October 29, 2009 Remember to begin reading this transcript from the bottom to the top! FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:59:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: If all else fails, try using your word processing program to merely type the answers and save those separately. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:59:54 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I don't have a brick wall yet for next week so hope someone will send me something soon! It's getting to be that time again. Next week we'll be on standard time again - I dread turning back all these clocks Saturday! I'll grab the transcript and post it now. See you all next week! Goodnight all. FROM: Charles on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:59:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: nite all FROM: Joy on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:59:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: night FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:59:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Carolyn, Did you try deleting the extra letters? FROM: jerryt on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:58:51 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Time for me to go. Good night. FROM: Charles on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:57:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I have downloaded some pdf files that allow you to fill in the blanks, but warn you that you can not save the changes to your computer. You can print it out with the changes FROM: Carolyn Ellertson on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:57:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat: I had not attached it yet for email purposes. FROM: Carolyn Ellertson on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:56:49 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat: the blank document that is in the attachment is still there, as well as in the new file I made for it, but when I use my open file feature, there are some with the right name with a bunch of letters preceding the file name. When I try to open it anyway, it tells me I can't. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:54:36 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Carolyn, had you already attached that document to an email that you're sending? If so, you should be able to find it in your sent file. If it was in an attachment in an email you received, you should be able to "save as" again because it will still be there, unless you told it to delete! FROM: Carolyn Ellertson on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:54:20 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy: I don't have any trouble finding the blank document that I downloaded from the attachment. It is only after I fill it out and then save that it dissappears. I can't remember if I saved it before or after I filled it out. FROM: Joy on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:52:26 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: You can save it from the email again... and watch where it puts it FROM: Carolyn Ellertson on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:52:17 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good point Charles! I've tried every search possible, and it doesn't even turn up. There were 22 essay type questions for a job app. I've redone them at least twice, and given it a new name, but then cannot pull it back up. I've used all my advanced search options and everything. Very frustrating! FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:52:12 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Carolyn, What was the name of the document? FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:50:42 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Carolyn, Did you try searching for the document in a different folder than you predicted? Some of mine get whisked into a different location on my new computer. I do have good search and Find boxes now. FROM: Charles on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:49:43 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: if your software is too old it probably would not have opened it in the first place FROM: Carolyn Ellertson on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:47:28 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hey computer techies: If I open and save a word document to my computer that is in an attachment on an email. Could it dissappear into a black hole if my software was enough older than the attachment? I lost a valuable document today that I'd worked hours on. FROM: Carolyn Ellertson on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:44:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi All. I'm very late, so I'm just lurking and seeing what you're up to.. FROM: Charles on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:44:24 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: snowed most of the day, but melted as soon as it hit, got just over .1 in my rain guage FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:43:17 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Charles - did Spokane end up with an accumulation of snow today? Linda said this a.m. that Coulee City was getting some and it was maybe going to continue much of the day. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:41:58 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Charles and Carolyn FROM: Charles on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:41:22 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: and Jerry also FROM: Charles on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:41:04 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Nancy Carolyn, Steve, Pat and Joy FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:40:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hey Carolyn - glad to see you, too. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:40:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Carolyn! FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:40:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Charles - we're discussing the three brick wall postings tonight and trying to help the people solve some of their questions. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:40:30 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Charles! FROM: Steve on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:34:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: On brick wall #2, one of the familysearch.org entries on Cornelius Cook points to LDS CD #138, Pin #1073500, and lists his parents as Neal Cook and Ann _____. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:32:34 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I think it only makes sense that Loren Eugene Wood and his wife were divorced and she didn't want their son to ever have anything to do with him so raised him to believe his father had suddenly vanished. