December 27, 2007
Remember to begin reading this transcript from the bottom to the top!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:56:46 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Looks like we might as well call it quits for this evening. I hope you all have a very Happy New
Year. We'll see all of you NEXT year. Goodnight all.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:55:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I heard from my daughter in Coulee City and she said it began snowing this afternoon and they
have accumulated 3 to 4 inches already and it doesn't look like it's going to stop any time soon.
Oh fun.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:55:24 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Will see you all next week!
Gnight all!
FROM: Verneice on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:51:23 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I only have 40 left to go. I got a Christmas card from Ireland and didn't know that there was
anyone there that I know. It was from Tom's youngest nephew of his brother. I already feel better.
We have snow about 1000' and The Dalles is sea level and we are at 500'. Suppose to get about
1-2" tonight. Real big-Maybe get to 3-4" but will warm up and go away by mid afternoon.Good
night Jim!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:49:55 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Gnight Jim!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:49:45 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Goodnight Jim - and Happy New Year to you, too. I hope you can be with us next week/next
year!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:49:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
For Judy,
When I clicked on the name BANGER
I got the Google map which shows
the road to Belfast.
FROM: Charles on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:49:20 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
nite Jim Happy New Year
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:48:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Good night everyone. Wish you all a Happy New Year and much success in your genealogy
research.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:48:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I'm sure Judy will read the transcript as she knew you were still working on the project Nancy.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:48:12 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Another webpage for the church:at
http://www.ballygilbert.co.uk/home.htm
Welcome to Ballygilbert
Situated about 3 miles from Bangor on the main road to Belfast, Ballygilbert Presbyterian Church
is a vibrant and welcoming church with a bright and comfortable environment for worship. A
large reception area creates an informal atmosphere where people are able to meet before and
after services. An excellent suite of halls provides facilities for a wide range of other activities. We
are a Fairtrade Church. Take a look around our Gallery.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:46:53 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
When/if Judy reads the transcript:
Using Google.com for "BALLYGILBERT"
County DOWN
found:
Ballygilbert Presbyterian Church
at
http://www.ballygilbert.co.uk
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:45:31 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Do you have a lot of snow in the gorge Verneice?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:43:26 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Another LDS entry:
John Quartz Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
About 1825 Of Ballygilbert, , Down, Ireland
Christening:
Death:
About 1901
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:43:13 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Wow Verneice - that's a bunch. It's a hard way to do it but I hope it helps you feel better.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:42:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1881 census in Canada
Household:
Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace
Occupation Religion
James QUARTZ M Male Irish 32 Ireland Ship Stuard C.
Presbyterian
Susan QUARTZ M Female Irish 22 Nova Scotia Roman
Catholic
James QUARTZ Male Irish 4 USA C.
Presbyterian
Christopher QUARTZ Male Irish 1 Nova Scotia
Roman Catholic
Source Information:
Census Place Ward No. 2, Halifax, Halifax, Nova Scotia
Family History Library Film 1375804
NA Film Number C-13168
District 9
Sub-district B
Division 2
Page Number 56
Household Number 254
FROM: Verneice on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:41:08 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I've lost 60 #s Pat just so you won't be shocked, when you see me. Mark calls me "Granny Bat
Wings. :)
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:40:46 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Looking for QUARTZ in LDS
familysearch found some:
Elizabeth QUARTZ (AFN: MXLW-PR) Pedigree
Sex: F Family
Event(s)
Birth: 1810
<, Ireland>
Parents
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Samuel WICE (AFN: MXLW-NL) Family
Marriage:
FROM: Verneice on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:38:20 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I'm doing good everyone and thanx for asking. I just ate and feel fine. We all take it one day at a
time. Isn't that right?
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:34:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Verneice.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:34:25 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Good evening Verneice. How are you feeling this evening?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:34:11 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Verneice,
How are you doing?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:33:49 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Mapquest directions:
RASHARKIN to BELFAST
48 minutes, 42.48 miles
RASHARKIN Co ANTRIM:
http://www.mapquest.com/directions/europe.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&qq=m
4ZeC4eEaUhE%252bIRLsEKubShc09OClZfFreoJScbjgT1ZxYsYbgmwXm0voAdtdO1j7uhrg6p
87Qrw44o6A07mMTnmuAUo0IHnAZSj1FHjibRNr%252bXa1psZTWk5Y2x74FM%252bygNvr
o8SDSTd2zDRXEXTXxf97EHHjzVl0alTc9
FROM: Verneice on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:33:28 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hello & Happy New Year you all
FROM: Charles on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:32:57 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Verneice
FROM: Charles on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:29:57 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat sounds like that is possible
FROM: Susan on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:28:33 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thanks Pat. I was just checking too and no luck. I think I get 14 free days with Ancestry.com
when I install my new program. Maybe they have some new info since I used them more than a
year ago.
