February 12, 2009 Remember to begin reading this transcript from the bottom to the top! FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 5:00:20 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good night. Have a great President's Day. FROM: Pat on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:59:07 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Looks like it's almost time to call it quits for another week. This has been a very interesting evening with lots of great information. Tomorrow morning I'll be posting the info on the brick wall for next week. This is something for a new-found cousin of mine. Time to say "goodnight all!" See you next week. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:59:03 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Gnight all! FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:58:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Goodnight Everyone FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:57:40 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Oops, that should be Story:... (Eastman's). FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:56:56 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Stor: Pricing Changes at Footnote (PA ARCHIVES) Footnote.com has always been noted as the low-cost leader in online providers of historical data. Now the company is announcing a modest price increase, although I believe the company remains as one of the lowest-priced commercial services available today. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:54:40 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Starting September 1, 2008, the monthly All-Access Membership price will be $11.95 and the annual All-Access Membership will be $69.95 (an additional 83 cents per month for annual members). http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2008/08/pricing-changes.h tml FROM: Pat on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:52:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I've sent notes to Sue Mills and to Letha Thompson to tell both of them to check the transcript tonight. I hope there's new info for Letha and I'm sure there are some good suggestions Sue can use! FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:52:45 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: At least there are now some pensions online, for example, at PA ARCHIVES. It costs less for the subscription to online PA ARCHIVES than for one pension at NARA. FROM: Pat on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:49:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: There are so many things we should have done - and should have asked eons ago! And it was all before we started genealogy. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:49:10 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Me too Nancy. Though for a couple of years after I started my family research, I worked for a company based in northern VA and they flew me out there on business at least twice a year. I was always able to take a couple of days to do research. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:46:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: And to think, that was before I started into genealogy. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:46:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Must be nice to be able to just drive over and drop in! When I lived in Baltimore I didn't do any genealogy research, now I wish I had, of course. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:45:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Also the DAR Library. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:44:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: My wife ans I went to the Library of Congress when we lived in DC in 1989. You could spend years there. FROM: Pat on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:42:17 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I think so Jerry so I got there just in time. That's where I got the original of his birth information which was written in German. FROM: Pat on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:41:40 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: When our family got the Purple Heart awarded to my uncle because he died in 1945 when his boat was sunk by a German sub, we got his file - all originals with a lot of information he would never have wanted me to see! FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:41:31 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I remember thinking $27 was a bundle of money to spend back then. The partial file with documents they considered important was only $10... but left soooo much out FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:41:13 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Were they micro filming them Pat, and then discarding the paper? FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:41:09 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I was talking to a DNA researcher in Virginia who replied to a query this week by saying, "so yesterday I went up to the Library of Congress and looked it up...." FROM: Pat on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:39:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I got mine for free when I wrote to find out info on my maternal grandfather. A huge envelope of info came - all originals - because they were purging the files. Talk about lucking out! FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:38:58 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Yep. Me, too. I got mine when it was still $27. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:38:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I suppose it's still reasonable, if you think of staying overnight in a hotel, so you can copy from the microfilm, etc. FROM: Pat on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:38:51 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I guess we have to help pay their wages, the reason for the increase in prices for the files. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:38:33 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Looks like I got away cheap! FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:37:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Fee schedule: http://www.archives.gov/research/order/fees.html FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:37:51 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Thanks Jerry and Joy, I didn't dig far enough to see the full amounts. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:37:30 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: It's $75 for a full pension file. