|SweGGate Research Project||Anders Johan* THUNWALL||ID 0014|
out on 1884-03-29 from Grönhögen
town in VENTLINGE sn leaving for
Denmark. Continues from Denmark to N America on 1885-05-19.
unmarried, travelling w/o family.
Ref: HFL AI:6, page 104.
|The following family is reg. out on 1880-05-14 from Grönhögen town in VENTLINGE sn leaving for N America. Ref: HFL AI:5, page 96|
|??SSON LANTZ, Johan Gustaf||1840-03-03, Algutsboda||see below|
|LUNDGREN, Christina* Helena||1844-01-01, Ventlinge||see below|
|LANTZ, Anna Ingeborg||1865-02-25, Ventlinge|
|LANTZ, John Albert||1868-04-23, Ventlinge|
The THUNWALL Family in Sweden
|Farfar||Johan Magnusson||1798-12-16, Myrsjö|
|Farmor||Maja Joensdotter||1794-07-11, Skeda|
|Farbror||Sven Johan Johansson||1824-02-04, Hult (F)|
|Farbror||Jonas Peter Johansson||1826-08-10, Ingatorp|
|Farbror||Anders Magnus Johansson||1828-10, Ingatorp|
|Far||Carl Gustaf Johansson||1831-05-04, Ingatorp||see below|
|Farbror||Johan August Johansson||1836-11-06, Ingatorp|
|1819-06-20||1874-11-28||Family lives in Grönhögen town in VENTLINGE sn 1861/65. Moves within Grönhögen 1865|
|Mormor||Anna Christina Andersdotter||1812-01-07, Ålem||1883/94: Anders Johan lives with her in Grönhögen town. Ref: HFL AI:6, page 57.|
|Mor||Ingrid Maria Lundgren||1841-04-08, Nybo, Ventlinge||Moves to Kalmar 1862-11-06. Returned 1863-11-07. Marries Carl Gustaf Thunwall and moves to him in Ottenby Nov 1863.|
|Moster||Christina* Helena Andersdotter||1844-01-01, Nybo, Ventlinge||see below|
|Far||Carl Gustaf Johansson Thunwall||1831-05-06, Västra Ekås, Ingatorp (F)||1871-05-15||Married 1863-10-19|
|Mor||Ingrid Maria Lundgren||1841-04-08, Nybo, Ventlinge||see above|
|Bror||Carl THUNWALL||1864-05-24, Ås||1864-05-28, Ås||dies only 4 days old|
|Syster||Maria Theresia THUNWALL||1866-01-24, Ås||twin|
|Anders Johan* THUNWALL||1867-12-22,
|1905-01-04, USA (S1)||Emigrates 1884 above|
|Bror||Carl Albert THUNWALL||1870-10-31,
|Svåger||Johan Gustaf ??sson Lantz||1840-03-03, Ingemundehult, Algutsboda||Emigrates 1880 above|
|Svägerska||Christina Helena Andersdotter||1844-01-01, Nybo, Ventlinge||Emigrates 1880 above|
|Anna Ingeborg||1865-02-25, Ventlinge||her illegit daughter, father unknown. Emigrates 1880 above|
|John Albert||1868-04-23, Ventlinge||her illegit son, father
possibly dr L M Nilsson from ?ag?? in B??inge.
Emigrates 1880 above
The Family in America
This table will soon be replaced by a dynamic family tree
|Anders Johan* THUNWALL||1867-12-22, Ås||1905-01-04, USA (S1)||more above|
|Karolina Nilsdotter||Humlehult, Kristdala||early||Married in Dec 1888 in USA. (S1) see project 22|
|Ernest Bernhard Roy* TUNWALL||USA||(S1)|
|Carl* Sherman TUNWALL||1897, USA||Marilyn's father. (S1)|
|Mildred Caroline TUNWALL||USA|
|E B Roy TUNWALL||USA||when son was 13 y o||2 children|
|Carl* Sherman TUNWALL||1897, USA||1970, Moline, IL|
|Carl* Sherman TUNWALL||1897, USA||1970, Moline, IL|
|Gertrude* Maria Mueller||1901, IA||1972, IA|
|John William ("Jack")||1926, USA||2002-08|
|Helen Marilyn*||--||see below|
|Carl Sherman Jr||USA||Married, 4 children|
|Raymond Mittelstadt||Fam lives in Storm Lake, IA|
|Helen Marilyn TUNWALL||--||3 children|
was born on Dec 16, 1798 in Myrsjö.
