Lost Colony Genealogy and DNA Research Group Newsletter  

5-13-2009

 

Have you noticed that things just seem to be popping in our project?  We haven’t had a lot of messages lately on the list, but we’ve had a lot of people researching and making lots of headway.

 

Dare Records

 

The big news in the past few months has been the huge, and I do mean HUGE, strides that Nelda has been making.  She found an original record pertaining to Ananias Dare’s estate, and I think that whetted her appetite for more.  Take a look here to see the original.  http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molcgdrg/sur/2d/adare1.htm

 

Imagine how thrilled Nelda was to receive this in the mail in Missouri.  And imagine her frustration when she realized it was in LATIN, not English.  At that point, Andy came to our rescue and had some of his acquaintances in England translate the record.  Nelda expected an entire page of translation, and what she received was more like a paragraph.  For the translation, look here… http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molcgdrg/sur/2d/dcourt5.htm

 

The next time I looked at the Dare surname, I found many new things.  For example, Chancery records beginning in 1386.  No, that’s not a typo….it’s really 1386.  This is unbelievable, truly stunning to me, given that Nelda isn’t in England and can’t do research in person.  This is now possible today because of the microfilmed and online records that were never available before.

 

I’m going to ask Nelda to put together a “How to Research English Records from America” document and we’ll be asking Janet and Penny to post it on our blog as well as on the website.  Every one of us who is a member of this project has an interest in the English surnames (or we wouldn’t be a member of this project) and each one of us can do the same thing for our surnames as Nelda has done for Dare, and now others as well.

 

We are very fortunately to have Andy’s assistance.  He is the Deputy Mayor of Bideford, although if all goes well, he’ll be the Mayor by tomorrow evening, and he has had a lifelong interest in the Lost Colonists.  As you know they sailed from Bideford which was the hub of shipping in that timeframe.  Many of the colonists and their families, as well as the men who financed the trips and some of the captains, such as Sir Richard Grenville, lived in Bideford. 

 

Andy reviewed what Nelda found in the Dare records and confirmed that indeed, there are two fairly distinct Dare groups in England.  Hopefully, as things progress, we’ll be able to narrow our focus more, obtain DNA tests from both families, and make continued progress.  Speaking of continued progress….Andy is now chasing down a rumored birth entry for Ananias Dare.  If this does in fact exist, it will confirm for us which Dare family is Ananias’s, and which Dare family we need to bring forward in time to test.

 

Stay tuned for more. 

 

 

Colonist Family Locations

 

Andy was kind enough to prepare for us a list of the locations where the colonist families are thought to be from in the British Isles.  Take a look at the chart here… http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molcgdrg/faqs/asum.htm.  Does this fit with anyone’s genealogy?

 

 

Welsh Surnames and Research

 

In addition to working with Penny on our blog, Janet is one of the admins for the Wales DNA project.  Both David Beers Quinn and Dr. Powell felt that some of the colonists were Welsh.  Janet graciously prepared a paper about the Welsh, the surnames, how to spot a Welsh name and Welsh research.  I certainly learned a lot that I didn’t know before.  Check it out here…

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molcgdrg/faqs/welsh.htm.

 

 

William Powell’s Papers

 

After much searching, I finally found all 3 of Dr. William Powell’s papers dealing with the Lost Colonists and his many year journey to unearth information.  Dr. Powell is quite elderly now, and I’m sure were he to know about the records we can now retrieve online and through microfilm that he would be quite envious.  He spent several months, up to a year at one time, in England researching the original records.  Now of course, there is a great deal to be said for on-site research, but it isn’t always necessary today.  However, I’d love to see the churches and the locations with such colorful names as Fleet Street and Blackfriar’s Lane. 

 

His last paper seems to summarize what his earlier work unearthed, but I surely wish we had specific information.  Anne is in the process of determining whether or not his notes have been donated to the UNC or the State Library and Archives.

 

For the relevant portions of his papers pertaining to the colonists, see the link on our site at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molcgdrg/faqs/bsum.htm and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molcgdrg/faqs/bsum2.htm.

