs, e-mail addresses, and
website URLs that I come across. I also called my mom and had her give
me all the “Favorites” she had saved for genealogy (most of which I had
sent her when I saved them for myself) and added these to my book. I’m
sure I am still missing quite a few items but at least this will never
I just want to use my experience with this to warn you all now, it only
takes about 30 minutes tops to record all this info in a little note-
book. It can save you heartache and work in the future.
2. Connecting Through RootsWeb. Thanks for sharing your stories.
By Elaine Reschke
Two years ago I submitted an inquiry to a message board and six weeks
ago I got a response from a young man in Germany who was researching the
Since then we have corresponded by e-mail almost daily. We have been
helping each other with our research. He has added several persons to my
family tree and I have added a few to his. Although he is native-born
German, he writes quite good English. He has been a goldmine for me.
Message boards DO WORK, although sometimes it can take years.
3. New Mailing Lists at RootsWeb
Brand-new mailing lists can be found under OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS until
moved to their proper categories. For information and an index to the
more than 27,900 RootsWeb-hosted genealogy Mailing Lists and for easy
subscribing (joining) options go to: http://lists.rootsweb.com/
NEW SURNAME MAILING LISTS
ANDERSON-VA-GraysonCo—ANDERSON families that migrated into or out
of Grayson County, Virginia
DEIICHLER, DINSDALE, DUNKUM
HAJEK, HOROBIN, HOSEK
MEREDITH-IRISH—The Meredith surname in or from Ireland
NEW ETHNIC AND SPECIAL INTEREST MAILING LISTS
HISPANIC-SW—For Spanish/Latino/Hispanic surname research in the
PA-FAYETTE-OBITS—Obituaries pertaining to Fayette County,
PERSONAL-HISTORIAN-USERS—Personal Historian software by Gipsi
UNITED-BRETHREN—Genealogical discussions relating to the
United Brethren Church
WI-OrphanTrain—Orphan train riders to Wisconsin
(companion list to http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiorphan/)
NEW REGIONAL MAILING LISTS
ONT-HURON-DISTRICT—Huron District, Ontario, Canada
4. New Webpages at RootsWeb
Some of these webpages might not yet be accessible. They are created by
volunteers, so if one that interests you isn’t up yet, please check
again in a few days or next week.
Note that the ~[tilde] before the Web account name is required.
Example: The Craven County, North Carolina website can be found at:
englei2 -- Leicestershire (England)
engnth2 -- Northampton (England)
azscvgs—Sun City Vistoso (Arizona) Genealogical Society
cahsjgs—Hemet-San Jacinto (California) Genealogical Society
descgs—Sussex County (Delaware) Genealogical Society
flgssvc—Genealogical Society of southeast Volusia County (Florida)(Go There)
gagreen2 -- Greene County (Georgia)
gaspald2 -- Spalding County (Georgia)
indcpcc—Delaware County (Indiana) Pioneer Cemetery Committee
kycaldw2 -- Caldwell County (Kentucky)
kycritte—Crittenden County (Kentucky)
kyliving—Livingston County (Kentucky)
kylyon—Lyon County (Kentucky)
kymarsha—Marshall County (Kentucky)
mioscod2 -- Oscoda County (Michigan)
mtfoat—Friends of Old Agency on the Teton (Montana)
nccraven—Craven County (North Carolina)
okfhg—Friendship Historical Group (Oklahoma)
usorphns—Orphanages (United States)
vascvhs—Scott County, Virginia, Historical Society
vtlamoi2 -- Lamoille County (Vermont)
wlsmer2 -- Merionethshire (Wales)
5. New/Updated Freepages, Homepages, and WorldConnect Uploads
Note: Comments and questions about any of these independently authored
webpages should be directed to their respective compilers/webmasters.
When your new, updated, or substantially revised personal pages located
at RootsWeb (they will have “freepages” or “homepages” in the URL) are
up and ready for visitors, please send the URL (Web address), along with
a brief description, including the major pertinent surnames and what is
available on your site, to: Editor-RWR@rootsweb.com
KIDNEY. Tracking the descendents of John/Jan KIDNEY from Barbados
from the 1600s to the 1900s.
SOOTY’S HOME PAGE. Passenger Lists to New Zealand; some Pakeha
(European)/Maori names, New Zealand and World War I New Zealanders who
enlisted in London 1914, Te Puke, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand. Surnames
include: CAMPBELL, McCAIG, McQUARRIE—New Cumnock, AYR, Scotland;
GUTHRIE, MILLAR—Ochiltree, AYR, Scotland; COXON—Spondon, Derbyshire,
England; LEWIN-PUTTERILL—Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England.
ZEIMER. New discoveries about the descendants of William ZIEMER on
Chicago’s North Side and information and photographs from that branch of
the family have prompted updates to information on the ZIEMERS in
Chicago and the ZIEMER Family Photo Album, which includes never-before
published photos of the immigrant ancestors, Martin and Caroline ZIEMER,
an introduction to the North Side ZIEMERS, and a few historic photos of
ZIEMERs, POSTS, and VANSELOWS together in 1916.