I'll try at an earlier time of day, when I'm fully awake! Time to take my doggie out here and put
her to bed and me too. You all have a Happy New year, ya hear?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:27:39 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
You can also find the geography
of the townlands in Mapquest,
because you can choose United Kingdom, so Belfast and other
County Antrim towns are listed.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:26:51 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
It could be that she died in Oregon and was buried here. Maybe they trained here under Mother
Joseph and requested that they be buried here.
FROM: Charles on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:25:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat Maybe it was the closest Catholic Cemetery??
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:24:25 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
More info about "KILLOQUIN LOWER"
in Co ANTRIM:
Parish of RASHARKIN
http://www.proni.gov.uk/geogindx/parishes/par233.htm
Townland County Division
Anticur Antrim Glenbuck 23
2 Ballydonnelly Antrim Dirraw 26
3 Ballymaconnelly Antrim Killoquin Lower 22 & 26
4 Bellaghy Antrim Glenbuck 23 & 27
5 Carclunty Antrim Dunminning 26 & 27
6 Carnfinton Antrim Killoquin Lower 26
7 Church Tamlaght Antrim Killoquin Lower 26
8 Crushybracken Antrim Glenbuck 26
9 Culmore Antrim Killoquin Lower 26
10 Dreen Antrim Killoquin Upper 26
11 Dromore Antrim Dunminning 27
12 Drumack Antrim Killoquin Upper 26
13 Drumcon Antrim Killoquin Upper 26 & 31
14 Duneany Antrim Glenbuck 23 & 26 & 27
15 Dunminning Antrim Dunminning 27
16 Fernagh Antrim Killoquin Upper 26
17 Glebe Antrim Killoquin Lower 26
18 Glenbuck Antrim Glenbuck 22 & 23 & 26 & 27
19 Gortahar Antrim Killoquin Lower 26
20 Gortereghy Antrim Killoquin Upper 26
21 Granagh Antrim Killoquin Lower 22 & 26
22 Killycowan Antrim Dunminning 27
23 Killycreen Antrim Glenbuck 23 & 27
24 Killydonnelly Antrim Glenbuck 26 & 27
25 Lisnagaver Antrim Killoquin Lower 26
26 Magheraboy Antrim Dirraw 22 & 26
27 Moneyleck Antrim Killoquin Lower 26
28 Tamlaght Antrim Killoquin Upper 26
29 Tehorny Antrim Killoquin Upper 26
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:24:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I was wondering how come so many sisters are buried in this cemetery. They must have died all
over the area. Maybe even in Oregon?? I'll send that much info to the lady doing the research. I
know she will be pleased. Thanks Charles!
FROM: Charles on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:23:53 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
did not find other one at all, checked Quinn, S236 and even L650
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:21:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Charles,
I had such great success in
finding obits for Henry ELDER
and Sarah of Centralia, I posted
a long message about the great
obit service at Washington State
Library "Ask a Librarian".
They even found Sarah in the
California Death Index and then
looked up the obit in Centralia!
Fantastic! and Free!
FROM: Charles on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:20:53 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat I found one of the Sisters death. They are soundexed under S236
Sister Anicet age 56 ded Seattle 6-7-08 Cert #948
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:19:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hello Charles - glad you could join us this evening. Did you have any luck with info on those two
sisters who were sister?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:19:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Susan - I was looking through some of those records on GenWeb but haven't located the right
one yet. They have a lot of records online through FamilySearch which is free.
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:18:26 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Charles.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:17:48 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Glad we could help you Jaynie. I remembered those two stones from previously and figured they
were your relatives.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:17:47 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Found one name QUART listed
in Ballymoney Family search:
Ballymoney Outdoor Register
First Name: Isabella
Surname: Quart
Townland: Killoquin Lower ED
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:17:32 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Good nite Jaynie.
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:16:56 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
good bye you all! ill the transript in the morning Thak you for you time. i;ll be back soon, next
time better prepared with dates and counties
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:15:39 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Using Google.com,
searching QUART and Ireland
found:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irelandlist/irecan.html
...
Senator Josie Dinan Quart (1890's-1980's) was born in Quebec into a well-known Irish-Canadian
family. She was active in dramatics, music, sports, public service, Girl Guides, and the
Conservative Party. She was named a senator by Prime Minister Diefenbaker and served as
Canada's representative to the United Nations.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:11:43 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Another free database in County Antrim is BALLYMONEY HERITAGE,
not far from Belfast.
I have a webpage with ELDER names
of BALLYMONEY posted:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/BallymoneyData.h
tm
See:
Homepage for free registration,
family searches and forums:
at
http://www.ballymoneyancestry.com
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:08:56 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jim,
Great! Let us know how that
succeeds for you at Washington State Library!