 

 

The Berry and Lowry Families

 

Speaking of Anne, she tells me she’s going to have to retire to have enough time to work on all the Lost Colony things coming her way.  Her job is interfering with her project work….and I agreed with her. 

 

Anne of course is continuing to document oral histories, but in addition, she has been working very hard on the Berry and Lowry families.  These families have very specific oral histories that deal with being descended from a very specific Lost Colonist, Henry Berry.  These oral histories have been within these families since long before the colonists’ surnames were published or on the internet.  She is working with the families to obtain the genealogy, and of course, hopefully, the DNA samples, to help with the proof of this long held family story.

 

If you have Berry or Lowry in your family tree, please get in touch with Anne and provide her with anything you might have that will help her connect the dots.  croatan@peoplepc.com

 

 

The Berry and Payne Families

 

Recently, we had quite a surprise to discover that we have not one, but two DNA matches between the Berry and Payne families. Now of course, nothing can ever be as simple as it seems.  These two matches don’t match each other, so we have two separate sets of matches. 

 

We’re working with the surname project administrators of both the Payne and Berry families in order to upgrade the participants to see if these matches hold.   With the new Family Tree DNA upgrade prices, this might be the time to get that done.

 

What we really need though, is solid research in England to isolate which Berry and Payne (or perhaps Pyne/Pine per Andy) families are the ones associated with the Lost Colony.  If you have any interest in either of these surnames, please consider doing an English records extraction for these like Nelda has done for the Dare surname.

 

 

Where Have All The Indians Gone?

 

One time my mother asked me “Can’t you just answer the question I asked?”  I guess the answer to that must have been “no”, because I always have trouble boiling things down to a simple answer.

 

Andy asked me to prepare a “status paper” on the Lost Colony Research, and about the same time, the editor of the Journal of Genetic Genealogy (www.jogg.info/) asked if I would write something for the journal.  Of course, we need all the exposure we can get, so I said yes to both of them and set about to write a short paper. 

 

Well, 79 pages and several weeks later, it is finally done, or at least I think it’s done.  I don’t know how many of you folks have ever published anything in an academic journal, but let me assure you that by the time the review process is complete, and all of the peer reviewers have given feedback and you attempt to make them all happy….you never want to see your paper again.  At first it was enjoyable and at the end, you’re referring to it as “that #@*!# paper”.  My family refers to it as “the thesis” and I think my thesis was easier, in fact, I know it was.  The editor asked me to please modify my citations to “contemporary styles” and I had to admit to him that the last time I wrote an academic paper…..it was on a typewriter with correctype and White-Out. 

 

Suffice it to say, it’s been an adventure but an old dog can indeed learn new tricks…and the paper will be published in 2009.  As soon as it is, Janet and Penny will be blogging it and Nelda will put it on the site as well.  It’s actually a very informative paper and holds some new information for us….but that will have to wait until publication.  The full title is “Where Have All the Indians Gone?  What We Know and What We Don’t about Native American Eastern Seaboard Dispersal, Genealogy and DNA.” 

 

 

Virginia Dare’s Birthday Faire in Manteo

 

Once you do something twice, isn’t it considered a tradition?  In that case, we’ll be visiting Fort Raleigh in Manteo as we traditionally do on Virginia Dare’s Birthday on August 18th, 2009.  Virginia will be celebrating her 422nd birthday and this year will be our 3rd year to help her celebrate. 

 

Anne is spearheading this event again this year.  I believe Jennifer will be joining us as well, again, as well as at least two other project members.  You don’t have to come and work the table with us all day, but if you can visit, it’s a wonderful event.  It’s not highly publicized, which makes it quaint and not swamped.  The local people know about it, but most others don’t. 

 

The cast of the play is in costume all day and various “events” are taking place on the grounds.  The cast intermingles with the visitors and it’s just a wonderful, relaxing, fun day for all.  And yes, Virginia Dare always has a birthday cake.  I believe the Queen cuts it for her as well. 

