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Blacksmith Entries

W9662

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Form A

Circumstances of Interview

Federal Writers' Project

Works Progress Administration

OREGON FOLKLORE STUDIES

Name of worker :  Sara B. Wrenn Date March 20, 1939

Address : 505 Elks Building, Portland, Oregon

Subject: Blacksmith entries - Mt. Tabor M.E. Church - Old time verse.

Name and address of informant:  Mrs. J. I. Kisaberth 4828 S. E. Kelly St., Portland, Oregon.

Date and time of interview:  March 16, 1939. Afternoon

Place of interview: Above address, home of informant.

Name and address of person, if any, who put you in touch with informant :  Miss Mary Agnes Kelly, 2945 S. E. Franklin St., Portland, Ore.

Name and address of person, if any, accompanying you : --

Description of room, house, surroundings, etc. :  Living room, filled with many things, but with an atmosphere of use only on special occasions. Among the clutter of pictures hanging high on the walls were divers and sundry engraved diplomas, certificates, etc. A fire, lighted as the interviewer entered, was burning in the fireplace, despite which there was a chill in the air. The house itself --of a story and a half-- is of the common square type of some 30 years ago, with a veranda along the front, its setting the ordinary city lot of 50 by 100 feet, on a slight grading above the street, with houses of similar type in the neighborhood.

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Form B

Personal History of Informant

Information obtained should supply the following facts:

1. Ancestry : Father, Jos. D. Lee; Mother, Eliza Alice Witten. English-Scotch-Irish stock.

2. Place and date of birth : Age refused.

3. Family : Husband, J. I. Kisaberth. Two sons, Joseph Lee and Vernon.

4. Places lived in, with dates : Always lived in Oregon.

5. Education, with dates :  Public schools; one year in Willamette University; business college.

6. Occupations and accomplishments with dates :   Y. W. C. A. secretary for a number of years.

7. Special skills and interests :   No special accomplishments or skills. Interested in music and education.

8. Community and religious activities :    President local P.T.A. Member Methodist church. Has taken part in various civic undertakings and local kindergarten.

9. Description of informant :     Medium height, slender, with dark eyes and hair; quiet and somewhat reticent.

10. Other points gained in interview :   A person interested probably in all that pertains to her home and community, but difficult to interview, although cordial.

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Form C

My grandfather, Mother's father, Joshua Ewing Witten, came to Oregon in 1852, and his donation land claim adjoined that of Clinton Kelly. Grandmother Witten knew a good deal about nursing, and she was busy ministering to the sick coming across the plains, for that was the year when cholera attacked so many of the immigrants. Grandfather was a blacksmith by trade. He was very active in the first church hereabout, that of the Methodist church at Mt. Tabor, where he was the first class-leader. Here is the record he used to keep of what they called the "East Portland Class," which, as it shows, was formed on January 26, 1853. It shows: "C. S. Kingsley, Preacher in charge

Thos. H. Pearne, P. E. (Presiding elder I think that means)
Clinton Kelly, Chm.
Witten
Nelson
Kerns
Gilham
Crisswell
Richey

These names I suppose were those who signed up for the class. The same old record shows that on December 30, 1855, a number signed a resolution, which you can copy:

"All the undersigned do resolve by the permission and assistance of All Mighty God to read the Old and New Testament Scriptures through during the year 1856.

(Signed) S. Nelson
Hillary Cason
N. D. Gotham
M. Kelly
Mary E. Cason
C. Starr
J. E. Witten
Eliza J. Witten"

I guess people read the Scriptures through a lot more in those days than they do now. Grandfather and grandmother were both interested in music. The roads were muddy and many of the roads were trails through the woods, but grandfather would bundle grandmother on a horse and off they would go to lead a singing school. Sometimes it would be in homes and other times in the little rude [schoolhouses?]; but there weren't many of the latter. It was mostly in the different homes.

As I said, grandfather was class-leader at Mt. Tabor church, and here is an entry he made in which you may be interested: "Remember the Friday preceding each quarterly meeting as a day of Fasting or abstinence prayer." He seemed to keep a pretty good check on his members too, for here he says: "Let this book be marked regularly. P for present. A for absent. E for excusable. S for sick. D for distant."

I am not sure about this, but I am under the impression from what I remember that the Section Line in grandfather's time was called the Witten Road; chiefly because that was where he had his blacksmith shop, and the people who came there called it that. They used to come and bring their horses to be shod and their wagons to be mended, and their plows and almost everything.

Their wives and families would come along too and spend the day. Grandmother used to complain that the visitors ate up all the profits they got from the patrons, let alone the work it made for her. Grandfather's profits couldn't have been very great, judging from these items in his old day book, in 1855:

Making 2 bolts for wagon .50  

 1.00

Cart hinges  

.25

Shoeing horse and mending hammer  

 1.25

Here is an old copy book of my great-grandmother Witten's when she was a girl, and some of the verses in it. They are all a little gloomy:

"My soul come meditate the day,
And think how near it stands
When you must quit this house of clay
And fly to unknown lands."

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"Soon must I bid a long adieu
To life and friends on earth
My nineteen years grows verry few
My number from my birth."

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Form D

Extra Comment :

Anything of a folklore nature seemed sadly lacking here, so the interviewer took what she could pertaining to church history in Mt. Tabor community, thinking it might be of some value, particularly that relating to vows and resolutions.

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