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:08:01 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat, I am going to try writting to "Ask a Librarian" at the WA State Library for the obit on Laura
Oberetz.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:07:34 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Barry continues:
As I work with the Ulster Heritage DNA Project I hear many similar tales, some quite remarkable
and moving. Some families not only locate their kinfolk in Ulster, but also discover even older
links to Gaelic clans and historic families. As I sit and write this I recall many such cases; the
famous Mac Eain families of both Ardnamurchan and Glencoe both were located as were the Ó
Catháin families of Dungiven, the Hamiltons of Abercorn, just to name a very few. Some families
discover they are related to a very famous bloodline and are left with a pleasant mystery yet to
solve. Even those who test and do not have a dramatic breakthrough in their family's history do
enjoy finding out about their deep past and seeing if there is a Gael, a Norseman, or perhaps
Norman there.
My own pet interests include the families of Argyll that are so connected to Ulster. Many of these
are the Gallóglaigh families. The Gallóglaigh were a hereditary warrior caste that served the great
Irish lords and gave rise to their own clans in time; some of their names are Mac Aileain
(McAllen), Mac Suibhne (Sweeny), Mac Eáin (McCain), Mac Dónaill (McDonnell), Mac Alasdair
(McAlexander). Their history is remarkable and they functioned in Irish society very much like the
Samurai did in Japan. Their origins go back to the days of great Norse influence in the Gaelic
world and the warrior cults of the Gael and Norse, such as the Jomsvikings or Mac Báis. They
had a striking physical appearance, noted for using a two handed axe, coats of mail and a stylized
conical helmet. Perhaps most remarkable is they continued to exist as an institution well into the
early modern era unchanged in appearance and fighting style.
Posted by Barry R McCain at 11:02 AM 0 comments
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:06:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Barry McCAIN has also started
a blog webpage:
at
http://uhblog.ulsterheritage.com
Tuesday, November 27, 2007
DNA Testing and Ulster Heritage
One question I am asked often is ‘can you really locate your family in Ireland using a DNA test?'
… ‘has anyone already done this?' ‘Yes,' you really can and many families have already done so
including my own. In the case of my McCains we left County Antrim circa 1719 so we were
facing almost three centuries of loss of contact with our family that remained behind in County,
Antrim. I not only located my family in Antrim, but also located branches in Canada, Scotland,
and throughout the USA. It makes a trip over to Ulster very meaningful, when you can visit a
house, a cemetery, etc., that you know is connected to your family and best of all you can knock
on that door and find a nice cup of tea waiting for you served by ‘your' family. Nothing like that
feeling.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:03:59 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Susan - have you tried GenWeb for Ohio? Click below to see what they have to offer:
Ohio Genweb: http://www.ohgen.net/ohgenweb/
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:03:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I have posted ELDER names on
the ULSTER DNA project chart,
with Gaelic scholar, Barry McCAIN.
at
http://www.ulsterheritage.com
He writes:
Welcome and failte to the UlsterHeritage website, home of All Things Ulster. Here you will find
information about Ulster genealogy, families, clans, history and culture. This is the place to
renew one's Ulster roots and to meet other Ulster folk. This is also the home to the Ulster
Heritage DNA Project where many descendants of Ulster Folk throughout the Diaspora are using
DNA testing to recover their family history and to locate lost cousins.
UlsterHeritage is the on-line meeting place for Ulster and its Diaspora. UlsterHeritage will be
growing and we will be adding articles on family history, aspects of Ulster culture such as food
and drink, the Fairly folk, and Ulster's rich and ancient history, her ties to the Hebrides and
Argyll, etc. Our readers, we hope will visit often and we, also, urge readers to submit articles or
photographs. Speakers of Gaelic and Ullans are particularly urged to submit short articles as one
of the goals of UlsterHeritage is pro-active encouragement of our living Ulster heritage and
culture.
The links and advertisements on the site all have relevance to Ulster. We have personal experience
with many of the businesses, such as Glens Music, Duncan House. We can assure our readers they
are indeed worthy of having a look.
UlsterHeritage is the work of Barry McCain and Jim McKane, two men of Ulster ancestry.
Barry's people left county Antrim circa 1720 and Jim's left northern Tyrone in the 1830s. The
two men were early participants in the Ulster Heritage DNA Project and discovered they were
cousins. They have successfully located a branch of their family that remained behind in Ulster.
Both men are available for seminars and speaking engagements and their contact data is available
from the links. Barry lives in Oxford, Mississippi and is one of the well-known Mississippi
McCains. Jim lives in Ontario, Canada, is a noted Moose hunter and kinsmen to the also
well-known New Brunswick McCains.
Enjoy your visit here, come back often, and feel free to contact us with your suggestions and
comments.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:01:26 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Sometimes with an unusual name,
the experts have posted a collection
of names for the most "usual" county. Then you can start posting
queries on their county boards...
FROM: Susan on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:01:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat, George's dates are March 1867 to Jan. 10, 1920. It could be Green Co. or Fayette Co. But
later Clark Co. when my Dad was a boy growing up.