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:29:42 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: He could have filed in another county, such as Pacific, if he was living there. Joy found my dad's divorce from his first wife in King County where she was living - he was living in Clark County - but she did the filing. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:24:38 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Lewis County Clerk's office Divorce records part of Civil Indexes until 1983. On computer, 1983-present. Divorce index, 1893-present FROM: Joy on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:24:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Don't know. Hawe to check the Washington State Archives pages FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:19:20 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I think the person researching Loren Wood should try to find divorce records for the couple about 1926, possibly in Lewis County, WA. Joy - would these be in the archives? FROM: jerryt on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:13:03 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Name: Lawrence Wood Age in 1910: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902 Birthplace: Washington Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Name: James T Father's Birth Place: Missouri Mother's Name: Lucy V Mother's Birth Place: Illinois Home in 1910: Clinton, Whitman, Washington Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age James T Wood 52 Lucy V Wood 46 Lewis A Wood 21 Ruby E Wood 17 Effie M Wood 15 Elvin E Wood 12 Lawrence Wood 8 FROM: Steve on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:08:42 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: On brick wall #1, the entries at familysearch.org for Sophia Clara Hartman show her born in 3 different states, and some have "of" indicated, which typically means they haven't a clue. FROM: Steve on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:04:30 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: And the SSDI lists a Loren Wood, b. 13 Jan 1903, d. Oct 1977. FROM: Joy on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 3:00:26 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I wish we could ask this person questions... like are they sure his name was Loren Eugene Wood. How sure are they of the 1904 birthdate? Could it have been Lawrence? Did they assume "Eugene" because that was the son's middle name? There's a Lorin H Wood in the WWI draft registration, born April 8, 1895, (living in Portland and Working as a railroad fireman for the Pennsylvania railroad Co, (Employed in Indianapolis IN) born in Yacolt, Washignton FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:48:38 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I saw that marriage license, too, Jerry. I was hoping the 1925 marriage license from Lewis county was online so the signatures could be compared. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:47:33 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: It's possible Loren and his wife were divorced and she told the son he had disappeared. If she remarried in 1930, that wouldn't have been enough time to declare him dead legally, would it? I remember reading years ago that it took seven years. I'm taking this from memory about my mom's first husband. The two boys were told their dad was dead until he suddenly reappeared about 25 years later. They were divorced in late 1928 probably. If he hadn't shown up and introduced himself, his sons would never had known he was still alive. FROM: Steve on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:47:10 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: On brick wall #1, the http://www.heritagepursuit.com website has history books on Cincinnati, but I have not been able to locate any records on Sophia Hartman or her father. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:42:28 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Loren E Wood - Delphine C Delaware - King Marriage Records Record Series: Marriage Records County: King groom's name: Loren E Wood bride's name: Delphine C Delaware recording date: marriage date: 3-10-1944 FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:41:42 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi folks, Sorry, I was napping. I'll try to pay attention now. FROM: Joy on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:39:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: .... Harry GALLOWAY (14) or Hallie J. GALLOWAY (8), son of William S. Galloway and Caroline Patton, born 1 (14) March 1881 (8,14) Aurora (14) Oregon, (8), died 8 Sept 1948, age 67y 6m 7d (dr, near Elma, Grays Harbor Co., WA (dr), buried in Elma IOOF cemetery (13), married first .... Lula Josephine WAGNER dau of Joseph H. and Etta M. WAGNER (36,37), born 23 Nov 1885, W.T. died 19 June 1908 (14). interred Elma IOOF cemetery (14). He married second .... Josie MILLER, dau of Frank and Lizzie B. MILLER (30), born 24 Dec 1890 (ssdi), Olive TN (30), died as Josie LAVENDER (30) 6 Jan 1979 (di) at Oakhurst Conv. Center, Elma, WA (30), also buried in Elma IOOF cemetery (14). He had 2 daughters by first wife who were reared by her parents after her death and an adopted a son, with second wife. ..Children: ....i. One still living (2003), married first Loren Eugene WOOD and had Harold Eugene WOOD, born 11 Jan 1926 Centralia, Lewis Co. WA, died 6 July 2003 Grays harbor Co., WA (30). She divorced before 1930 (31) and married second, Frank GOOD (30), probably Frank J. GOOD, born 4 Nov 1894 (ssdi) Switzerland (31), died 2 Feb 1975 Aberdeen, Grays Harbor (di) living Cosmopolis (ssdi). ....ii. Edith Mary (14) GALLOWAY, born 30 Sept 1906 (ssdi), died 19 Aug 1995 Centralia, Lewis Co. WA living in Chehalis (di), interred Claquaton Cem. west of Chehalis WA, married FAY (14). ....iii. Frank Galloway (adopted), living in Belmont CA in 1979 (30), perhaps born 9 May 1934, died 27 Nov 1999 Santa Clara Co., CA (di) living in San Francisco (ssdi). ..References: ..... 8. Federal Census, 1900, Oregon, Linn County, Shelburn, page 71, 8-43-1-29 (Caroline Galloway). ..... 13. Federal Census 1930 Oregon Multnomah Co., Portland ED 4 sheet 3B (Claude W. Galloway, age 40). ..... 14.. E-mail May 2003 from CF. ..... 30.. Obit from Aberdeen World and Whiteside Undertaking Service in E-mail July 2003 from CF. ..... 31. Federal Census 1930 Washington Pacific Co., North River ED 23 sheet 5B page 76 (Harold E Wood in home of Frank Good). ..... 36. Federal Census 1900 Washington Chehalis Co., Vesta twp. ED 2 sheet 3B page 114 (Joseph H. Wagner). ..... 