 

Our role in the event is just to talk about our project.  Nelda arranged for a banner to be made last year and thanks to several people’s efforts, we have brochures and handouts that Nelda created as well.  I’ll have DNA kits there for anyone who is interested too.

 

After the fun events of the day, the cast gives one last presentation of “The Lost Colony” outdoor drama www.thelostcolony.org and ends their production season.  Anne and I always attend. It’s a tradition, of course. If you can make it, we’d love to have you. If you need hotel info, please contact Anne and she can give you some suggestions.

 

There is just nothing like standing where the colonist stood….words just can’t describe it.

 

 

Buxton Research

 

Do you want to follow the colonists trail?  If so, Buxton is the next stop on the journey.  Buxton is where the colonists are believed to have gone after they left Roanoke Island.  Many artifacts have been found after storms that lead archaeologists to believe that the colonists may well have settled here, at least for some time.  Whether it was colonists themselves or the men in Ralph Lane’s 1585-86 expedition, the English were indeed here with Manteo’s people.  This is the location where the Kendall crest ring was found.

 

The local people descend from the Hatteras Indians and have maintained the tradition that they descend from the colonists as well. 

 

After attending Virginia’s birthday party, Anne and I will be researching in Buxton. 

 

Want to stay where the colonists lived?  An avid genealogist, researcher and author, Scott Dawson recently bought a hotel on the land where the colony is thought to have resided.  He has even created a museum room showing many of the finds on his property, which you can see if you play the video at his website.  www.thecroatoaninn.com/

 

Scott’s book, Croatoan: Birthplace of America, is available from Buxton Village Books. Send an e-mail to bvb2@mindspring.com and in the body of the message, request this book by title. Cost is $16.00 + shipping. 

 

Here’s an interesting article by Scott as well…. http://www.coastalcarolinaindians.com/special/100507_Dawson.htm

 

 

Genealogy Data

 

Most of you have provided genealogy data to go with your DNA kit.  I’m still waiting on a few.  In the last newsletter I mentioned we were going to focus more specifically on the families who are from the eastern seaboard, in particular eastern NC or who are of Native American heritage or Lost Colony oral history.  We have, for the most part, achieved this goal.  Our project is somewhat smaller now, but in the project we have people who are somehow connected to this area of this project and it’s a much more relevant group. 

 

The behind the scenes work to maintain this project is not trivial at all and takes several hours a day if you add the volunteer work done by all of the various volunteers together. 

 

Blog and Websites

 

I just want to take a minute to remind those who might not know about our blog at http://www.the-lost-colony.blogspot.com/.  It’s a wonderful resource and Penny and Janet do such a good job.  Thanks to both of you talented ladies.

 

In addition, Penny maintains our website at Family Tree DNA. www.familytreedna.com/public/lostcolonyydna.  Hopefully this task will become easier once Family Tree DNA introduces their new tools for administrators.

 

At the Family Tree DNA public site, individuals can visit and manually compare their results.  Since people now have to request to join and show a genealogical or geographical link of some sort with the area, we have more people visiting this site to see if they match anyone in our project.  Most people seem to think we’ve found the colonists and don’t realize we’re still looking. 

 

And of course our website that Nelda maintains for us is here…http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/index.htm.   Nelda does a wonderful job with our site.  There are several thousand pages now…not bad for 2 years.  Please check out your surname and see if there is anything you can add.  Besides, you never know what has been submitted by others unless you check periodically.

 

 

DNA Upgrade Sale – Hot Off the Presses

 

I just received word tonight that DNA upgrades are on sale at Family Tree DNA May 14-23rd.  This isn’t for new orders, but for those who have already tested and have been considering upgrading.  If this is you, this is their once-a-year sale….so the perfect time to order those upgrades.  The sale prices are listed on the Upgrades tab on your personal page.

 

 

Signing Off

 

We hope to see you this summer in Manteo, but if not, I hope you have a wonderful summer wherever life takes you….and wishing you some genealogical miracles too!

 

Roberta Estes  

 

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