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:01:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jim, on the obits, ship passenger lists etc it always says, Belfast.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:01:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jaynie - not yet but supposedly that scout is working on it. If you're interested in doing it, go
ahead and take the photos. Some people promise to do something and then don't ever finish up
with it. I need to have the photos all renamed with the complete name of the person(s) buried
there. Last name first. I'll resize them. Just try to get a nice view of the stone so the whole stone
shows, not just the engraving.
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 4:00:35 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nope, Nancy. It is Quartz, like the mineral. Just found one of the children buried in Kings, NY
and one sibling was pretty promient in the Gulf Oil Co in Baytown, TX.
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:59:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy, I haven't done any research in Ireland. Many of my ancestors came from Ireland, but
without the name of an actual town, city, or county I don't have anywhere logically to start.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:58:59 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Judy,
Oh, now I remember your looking
for Quartz. Did you have another
spelling also?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:58:30 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Which family?
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:58:24 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Looking for Daniel Quartz and wife Jane White Sands
FROM: Susan on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:57:49 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
That was George David Little and the state of Ohio.
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:57:48 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
No, want to chase son in laws family....they were born in Belfast and pretty sure the parents died
there.
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:57:35 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat did you get the Saint Johns Cathlic cematery photographed
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:57:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I need to look at the info that I have. I think that I might have some work to do on the obits for
Camas and Washougal cemeteries. I think that I sent them aside last Sept. in order to work on
the Fern Prairie obits.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:57:20 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
I have found Google.com info
for my ELDER folks in Belfast.
Who are you looking for?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:57:16 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
What state are we talking about Susan? and his name?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:56:06 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy - you mean to actually go there?
FROM: Susan on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:55:38 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat mentioned her Mom being divorced. My Father never knew that his Dad had been previously
married and divorced till after both his parents were dead. Presumably there were no children of
that marriage. But how would I find out who she was? It would have been before 1900. I don't
even have a date for my grandparents marriage. Not sure in what county the previous marriage
would have taken place either.
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:55:24 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Anyone done any research in Belfast Ireland?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:54:56 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
That's great Jim. There are not a lot of burials there but they want to have every one of them on
that web page. Eileen was so pleased with the work you did for them.
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:53:49 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat, I heard from Don earlier today. He and Eileen from Fern Prairie Cemetery will be sending
me more obits after the 1st of the year.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:53:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jaynie,
Also in LDS 1880 census:
Joseph HUONDER Self M Male W 48 SWITZ Farmer
SWITZ SWITZ
Maria HUONDER Wife M Female W 46 ITALY Keepoing
House ITALY ITALY
Date HUONDERE Dau S Female W 25 ITALY
SWITZ ITALY
Joseph HUONDER Son S Male W 19 MINN
SWITZ ITALY
Rosaline HUONDER Dau S Female W 17 MINN
SWITZ ITALY
Henrietta HUONDER Dau S Female W 14 MINN
SWITZ ITALY
Louisa HUONDER Dau S Female W 12 MINN
SWITZ ITALY
Lawrence HUONDER Son S Male W 10 MINN
SWITZ ITALY
John HUONDER Son S Male W 2 MINN
SWITZ ITALY
Source Information:
Census Place E. D. 120-122, Le Sueur, Minnesota
Family History Library Film 1254625
NA Film Number T9-0625
Page Number 283C
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:51:25 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Would like to have the new addition before summer but you know how building something new
goes. We plan to have family Christmas there!
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:50:32 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
We are 5 minutes from downtown Poulsbo but feels like way out in the country. And a cemetery
is only a mile away....definitely will be walking there...looks like a pretty new facility
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:49:53 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Neat web site Judy. It will be fun to watch the progress. When do you hope to have it all finished?
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:49:24 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
a new how exciting I have lived in the same one for 32 years
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:49:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jim, saw great article on the building of the highway at Whistler for the Olympics and all the other
things that will be built
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:48:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Wow, I love the view, lots of
trees!
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:46:48 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
here is so news I have been told my granfather was an oly son here there are two Wow
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:46:38 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Will add another master suite to the right side of the house....house will be a U shape.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:46:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1880
Name: Joseph Huonder
Home in 1880: Le Sueur, Minnesota
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Birthplace: Switzerland
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Maria
Father's birthplace: Switzerland
Mother's birthplace: Switzerland
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:45:48 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
want to check out our new house? http://www.rileyhouse.embarqspace.com
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:44:57 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1880 census (Ancestry.com)
Name: John Huonder
Home in 1880: Le Sueur, Minnesota
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Father's birthplace: Switzerland
Mother's Name: Maria
Mother's birthplace: Italy
Neighbors: View others on page
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Huonder 48
Maria Huonder 46
Date Huondere 25
Joseph Huonder 19
Rosaline Huonder 17
Henrietta Huonder 14
Louisa Huonder 12
Lawrence Huonder 10
John Huonder 2
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: , Le Sueur, Minnesota; Roll: T9_625; Family History
Film: 1254625; Page: 283.3000; Enumeration District: 122; .
