with Everett Porter (son of Jasper, son of Alex, son of Andrew J. Porter)
Track 1 (timer 25:40)
Jim: Ya he preached too, for a while.
Jim: He made a bad
JC: What mistake did he make?
Jim: After my mother died, he just went off. He lost his good sense. He just didn’t have no reason. Even Uncle Alick (Alex Porter, son of AJP) came to talk to him, and he couldn’t do anything with him.
Jim: Yes he did.
Jim: It was awful, a fellow that could preach like he could talk. He was good.
Jim: Ya he was good at it. He went all over the country preaching and talking.
Jim: Ya, Uncle Steve. But he just got out and got in worse all the time. He even got to drinking.
Jim: Ya he did. It’s the truth I reckon. I won’t lie about it. He used to talk against whiskey. Ya, he got to
drinking. I tried to get him away from
JC: Did your dad ever get straightened out before he died?
Jim: Well he quit drinking. I know that. He quit that. I was over there a time or two to see him. He lived with that old woman. He know’d she wasn’t no account. He know’d her like a book. That a man would let somebody pull them in that way. It’s a mystery.
It’s a mystery. We couldn’t do nothin with him. You may have just as well talked to a mule.
Jim: My Dad had the pistol?
I told Dad (Jasper) “Don’t you ever get me in a scrape like that any more, I didn’t know nothing about that. We could have every one got killed there.”
Jim: You know my Dad
thought that people ought to hold up for him, and they didn’t do it. You know they wouldn’t. He was thought well of by people around
Jim: When my mother died, he just went plum off. My mother was an awfully good woman. She was the only girl in the family, the Catrons.
JC: What did your Dad finally die from?
Jim: I think it was Bright’s Disease, and Uncle Alick died right after that, Harlan (son of Alex, s/o AJP) told me. I had forgot about that.
Jim: Same thing. They
both went to
JC: What did your uncle Steve die from?
Jim: He went to
JC: He moved up there by himself?
Jim: Well he married another woman, Uncle Steve did.
JC: Oh he did?
JC: Who was she?
Jim: I believe she was an Evans. She was married to Drew Evans.
JC: Where is Steve’s first wife buried at?
Jim: She was buried
JC: Oh he moved out
Jim: He didn’t take
her (2nd wife) back. Some way
or another, she got sick and went back to her people, and Steve went back to
JC: Did any of his
kids move out to
Jim: Uncle Steve had children there… Charlie Porter.
Jim: Ya. Charlie, course he is dead. Charlie was here once, back __________.
JC: I wonder where they lived in
Jim: I think it was
close to Antigo. Bryant
or Antigo, one. You’ve heard of
Jim: That’s all I know. Bob Porter (s/o Levi, s/o AJP) went up there.
Jim: He stayed there a long time.
JC: Who’s Bob?
Jim: He is Levi’s
boy. He is buried out here on Brown
Ridge, out here just from
JC: Is that where Levi is buried too?
Jim: No. Uncle Levi is buried over there by his home someplace.
Jim: Harold and Uncle Levi took care of Arthur when he died. He was young, but I don’t know how young. Uncle Levi took Harold, and just kept him, and he brought him to stay all night several times at out place.
Everett: Dad stayed with him, (Arthur) till he died.
Jim: Harold did too didn’t he?
Jim: No. But I’ve heard tell of him. He was a rough one wasn’t he?
JC: What did Levi die from?
Jim: Well he died over there at home, I reckon.
JC: From old age?
Jim: I think he died
with old age. See, he didn’t get no pension, because he was on the side that got
whooped. Till Woodrow
Jim: Ya, he passed a law, and Levi started getting his pension.
JC: You say they crossed the Little Sandy River when they came to KY?
Jim: Ya, I think they crossed the Little Sandy River, that’s
what caused them to get to Stark. They
lived there I don’t know how many years.
That’s when my grandmother died and they buried her up on the hill. We went there once to the cemetery. We went down to Uncle Jim Porter’s
place. Me and Ellet,
Bill (sons of Jim, s/o AJP) and my sister
JC: You never heard
them say why they came here? (from
Jim: I guess so. You know that war was bad in old
JC: Were the Catrons pretty well to do in
Jim: Well I don’t
know how well to do they was. The best I could find out, they just made a
living. I guess it was tough cause that war went on for four year, you know. I’ve read a lot about the Civil War. These old War veterans like Mace Day, we had
a bunch of them here at
John French and Flem Ross.
Jim: Ya, they are all dead. Mace Day used to be bad to pick at a feller. Well he know’d Uncle Levi. They was big friends. They would meet up here at Hogtown. He was always pulling off some kind of a joke or stunt on somebody.
JC: What kind of a man was your dad?
Jim: Well my dad wasn’t much for joking after ________________?
JC: He wasn’t?
Jim: No. He wasn’t.
JC: He was pretty
Jim: Ya. And Uncle Levi didn’t seem to be much for joking either.