He moves in to Hult sn (F) from Alsheda sn (F) in 1821
Marries Maja Joensdotter on Nov 6, 1822 in Hult sn (F).
Their first son, Sven Johan is born on Feb 4, 1824 on Lillahem farm in Hult sn (F), bapt. Feb 8 with these god-parents:
Anders Jansson, ibid, Samuel Hörqvist i Ebbarp, hustru Greta Pettersdotter i Lillahem, pigan Stina Håkansdotter
The family moves in to Västra Ekås village in Ingatorp parish from Hult parish in 1824. July 14, 1826 ?
was born on July 11, 1794 in Skeda.
Fr Bogård t Hult 1822
cont'd above (husband)
captain) Anders Lundgren was born on June 19, 1819.
He marries the 7 years older Anna Christina Andersdotter (born 1812-11-07 in Ålem) probably around 1840. They live in Grönhögen town in Ventlinge parish, quite appropriately since Grönhögen has a harbour for the boat captain Anders.
Their first daughter, Ingrid Maria, is born on April 8, 1841, baptized on April 11. On New Year 1844 their second daughter, Christina Helena is born and baptized on Jan 6.
In 1863 their oldest daughter Ingrid Maria marries C G Thunwall and moves to Ottenby in Ås parish. Their youngest daughter has two children without being married but lives with her parents until she marries in 1873. Their grandchildren are born in 1865, -66 -67, -68 and -70
On Nov 28, 1874 captain Anders Lundgren passes away. At least he got to see his family grow up, both his daughters get married and meet 5 grandchildren. Unfortunately he also lived to experience his son-in-law C G Thunwall die quite young in 1871.
In 1880 his widow Anna Christina is noted as "sickly". She then lives with her "dotterson" Anders Johan. Maybe he moved in with her since she was alone and his own father was dead since long. Who is supporting who - or is it mutual ?
((I still don't know the death date for his mother))
On Nov 17, 1882 a new note is made for her and Anders Johan (no reason given).
|Ingrid Maria Lundgren
The daughter Ingrid Maria lives in Kalmar (on the mainland) 1862-11-06 to 1863-11-07 but on Nov 3 1863 she moves to Ottenby in Ås sn on the southern tip of Öland after marrying the 10 year older stalldrängen (stable hand) Carl Gustaf Thunwall on Oct 19 - cont'd below (husband)
|Carl Gustaf Johansson Thunwall
was born on May 6, 1831 in Västra Ekås village in Ingatorp parish in mid-Småland province. He was baptized on May 8 with these godparents:
Peter Ericsson i Skälljaryd, hustru (=married woman) Stina Nilsdotter, ibidem (=same place).
(See birth record here)
At some point in time he moves to
After 3 years of service he marries
Ingrid Maria Andersdotter Lundgren, the daughter of a boat
captain in nearby Grönhögen.
|Anders Johan* Thunwall
was born in Ås parish on Dec 22, 1867. His father carried the name of Thunwall too but died already when Anders Johan was only 3 years old. At some point, before April 1876, he moves north to the next parish, Ventlinge, a short distance of about 5 km. He appears in the family of Captain Lundgren in Grönhögen, noted as "Anders Johan, son of Thunwall", registered in Ås parish. There is no note saying why he moves in here but I assume that his mother had a very hard time being alone with 3 small children.
He receives a certificate to work in Mellby (Segerstad sn) on April 12, 1876. Another work certificate is dated Feb 18, 1878 probably to Åtvidaberg in Östergötland province (E).
On Nov 17, 1882 he moves to Ottenby in Ås sn, a few km south, where his mother's sister Ingrid Maria lives.
On 1884-03-29 he registers out from Grönhögen leaving for DENMARK. He is only 16 years old at the time but still leaves without his family. At the time he lives with his mormor so maybe he was an orphan ? His father had died already in 1871 when he was 3 years old.
It is worth noting that four other young boys leave almost at the same time - listed above. They are all very young and travel without families. One of them is an orphan, born in Stockholm. Many orphans from Stockholm were sent to foster families on Öland in those times.