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:43:08 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Congrats Judy! Sounds great!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:42:24 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jaynie,
Name: John D Huonder
[John A Hurder]
Home in 1920: St Paul Ward 8, Ramsey, Minnesota
Age: 40 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Margarite
Father's Birth Place: United States of America
Mother's Birth Place: United States of America
FROM: Riley on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:42:20 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Celebration. We have a house. daughter living in it, new flooring going down the 7th of Jan and
then the movers come. Hubby and I will commute the 10 minutes from daughter to our new
house. At least we have our own address! Can hardly wait for my genealogy books to arrive
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:41:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jaynie,
In 1920 census:
Name: Margarite Huonder
[Margarite Hurder]
Home in 1920: St Paul Ward 8, Ramsey, Minnesota
Age: 42 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: John D
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: United States of America
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:37:55 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jaynie
Pat will post the whole transcript
on the CCGS webpage after 9 pm
this evening.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:37:15 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hello Jim and Judy - glad you could both visit us this evening. Have you found a house yet Judy?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:37:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Jim and Judy!
How are you this evening?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:36:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
You'll be able to copy the info from the transcript after I post it this evening. Click below to see
the site.
Past Transcripts: http://www.rootsweb.com/~waccgs/p3424.htm
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:36:28 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Judy.
FROM: Jim on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:35:13 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Good evening to all.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:35:04 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Susan - do you have a DVD burner on your computer? You might consider transferring those
photos to a DVD-RW and remove them from your hard drive. That is, unless your hard drive is
huge. You can also cut those photos down in size which will help a lot. I use Picture It to change
the size of my photos.
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:33:47 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Can print this info out that os on here?
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:32:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I 'm well with the Bonnells i have conceted with a few cosions and my husband got me the
bunnell/ Bonnell first eight gen for my birthday
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:31:49 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
That's o.k. Jaynie. I type pretty fast and leave letters out, too - we just ignore it.
FROM: Susan on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:31:10 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Pat, and everyone. Yes, I made it tonight. Was waiting for my computer to complete
defraging. Tryint to make sure I have space since my Ron and Candy gave me a new Canon
digital camera for Christmas. Also, my grandson, Andy gave me the 2008 Family Tree Maker--full
version.
Now I need to find out how to transfer info from my 2005 starter version.
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:30:57 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I am a slow typer and seem to miss letters sorry
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:30:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jaynie - I hadn't seen you for quite a while and was wondering how you were doing. Nice to see
you here this evening.
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:29:24 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Yes I the Jaynie that has come in to ccgs
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:29:15 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Susan!
How are you this evening?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:28:38 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
WWI Draft registration
Name: Walter J Huonder
City: Van Hook
County: Mountrail
State: North Dakota
Birth Date: 28 May 1898
Race: White
Roll: 1819449
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:28:35 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Le Suer is familar
My grand mothers father and mother came from Germany
And her mothers maidan name was Romel{Rommel)
Yes I am the Bonnell
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:28:08 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Susan - I didn't have a chance to say hello before. Glad to see you here this evening.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:27:19 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1900
Name: Walter J Huonder
Home in 1900: Sharon, Le Sueur, Minnesota
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Race: White
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Huonder 22
Margaret Huonder 24
Walter J Huonder 2
Julia J Huonder 10.12
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Sharon, Le Sueur, Minnesota; Roll: T623 773; Page:
3B; Enumeration District: 75.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:27:15 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jaynie - are you the Bonnell relative?
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:26:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
thank you! you jump right in there
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:26:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
There is also a Donald E. Huonder Sr. buried here. Are you the Jaynie I've spoken with at the
CCGS Library?