37. Federal Census 1910 Washington Pacific Co., Smith Creek twp. ED 165 sheet 27B page 254B (Joseph H. Wagner). FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:37:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I see the records from Lewis county aren't on the WA Digital Archives site yet. I can't even find his marriage to Etta May in 1925. FROM: Joy on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:36:25 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I can't even find him as a child with his parents in 1910 FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:35:51 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Interesting - how can a person just disappear? Surely his wife must have had him declared dead at some point after never hearing from him. FROM: Joy on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:33:42 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I can't find Loren Wood on any census FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:24:47 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: In looking at the second query, it appears to be too long ago to find any records on Internet yet. Possibly church records from that era might help to find his parents in 1701. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:20:02 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Nancy must be busy this evening - maybe on the phone with an Elder relative. Hope she found some new cousins this week. FROM: Joy on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:17:29 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:15:34 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Joy - glad you could join us this evening. Do you have any ideas about that Loren Wood disappearance? FROM: jerryt on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:14:53 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Joy FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:07:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: The weather this year is weird all over the country. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:07:02 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: It is supposed to be in the 60s on Saturday. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:05:46 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: We have had snow the last 2 days. Just a trace at my house, but 18inches up in Denver and up to 4 feet in the mountains. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:05:31 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I heard from our daughter this a.m. and she said it was beginning to snow in Coulee City, WA - big flakes and coming down fast. They're about 100 miles west of Spokane. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:04:29 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jerry - are you wading in snow in Colorado yet? FROM: jerryt on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:03:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Pat and Steve FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 2:00:04 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: There is a marriage for Loren E. Wood in Seattle in 1944. No middle name and no dates available but it's a possibility that he just dropped out of sight and then decided he wanted to make it legal with a girl friend. FROM: Steve on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 1:57:25 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: One would think that even if he had disappeared with hunting, etc., then something would have appeared in the news. A missing person report or investigation by a police agency would help. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 1:53:30 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I did hear from Ron Adams in California and he said Loren Wood isn't any of his kin - he has a lot of Wood relatives. Seems funny that he could just vanish. Several possibilities - unhappy marriage; bad accident such as a car running off a cliff; railroad accident, etc. But surely there were some stories in the papers about his disappearance. My aunt's friend (and possible father of her son) was killed in a railroad accident in 1934 when he was squashed between two railroad cars. There were stories about it. FROM: Steve on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 1:48:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: However, I don't recall that we found Loren Wood in any records after he disappeared. FROM: PatB on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 1:44:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Steve - I was just looking at the Ancestry posting - looks like they've been searching for Sophia Clara's mom for a long time! I didn't check the past postings when I posted the Loren Wood brick wall. Those were the last three in that long list of brick walls and I was lucky to get them all posted! FROM: Steve on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 1:42:41 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Didn't we already do the Loren Eugene Wood brick wall back on 10 Sept 2009? FROM: Steve on DATE-Oct 29, 2009 1:39:10 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Sophia Clara Hartman http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hartman/94/mb.ashx?pnt=1 FROM: Pat on DATE-Oct 23, 2009 13:16:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Just checking to see if these posted so they are readable. Number 3 is really going to be interesting! See you Thursday night. FROM: Nancy & Pat on DATE-Oct 23, 2009 13:15:49 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Nancy Elder Petersen and Patricia McKee Bauer, along with several regular visitors, will be staffing the GenChat room beginning about 6:45 p.m. Thursday evening. We close the door about 9:00 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time. We have visitors who will give you a willing helping hand with your genealogy brick walls. You can enter questions or answers at any time but we hope you will be able to join us when we are open for discussions. BRICKWALL PROJECT: Here are the last three queries from the Marysville Genealogy Group: 1, Seeking the mother of Sophia Clara HARTMAN b 05 Dec 1797 in Cincinnati, Hamilton Co OH; her father was John Konrad HARTMAN. Sophia m. Bartholomew T. MATHER 20 Aug 1819 in Cincinnati and d 10 Feb 1875 in Washington, Pettis Co MO. 2. Seeking the parents of Cornelius COOK b 1701 in Westborough, Worcester Co MA. He m. Eunice FORBUSH 22 Aug 1727; Eunice was b. 13 Feb 1705. They lived in Carrol Co NH. There was another Cornelius COOK living in NH at that time; MY Cornelius had ch: Jonathan, Robert, Daniel, Cornelius, Stephen, Eunice, Mary, Thomas, Sarah and Lydia. They were all born in Westborough MA between 1727 and 1743. 3. Searching for Loren Eugene WOOD who disappeared abt 1926 in Lewis Co WA; he was living in Centralia at the time. Loren was b abt 1904 in WA and married Etta May GALLOWAY 19 Oct 1925 in Pe Ell, Lewis Co., WA. In 1925 they were residing in Frances, Pacific Co, WA. Loren was a railroad worker. Their son was born in 1926. Loren's parents were Jim WOOD and Mary E. PRATT, both born in WY. Neither his wife nor son (both now deceased) ever heard from him again. Please click on the "log-out" button (lower right) before you leave. Meanwhile, you can see our past transcripts with the link below: Past transcripts: www.rootsweb.com/~waccgs/p3424.htm