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6. New User-Contributed Databases at RootsWeb
The following databases have come online recently. They are searchable,
but not browseable.
ENGLAND. 1891 Census: East Suffolk. Hollesley. The Colonial College,
77 records; E. Young
CALIFORNIA. Sacramento County. Hagginwood. Hagginwood Grammar School
Class of 1938; 61 records; Dr. K. Earle Cochrane
KANSAS. Sedgwick County. Old Mission Cemetery: Mausoleum Interment
Records; 2,135 records; David G. Stuart
TEXAS. Wichita County. Wichita Falls. Midwestern State University,
2003 Indians’ Football Team Roster; 90 records; Jane Engbrock
7. FROM ROOTSWEB REVIEW’S BOTTOMLESS MAILBAG
[Editor’s note: The opinions expressed herein are those of the
authors and are not necessarily those of the editor or of
Getting the Stories Straight
By Marvin S. Barger
I see many comments about dates and other information being reported
differently, one researcher from another. However, there is another even
larger problem than that. To prove it to yourself, get one male and one
female from the same family to write about their grandfather and
You will hardly know they are the same person, especially if the time
period covers the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s.
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By Jim Hopper
My 2great-grandmother Hopper was Elizabeth (Unknown) Hopper, wife of
Livingston HOPPER, who was born about 1810 in North Carolina and died
before 1880 in Claiborne County, Tennessee.
Several years ago a fellow HOPPER researcher informed me that
Elizabeth’s maiden name was BREWER. When I ask where she had found this
information, she cited page 27 in a book titled “Descendants of Isaac
Wilson, Country Doctor,” by Gaines and Sonja WILSON. Mrs. WILSON was
a professor at a college in Kansas City, Kansas. The locality of the
book was Wilson County, Tennessee.
A quick search for the book didn’t turn up a copy I could read so I e-
mailed the professor at the university for information but never
received an answer. When I ask my informant if the book gave a source
for the fact that Elizabeth’s maiden name was BREWER I was told it did
not. I went online to various message boards and other online groups
interested in this HOPPER line and stated that Elizabeth’s maiden name
could have been BREWER and gave a disclaimer which stated where, when
and how I received the information.
Very soon thereafter most of the people who had information online about
this HOPPER line started showing Elizabeth’s maiden as BREWER with no
explication as to how they reached that conclusion. I still show
her as Elizabeth Unknown, (Brewer?) in my database.
Could she have been a BREWER? Yes, because there were plenty of BREWERS
in Claiborne County, Tennessee at that time. Her daughter, Mary Jane
HOPPER, married Mahlon BREWER.
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Rattling Skeletons in the Closet
There isn’t a horsethief in my husband’s family. But we had always heard
the story of his great-grandfather as somewhat of an heroic figure.
Grandma said her father had been a Chicago policeman and was shot during
the 1886 Haymarket Riot. He died a few days later.
We were all enthralled with this story so I was shocked when I called
the Chicago Police Department to confirm that indeed his star was
enshrined with others of policemen who had been killed in the line
of duty. I was told that he had never been in the police force. The
friendly department archivist suggested I look in newspaper accounts of
the time, which I did, and never found anything that would confirm the
Sometime later I sent for great-grandpa’s death certificate. The death
date was three years different from what we had been told, but coincided
with the fact that Grandma was only nine years old at the time of her
father’s death. What really shocked us was the cause of death: Great-
grandpa was shot in a fight by J. O’ ROURKE, who most likely was his
brother-in-law. Great-grandma was Maggie O’ROURKE and she had a brother
We later obtained the coroner’s report and indeed, Maggie was a witness
at the hearing. What really confirmed that this indeed was great-grandpa
was when we contacted the cemetery where he was buried and was informed
that the owner of the gravesite was grandma.
Did the family really know the truth all this time? Grandma is dead,
and all of her children are gone, so no one is alive to deny or confirm
[Editor’s Note; The Chicago Public Library has more on the Haymarket
Riot, including pictures:]
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Telling Tales to Enumerators
By Gabrielle David
While I love the information found in censuses, and have spent countless
hours searching for relatives in them through years, I always take the
information found with a grain of salt.
We’ve all had family members grow younger, as my great-grandmother Eva
HUNTOON did. But how many other lies are there? I suspect some were told
about citizenship, and I’ve noticed birthplaces change—perhaps
because the informant didn’t know, but didn’t want to say so, or the
enumerator told them just to guess. There must have been a temptation to
lie about the value of possessions and maybe even occupations.
I know a man and his wife who, feeling the census was an intrusion, took
great delight in claiming vastly different ethnic backgrounds than their
own and fabricated other information as well. This wasn’t in 1880 or
1930, it was in 2000. I feel sorry for their descendants.