FROM: Steve on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:26:04 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Census info from Heritage Quest:
Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County
Location Year
HUONDER ANGELINE 4 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER ANNA 10 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER CHRISTIAN 50 M W SWIT MN LE SUEUR
SHARON TWP 1870
HUONDER CHRISTIAN 59 W SWIT MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER CHRISTINA 14 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER FRANK S 42 M W SWIT MN RAMSEY
10-WD ST PAUL 1920
HUONDER HENRIETTA 14 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER JOHN 2 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER JOHN 12 M W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON TWP 1900
HUONDER JOHN A 40 M W MN MN RAMSEY
8-WD ST PAUL 1920
HUONDER JOHN B 32 M W GERM MN LE
SUEUR SHARON TWP 1910
HUONDER JOSEPH 19 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER JOSEPH 48 W SWIT MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER KATIE 16 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER LAWRENCE 10 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER LOUISA 12 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER MARGARET 23 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER MARIA 46 W ITAL MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER MARTIN 45 M W SWIT MN LE SUEUR
SHARON TWP 1870
HUONDER MARTIN 53 W SWIT MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER MARY 20 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER MARY H. 45 W SWIT MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER MORA MRS 39 F W SWED MN
MILLE LACS GREENBUSH TWP 1910
HUONDER ROSA 18 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER ROSALINE 17 W MN MN LE SUEUR
SHARON 1880
HUONDER URSULA 51 F W MN MN RAMSEY
9-WD ST PAUL 1920
HUONDER WENDELINE 27 F W SWIT MN
BELTRAMI RED LAKE INDIAN RESERVATION 1900
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:25:32 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
The 1920 census looks good, too.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:24:51 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Here's Anna Marie:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~waclacem/StJamesAcres/huondram.jpg
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:24:23 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Yes this is my Grand dad I would like info on his family
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:24:11 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Here's one:
Name: Walter Huonder
Home in 1920: St Paul Ward 8, Ramsey, Minnesota
Age: 21 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: John D
Father's Birth Place: Minnesota
Mother's Name: Margarite
Mother's Birth Place: Minnesota
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
John D Huonder 40
Margarite Huonder 42
Walter Huonder 21
Julia Huonder 19
Marie Huonder 16
Lorraine Huonder 1 1/12
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: St Paul Ward 8, Ramsey, Minnesota; Roll: T625_855;
Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 90; Image: 21.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:23:45 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Walter J. Huonder is buried in Mother Joseph Catholic Cemetery in Vancouver.
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:23:25 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
They here from North Dakota
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:23:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Is this the one you're looking for?
http://www.rootsweb.com/~waclacem/StJamesAcres/huondrwj.jpg
FROM: Steve on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:22:11 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jaynie: Any info on locations?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:22:04 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jaynie,
Is that really Walter?
I'll try ancestry.com
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:22:01 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Were the Huonders in Vancouver Jaynie?
FROM: Jaynie Connor on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:20:49 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
here is a brick wall
Waler John Huonder
M. Anna marie lenartz
Walter passed aroun 1962
Anna passed 2000 born 1902
I can't find much on either family
Just an great aunt Nora
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:19:06 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I'll do that Nancy. That explains why I could never locate him in 1930. And the reason my mom
became a housekeeper for my dad during that time. I'll have to share that info with my brother,
Ken. The other brother, Len, died in 1990.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:16:59 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
You should be able to get
the handwritten .pdf file
from Heritage Quest, too.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:16:57 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thanks much Nancy. That's great. Now to see if I can find that story from long ago. It was in the
Columbian.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:16:00 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
The handwritten name is clearly
Jess F. SHELTON on the inmate list.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:15:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Interesting Nancy - that could easily be him. So he did go to the slammer for that theft. Good job
Nancy!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:14:43 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Jaynie!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:14:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Handwritten census
says Washington State Reformatory
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:13:51 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Good evening Jaynie - welcome to GenChat. What can we do to help you this evening?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:13:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Name: Jess F Welton
Home in 1930: Park Place, Snohomish, Washington
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Race: White
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Park Place, Snohomish, Washington; Roll: 2520;
Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 106; Image: 209.0.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:09:16 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jess & my mom were married in Stevenson, WA Aug 1923. He's the one that married again after
the divorce, had one son and then they divorced. After that he married the mother of wife #2.
Wife #2 remarried and that man apparently adopted the son by that marriage as his surname
became Grant, rather than Shelton.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:04:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1920
Name: Sarah Shelton
Home in 1920: Crawfordville Ward 1, Montgomery, Indiana
Age: 54 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Birth Place: Indiana
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 305
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Shelton 59
Sarah Shelton 54
Donald Shelton 18
Jessie Shelton 15
Dena Shelton 13
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Crawfordville Ward 1, Montgomery, Indiana; Roll:
T625_457; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 176; Image: 305.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:04:06 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
He might have been in jail in Vancouver in 1930. I saw a newspaper article a long time ago
(neglected to copy it) about him being arrested for stealing a coat in some park in Vancouver.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:02:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jess was born June 1904 but that family wasn't his. The death is his for sure. He was Jess Franklin
Shelton. His two sons by my mom were born in 1925 & 1928. Both in Vancouver.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:02:04 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Social Security Death Index
Name: Jess L. Shelton
SSN: 307-40-4054
Born: 30 Sep 1903
Died: 1 Nov 1989
State (Year) SSN issued: Indiana (1955-1956 )
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:01:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
A different one in Indiana:
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Jess Lee Shelton
Name: Jess Lee Shelton
City: Indianapolis
County: Marion
State: Indiana
Birthplace: Indiana;United States of America
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1889
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1613157
DraftBoard: 10
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 3:00:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Same birth date?
California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Jess F Shelton
Social Security #: 554092770
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1904
Birthplace: Indiana
Death Date: 4 Apr 1964
Death Place: Sacramento
Mother's Maiden Name: Skaggs
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:59:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
No sure when my mom and Jess were divorced but I presume it was in 1930. Someday I'm going
to have to try finding their divorce papers. I'd like to find those of my dad, Archie Leroy McKee
& Therese Nord McKee, too. One or the other of these couples didn't have a final divorce until
late in 1930 as my parents marriage was rather "delayed."
