John Fred HOLDER Family
My Holder family came to the United States in
about 1880 from Germany. John Fred Holder was born
February 2, 1859 near Stuttgart, Germany and his wife
Wilhelmina Bauer Holder was born February 20, 1856. They
were married in Kircheim, Germany prior to coming to the
United States. They first made their home in Missouri,
probably near Westin, Platte County. Their first child
was Carrie Holder. She was born in 1881 in Missouri.
Other children born in Missouri was Fred in 1882, John in
1886 (my Grandfather), Katie in 1888, Leta in 1891,
George 1892 and Nellie in 1894. David was born in
Oklahoma in 1896, Cora was born in 1899 in Oklahoma and
Esther in 1902 in Oklahoma. The family lived in the
Altona township in the far South west part of the County.
My Grandfather, as a young boy, only spoke German in the
home. He attended school through the fourth grade, but
this was probably in Missouri. There are family stories
about the Holder children going to the river and trading
blankets for turtles with the Indians. I'm not sure who
had the blankets or who had the turtles! Family lore is
that the father, John Fred Holder was very mean to his
children. My Grandfather left home at the age of 14 in
about 1900. He either remained in, or returned to
Kingfisher however. He married Myrtle Ivy Smith in
Kingfisher February 12, 1908. His older brother Fred
Holder had married Myrtle Ivy Smith's older sister
Margaret Lee Smith in Kingfisher in about 1902. Fred
Holder and Margaret Lee Smith may have had several
children born in Kingfisher. Robert Henry Holder in 1903,
Katie Holder in 1905, Lola Holder in 1908 and Helen
Holder in 1909. John Thomas Holder and Myrtle Ivy Smith
Holder had a baby named Leta McElvain Holder born in
The two Holder boys who married Smith sisters moved in
1909 to Roy, Harding County, New Mexico with their Smith
wives and the Smith family. They lived in New Mexico
until about 1920 then moved to Texas, around Abilene.
Fred Holder's family ended up in Wichita, Sedgwick
County, Kansas. John Thomas Holder's family lived in and
near Abilene, then to Enid, Garfield County, Oklahoma.
The Holder's who remained in Kingfisher stayed until
about 1920. Then they moved to California. John Fred
Holder died in Redwood City, San Mateo County, California
in 1948. Wilhelmina died in Santa Clara California in
It is likely that most of the Holder children married in
Kingfisher. Carrie, born in 1881 would have been 15 when
the family moved to Kingfisher. She married a Rudolph
Wilson, probably in Kingfisher. No other information
about Carrie or Rudolph is known. Katie Holder married
Pete Weber (Webber) in Kingfisher in 1910. No other
family information is known. Leta Holder married a J. E.
Hudson probably in Kingfisher. She died in Fresno,
California in 1950. George married a Myrtle ? and he died
in Santa Cruz
California in 1972. Nellie Holder married Arthur Frazier,
probably in Kingfisher. Nellie died in Shreveport in
1986. David Holder married Clara ?, probably in
Kingfisher. He died in a plane crash in about 1955. Cora
Holder married L..J. Jones probably in Kingfisher. She
died in Shreveport in 1994. Esther married Clint Nelson.
Possibly in Kingfisher. She died in Shreveport in 1992.
This page was last updated on March 22, 2004.