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Mysterious Stranger Appears
By Elaine Oakes
I have an extra person in the family tree. The 1930 U.S. census shows a
youngest daughter in my mother’s family, named after my grandmother. I
was very surprised and asked my aunt, who said there was no such person.
I have enough family photos and other information that if she had
existed there should have been at least a hint.
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Following Bread Crumbs
By Kathleen Wagner
Genealogists are taught to be as specific as possible when citing
sources; full publication facts down to the page number. With the growth
of the Internet, the amount of material now available and Web authors
copyrighting their material, I think we have to change our style of
sourcing. I use a “bread crumb” source style: Visit the Theroff Files
by Paul Theroff at http://pages.prodigy.net/ptheroff/
or “New Hampshire 1732 Census, Jay Mack Holbrook, 1981” or “Join the New
England Historical Genealogy Society at www.nehgs.org.”
I want researchers to know that I have found info at these sources, but
check it out for yourself. Every source has to be evaluated by the
individual researcher. If someone copies my info, they are only passing
on my clue. I am happy to leave some “bread crumbs” for other
researchers. I have a copy of the book or have a printout of the Web
material, so I know what page number, etc., is cited in that source and
have judged the reliability for myself.
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By Sherril Scott
My GEDCOM is a work in progress—are they ever finished? There
is always another yet to be found ancestor out there somewhere. We all
start most of our research with little more than a name. I enter a name
into my family tree when I make the connection, then I start my
research. Sometimes I find documentation, sometimes I don’t. But the
name remains in my GEDCOM until I can find the data to back it up.
That’s my way of keeping track of what I need to work on, and what I
thought was the purpose of my GEDCOM files.
For the folks (new and veteran) who are being intimidated and criticized
by all those “other” genealogists I can’t tell you how important it is
to post your GEDCOM in a place like RootsWeb. I posted my GEDCOM on
RootsWeb’s World Connect about a year ago, just as a backup location
for my file. Shortly after I posted it, my computer crashed, and I lost
all of my files. Without my posted GEDCOM, I would not have been able to
recover my valuable family history, and all my years of work would have
been lost to me. I would have had to spend a great many hours trying to
reconstruct all that was lost.
For those folks that complain about “name collections” I’ve gained a lot
of information from other folks just by reading a list of names, and
then brainstorming with another researcher to fill in those blanks. Not
to mention all those nice people I have met! So my thanks goes out to
everyone who posts what they have, with or without complete
documentation. For those who are not willing to share their research,
you’re missing out on all the fun!
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Brits Recorded Them Twice
By Alex Dow
If the contributor (“Timing Is Everything”) has the opportunity of
looking at the 1881 British census, she will find that many of the
inhabitants are also recorded twice. Typically, there are minor
differences such as:
12 High St
High Street, Number 12
Maggie Mc Donald
Margaret Mc Donald
etc., but clearly referring to the same persons.
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Official Records No Assurance of Accuracy
By Chuck Harthy
In assembling family histories/genealogies even reliance on official
records is quite often inaccurate. Many years ago while working in a
county clerk’s office, the deputy asked why I spent so much time in the
birth records—they were open at that time. She commented that “half
the kids in this county were caught in a fence row!”
I was shocked to hear the comment, but found out later that there was
some truth to her comment. One of our town’s prominent citizens—long
since deceased and no descendants—was sired by the hired man because
his father was incapable due to a Civil War injury
While working on one of my families, one of the cousins would not give
me information. I finally asked my father why she was reluctant.
Apparently, she and her sisters were sired by the hired man at the
insistence of their “father.” The records indicated a conventional
situation. And, I just completed work on a family in which several
children were “conceived without formality.” In two instances, two
children were born with different men as the biological father.
My point being, careful research and documentation does not necessarily
assure accuracy in the development of our genealogy. Phil Albro’s
article, “Evidence and Proof,” should be required reading for anyone
working in this great hobby of ours.
8. Humor/Humour: Funny Names Dangling on Family Trees
Thanks to: Connie Trier
Recently I found my 2great-grandfather in the 1850 census. John MYERS
had been eluding me for a year, and I thought I had tried all the
spelling variations, but I had missed one. John MIRES was working as a
farm laborer just a page away from his future bride’s family.
Today while searching for another elusive ancestor I came across the
surname CHRYSJONSON. How many CHRISTIANSONS would look for that
spelling? It seemed to be a quirk of the census taker, because other
persons were listed with the given names of Chrystopher and Chrysjon.
Some fun names I’ve found while searching were: Orange Grove M. McCOMPY
and a 21-year-old wagonmaker named Redhead BOLLARD
9. Submission Guidelines, Changes, Advertising Contacts, Reprint Policy
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the editor regrets that she is unable to provide any personal research
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editor. See subscription change instructions at end of this newsletter.
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