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:58:51 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Name: Jess Shelton
Home in 1930: Clay, Hamilton, Indiana
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Ethel
Race: White
Household Members:
Name Age
Jess Shelton 26
Ethel Shelton 24
Ruby Shelton 4 6/12
Georga Shelton 3 2/12
Fred Shelton 1 1/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930;
Census Place: Clay, Hamilton, Indiana;
Roll: 590; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 5; Image: 762.0.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:57:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
I'll try ancestry.com.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:55:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
If you want a project, I'd like to find Jess Shelton in 1930. He was my mom's first husband and the
father of my two older half brothers. His name might be spelled Jessie, Jesse or Jess. Legally, he
was Jess. He and my mom were divorced (I think) in 1930 and that had lived in Vancouver. I
have him with his parents, James & Sarah Shelton in Crawfordville, Montgomery, Indiana.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:54:57 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve,
They just use an hour looking
for your obit at Washington State
Library, then I imagine they would
report if they found it or not.
FROM: Steve on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:54:38 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Not sure if "No Dogs Please" is better or worse than "Keep Off the Grass".
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:53:49 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
While I was looking at ELDER names
in Washington State, I found more
that seem to be my cousins from the
same KY origins!
WorldConnect
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ebeswick&id=I490
by Elaine Beswick
# Name: Alfred Ridgeley Elder
# Given Name: Alfred Ridgeley
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: M
# Birth: 16 AUG 1806 in ,Ky
# Death: 1880 in ,WA
# IDNO: 42
# Note:
!There were 7 daughters, 3 sons, and one adopted boy in this family.
A.R. Elder was appointed Indian Agent for the Washington Territory by President
Abraham Lincoln.
Father: Matthew Henry Elder
Mother: Elizabeth McPherson
Marriage 1 Martha Page Ross
* Married: 1828 in ,Sangamon,IL
Children
1. Helen Mar Elder b: 23 MAY 1848
2. Alfred Ridgeley Elder b: 1855 in ,OR
****
FATHER:
# ID: I488
# Name: Matthew Henry Elder
# Given Name: Matthew Henry
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: M
# IDNO: 84
# Note: !There were 9 children born to this marriage. Alfred was the 3rd son.
Marriage 1 Elizabeth McPherson
Children
1. Alfred Ridgeley Elder b: 16 AUG 1806 in ,Ky
***
WorldConnect
by Janell Dickerson
jdickerson3@kc.rr.com
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1989145&id=I118253615
# ID: I118253615
# Name: Matthew ELDER
# Given Name: Matthew
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: M
# Birth: 1773 in Virginia
# Death: 1838 in Morgan, Illinois
Father: Andrew ELDER b: 1737-1745 in Cumberland, Pennsylvania
Mother: Margret COLLIER b: 1744 in Virginia
Marriage 1 Elizabeth MCPHERSON b: 6 Oct 1771 in Virginia
* Married: 6 Aug 1795 in Virginia
***
FATHER:
WorldConnect
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1989145&id=I1182
53562
# Name: Andrew ELDER
# Given Name: Andrew
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: M
# Birth: 1737-1745 in Cumberland, Pennsylvania
# Death: 9 Nov 1807 in Richmond, Madison, Kentucky
Father: Matthew ELDER b: 1703 in Londonderry, Templemore, Ireland
Mother: Mary KINCANNON b: 1702-1726
Marriage 1 Margret COLLIER b: 1744 in Virginia
* Married: 1769 in Rockbridge, Virginia
Children
1. David ELDER b: 22 Feb 1781 in Washington, Virginia
2. Andrew ELDER b: 1745
3. Cecelia ELDER b: 1759-1786
4. Nancy ELDER b: 1759-1786
5. John ELDER b: 1770
6. Elizabeth ELDER b: 22 Feb 1781
7. Alexander ELDER b: 1777 in Madison, Kentucky
8. Matthew ELDER b: 1773 in Virginia
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:52:47 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
They have even more nerve to
print that in Marble, I'd say!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:51:00 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
That's marble Nancy! It looks like the grass/weeds around the stone could use some "watering"
from almost any source.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:49:51 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
Yipes! Someone does have alot of
nerve to print that in concrete!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:48:54 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I think this is one of the funniest gravestones yet. It's at Park Hill Cemetery and I don't know what
name(s) might be on the reverse side:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~waclacem/ParkHill/no_dogs.jpg
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:47:05 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I don't know of any Nancy. Oh, except for Mother Joseph. There were lots of stories on her.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:46:26 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I was glad to see some rain starting late this afternoon. We were at 32.4 degrees almost all day
with snow - just light stuff, nothing building up very much.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:45:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
Do many nuns have obituaries in
your database?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:45:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
The other one is her sister, Elizabeth Quinn (Sister Anicet) She died in 1908. I've sent info to
Charles Hansen asking if he will find the actual death dates for the two women. Margaret Quinn
(Sister Laurienne)died in 1922.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:43:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Pat and Steve,
Glad to see you this rainy evening!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 2:42:00 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I'm hoping someone will come up with a question for tonight. I did have a query from a lady
doing research which included two of the nuns buried at Mother Joseph Catholic Cemetery. We
have a photo of the stone of one of the sisters but not the other yet. This is the photo of the one:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~waclacem/StJamesAcres/quinn.jpg
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 18:25:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
RE: More WASHINGTON STATE LIBRARY obituaries
When I began researching for the other
names in the Henry ELDER obituaries,
I found several other full dates
to send to the Washington State Library "Ask a Librarian."