After almost a year in Köpenhamn (the capital of Denmark) he continues his travel to N America on 1885-05-19 (HFL 1884).
In the USA he spells his name John
Tunwall - possibly since "Th" is pronounced quite
differently in English. He marries Karolina Nilsdotter
from Humlehult, Kristdala sn (H) in the USA in Dec
|Christina Helena Lundgren
While still unmarried and living with her parents in Grönhögen Christina Helena has a daughter, Anna Ingeborg, on Feb 25, 1865. Three years later, on April 23, 1868, still unmarried, she gives birth to a son, Johan Albert. The birth book is missing but a (hardly legible) note in the HFL of 1861-70 states, quoting the birth book, that a dräng (farm labourer) named L M Nilsson has asked to be noted as the father. His residence is noted but is illegible.
On Nov 20, 1872 she moves to Kalmar. Her daughter, Anna Ingeborg moves to Kalmar in 1874, nine years old.
On March 16, 1873 she marries the labourer Johan Gustaf ??sson Lantz, b 1840-03-03 in Algutsboda sn (H). He moves in to Ventlinge from Vissefjärda sn (H) on April 10, 1875. Both then live in Grönhögen. A strange note states that Christina's son John Albert is moved to her new family with Lantz on 1878-02-16. Did he really stay with this morföräldrar 5 years after his mother had married ?
This family, J G H Lantz, wife Christina and her children Anna Ingeborg and John Albert, emigrates to N America on 1880-05-14.
|Johan Gustaf Lantz
was born on March 3, 1840 in soldattorpet (soldier's croft) in Ingemundehult in Algutsboda sn, Kalmar county, son of the soldier Sore (?) Lants and his wife Lena Gunnarsdotter. Witnesses at his baptizm on March 8 were hemmansägaren (farm owner) Johannes Jostensson and his wife Lovisa Jonasdotter from the same village and drängen (farm hand) Carl Gustafsson and Dina Sara Petersdotter, both from Fiskesjö (5 km WNW of Algutsboda village). The first name of his father is hard to read. Birth record original (C:5, p 9)
Origin of the surname Thunwall
Emigration of Anders Johan Thunwall
Current research tasks
|Read original HFL for emigration||Hae||Done|
|Clear up confusion between Anders Johan Thunwall and John Albert, b 1868-04-23||All|
|Emigration record from Köpenhamn|
|Arrival in USA||Janice|
|Ship - passenger records||Janice|
|Re-write narrative (continuously updated)||Hae||ongoing|
|Find descendants of
Anders Johan's siblings if any
Maria Theresia (1866) and Carl Albert (1870) found in Ottenby AI:6 (1871-81). Have read all of Ottenby, Ås pp 77-116 in AI:7 (1882-94) nothing there
Not in Grönhögen, Ventlinge AI:6 (1883-94) either pp 94-111
|Find C G J:son Thunwall to, in and from Stockholm - will be extremely difficult.|
|Confusion between Anders
Johan Thunwall and John Albert, b 1868-04-23
We must prove this either way
|Missing birth book for Ventlinge (except 1837-48) makes it very hard to find people|
|Find parents of Carl Gustaf Johansson Thunwall.||Hae||03-06|
|Narrative changed !!||Hae||02-21|
|Found family of
Båtskepparen Anders Lundgren, wife Anna
parents of Anders Johan's mother, Christina Helena Andersdotter. All siblings found in generation I and II.
|Find parents of Anders Johan||Hae||02-21|
|Read original HFL for emigration||Hae||02-19|
|Identification of primary person (John Albert Tunwall)||...|
|Reply (F Hae):
Suggested the above Anders Johan Carlsson Thunwall
1 Birth date and name are exact matches except for the "Albert" name. This may be a mis-reading / mis-registration. Must be checked !
2 Birth parish and county matches your "suspicion".
3 Emigrates in time to get married in the USA in 1888 and has the age for it
4 Emigrates through Denmark - that is why he is not on the Emigranten CD. This is not uncommon for people from Öland since it was easier to sail to Denmark than sail to the mainland and travel on land across. The bridge was not built until mid 20th century
|Janice's query to
Sweden mailing list:
"I am hoping to find out when this (John Albert Tunwall) person left Sweden for the US. Suspect that he came in 1885 from Ahs/As, Kalmar, Sweden area. He was born 22 Dec 1867 and d 4 Jan 1905 in US. Believe he was still single---we have him being married in Dec 1888."
|Time spent, 4+6+9+2||Hae|
|Öland||Island of the SE coast of Sweden. More info|
|Map section of southern Öland|
|All the following parishes are located on island Öland in province Öland, Gräsgård hd, Mörbylånga kommun, Kalmar län (county) unless otherwise stated.|
|Ås||Parish on the southern tip of Öland.|
|Ventlinge||Parish on the SW coast of island Öland, NW neighbour of Ås parish.|
|Grönhögen||Small harbour town in Ventlinge sn.|
|S Möckleby||Parish on southern Öland. Central town: Degerhamn. Located north of Ventlinge sn|
|Swidby||Village in Ventlinge sn, located 3.1 km E of Grönhögen town. Today spelled Svibo.|
|Seberneby||Village in Ventlinge sn, located 3.7 km ENE of Grönhögen town. Today Södra Sebberneby.|
|Nybo||Farm in Ventlinge parish, located 1.1 km SE of Grönhögen town|
|Ventlinge Malm||Place in Ventlinge sn, located 1.1 km NE of Grönhögen town. Today registered only as a nature name.|
|Ottenby||Parish on the southern tip of Öland. Ottenby stuteri is located here. more|
|Segerstad||Parish in SE Öland.|
|Mellby||Village in Segerstad parish, Öland, located 9.7 km ENE of Degerhamn..|
|Åtvidaberg||City in Åtvid parish, Östergötland län and province (E)|
|SMÅLAND - Kalmar|
|Kristdala||Parish in Oskarshamn kommun, Kalmar län (H), Småland province. MAP|
|Humlehult||Torp under Systertorp farm in Kristdala parish, 4.3 km S of Kristdala village. Also named Stampa.|
|Algutsboda||Parish in Emmaboda kommun, Kronobergs / Kalmar län, Småland province.|
|Ingemundehult||Soldier torp in Algutsboda parish, abt 6 km NW of Algutsboda, close to Fiskesjö.|
|Vissefjärda||Parish in Emmaboda kommun, Kalmar län (H), Småland province.|
|Ålem||Parish in Mönsterås kommun, Kalmar län (H), Småland province. (on the east coast)|
|SMÅLAND - Jönköping|
|Ingatorp||Parish in Jönköping län (county) abt 30 km east of Eksjö city. Abt 60 km NW of Kristdala parish. MAP.|
|Västra Ekås||Village in Ingatorp parish (F), 5.7 km NNW of Bruzaholm.|
|Hult||Parish in Eksjö kommun, Jönköping län, Småland province, abt 10 km E of Eksjö city.|
|Skälljaryd||Farm in Hult parish, 4.8 km NW of Bruzaholm. Today spelled Skälaryd.|
|Myrsjö||not yet positively identified. May be Myresjö parish in Vetlanda kommun, Jönköping län, Småland province.|
|Skeda||probably the parish in Linköping kommun, Östergötland län and province (E)|
|Dödringshult||Village in Ingatorp parish (F), 7.1 km NNW of Bruzaholm. (very close to Västra Ekås).|
|Lillahem||Farm in Hult parish (F), 3.9 km NE of Hult church. Today Lillahemmet.|
|HFL-||HFL (clerical survey), Ventlinge fg (H), Ås fg (H), Algutsboda fg (H) (parish)|
|CD-E||Emigration police records (Emigranten CD)|
|S1||Janice Danielson, query on Sweden-L, Rootsweb mailing list, Feb 19, 2003|
Other (unrelated) persons emigrating from area
|OLAUSSON, Per Enock||1866-06-10||Reg. out on 1884-04-12 from SWIDBO in VENTLINGE sn leaving for Köpenhamn, Denmark.|
|HULTÉN, Carl Gustaf Helge||1868-08-02||Reg. out on 1884-04-12 from VENTLINGE MALM in VENTLINGE sn leaving for Köpenhamn, Denmark.|
|CARLSSON, Janne||1864-11-26||Reg. out on 1884-05-12 from VENTLINGE MALM in VENTLINGE sn leaving for Köpenhamn, Denmark.|
|PETERSSON, Janne Wilhelm||1865-08-11||Reg. out on 1884-04-18 from SEBERNEBY in VENTLINGE sn leaving for N America.|
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