They will look for 3 at a time.
SUGGESTIONS FROM "ASK-A-LIBRARIAN"
-- Please be as specific as possible in your question. Include dates or geographic restrictions if
they apply to your question and spell out any acronyms that you use.
When submitting obituary/genealogy requests please:
* Ask for information on specific individuals, not entire families. Since we are only able to do 1
hour of research per question, we prefer you submit one name to research at a time. However, we
will accept up to three names per request.
* Provide approximate dates of births, deaths, marriages, or divorces (within a ten year range)
* Provide approximate place of death and residence, if known.
Examples: Seeking an obituary for John Doe, died 31 October 1924, in Yakima. In 1920 he was
living in Sunnyside, WA --or-- Looking for a death date for Jane Doe, died between 1920 and
1930 in Sunnyside, WA. If found, please search for an obituary for her."
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Dec 27, 2007 18:19:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
RE: WASHINGTON STATE OBITUARIES:
This week I received an even more amazingly quick and helpful answer to
my e-mail request for obituaries from Washington State Library's "ASK A LIBRARIAN" format.
And it was all FREE!
Charles had provided me the full WA death date for
HENRY ELDER of Centralia, WA, but I only had
a year of 1919 for his wife SARAH, who is also buried in Centralia.
The Washington State Library service actually searched and obtained the full California death
date for wife SARAH, and then went on to scan and send all the obituaries via e-mail, as written
in the Centralia Washington newspaper!
"From ASK-A-LIBRARIAN" at Washington State Library :
She writes:
I have attached copies of Henry Elder's obituaries:
1) Centralia Daily Chronicle, January 16 1911--Henry Elder
2) Centralia News-Examiner: January 18, 1911: Henry Harrison Elder
Sarah Elder's death date was more challenging. She was not on the
Washington Death Index. According to her husband's obituaries, their
children were living in several different states. So I thought it likely
that Sarah went to live with a son or daughter out of state.
I found her in the California Death Index. We don't have access to
the full California Death Index; AncestryLibrary's index only starts at
1940. However there is an online version of the California Death
Index at
http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/ca/_vitals/cadeathm.htm
If you would like to search it yourself, you will have to click on
the Guest Pass option in order to get a password to search the
database, but once you do that it is free.
Anyway I found that Sarah Elder died 18 April 1919 in Siskiyou
County, California at age 82. Her obituary and funeral announcement
appeared in the Centralia Daily Chronicle. By 1919 the Centralia
News-Examiner had ceased publication.
The attached documents are in Adobe Acrobat format. If you don't
already have it installed, you can download the free Reader from
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
I hope this helps. If you have any more questions or requests, please
feel free to contact the Washington State Library directly using our
Ask A Librarian service:
http://www.secstate.wa.gov/library/ask.aspx
Sincerely,
Kathryn Devine
Reference Librarian
Washington State Library
6880 Capitol Blvd.
Tumwater, WA
FROM: Pat2 on DATE-Dec 25, 2007 0:46:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Just checking to make sure this looks o.k. - guess it will be sufficient for Thursday night. See you
then!
FROM: Nancy & Pat on DATE-Dec 25, 2007 0:45:59 GMT-DATE
EMAIL: patbauer@pacifier.com
MESSAGE:
Nancy Elder Petersen and Patricia McKee Bauer, along with several regular visitors, will be
staffing the GenChat room beginning about 6:45 p.m. Thursday evening. We close the door about
9:00 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.
We have lots of visitors who will give you a willing helping hand with your genealogy brick walls.
You can enter questions or answers at any time but we hope you will be able to join us when we
are open for discussions.
BRICK WALL FOR THIS WEEK:
We don't have any special project for this week so just drop by and post a query here. WE hope
to see you Thursday evening.
Please feel free to come into GenChat anytime and post a query. The visitors love to have a
challenge and welcome your "brickwall" problems. If you don't send us something, you'll
continue working on our little problems!
Please click on the "log-out" button (lower right) before you leave.
Meanwhile, you can see our past transcripts by clicking below and following the links to the
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