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:36:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: No, maybe that is $75! FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:36:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Nancy - you were right $50 FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:35:25 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: NATF Form 85: Order for Copies of Federal Pension or Bounty Land Warrant Applications * Full Pension Application File – Pre-Civil War * Full Pension Application File – Civil War and Later (up to 100 pages) * Full Pension Application File – (each additional page after 100, quote provided to customer) * Pension Documents Packet * Bounty Land Warrant Application $50.00 per case $75.00 per case $0.65 per page $25.00 per case $25.00 per case NATF Form 86: Order for Copies of Military Service Files $25.00 per case FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:33:46 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I see they have moved the records to the regional archives. NARA at Boston (Waltham), MA Maine (1861-1867), entries 380 through 611 New Hampshire (1861-1866), entries 612 through 734 Vermont (1861-1866), entries 735 through 789 Massachusetts (1861-1867), entries 790 through 1036 Connecticut and Rhode Island (1861-1866), entries 1038 through 1359 NARA at New York City, NY New York (1861-1868), entries 1360 through 2520 New Jersey and Pennsylvania Consolidated Records (1864-1868), entries 2521 through 2537 New Jersey (1861-1868), entries 2538 through 2701 NARA at Philadelphia, PA Pennsylvania (1861-1868), entries 2702 through 3621 Delaware and Maryland (1861-1866), entries 3622 through 3819 West Virginia (1862-1866), entries 3872 through 3960 NARA at Atlanta, GA Kentucky (1861-1868), entries 3961 through 4162 Tennessee (1862-1868), entries 6805 through 6825 NARA at Kansas City, MO Missouri (1861-1869), entries 4163 through 4446 Iowa (1861-1867), entries 6354 through 6499 Kansas and Nebraska (1861-1867), entries 6500 through 6571 NARA at Chicago, IL Ohio (1861-1868), entries 4447 through 5054 Indiana (1861-1867), entries 5055 through 5357 Illinois (1861-1867), entries 5358 through 5892 Michigan (1861-1867), entries 5893 through 6102 Wisconsin (1861-1867), entries 6103 through 6353 Minnesota (1861-1867), entries 6581 through 6699 FROM: Pat on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:31:18 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I hit the wrong button and had to come back without my B initial! FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:28:51 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Oops that was an old article, too, but might be true. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:27:53 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Ancestry article at http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=4005 ...III. Changes in Ordering Copies of Original Pension and Service Records from the National Archives Anyone who has ordered copies from NARA over the last ten months knows that our response time, which was never less than four weeks, has been far worse. Some researchers have waited 16 weeks to hear from us. Most researchers, while very patient, think that is too long to wait. We agree completely. It currently takes far too long to receive a response from us. We have made changes in the process in conjunction with the recent fee schedule change that we believe will speed the process. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:27:47 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: That page shows $37, but is 1.5 years old. Probably more now. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:24:58 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Info (;>) FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:24:42 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: How to order at http://www.pacivilwar.com/nara.html FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:24:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Wow. Worth it though if it contains good onfo. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:23:36 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jerry, I think it's about $50 or so. I should be able to find the form on NARA. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:21:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Nancy - what does a pension file cost now? When I got Lewis Thompson's it was $27. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:20:03 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: There are more stones - Herbert and Joseph. These are all in the Mountain View Cemetery. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:18:43 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: These are probably Don's parents: FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:18:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: My Foesig family was just one person, PhilipJacob Foesig, that came to America in 1754 from Germany. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:17:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here's the stone for Don & his wife. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:16:47 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: No Pat. We have not talked about that one. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:16:28 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy, now if I can just find who Silas Thompson's parents were. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:16:00 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jerry - did we decide if you were related to the Fassett family at Amboy? He was Donovan, & called Don. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:14:19 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: My FÖSIG family has the same challenge. Spellef Fasig Faesig, Fosig, Fesig, Foesig, Fassick and some others. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:13:26 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: What a treasure, Jerry. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:11:21 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: She even told who was at each child's birth. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:11:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy - remember how the vowels are/were pronounced in other countries. We're A, E, I, O and U but they are AH, AYE, E, O and OU - how do I write the OU like in YOU? That's why our Fradenburg family name is spelled Fredenburg in many cases and is pronounced just as we pronounce it spelled with the A. Therefore, I think the census takers spelled it the way it sounded to them. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:10:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: That is so cool, Jerry. Jacob McFarren outlines where he lived between 1840 and 1855 or so, which is the only record we can find of where they were. I can't find them on a census in either 1840 or 1850. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:08:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Yes Joy, mine too. Best of all was the affadavit by my ggrandmother that detailed their entire lives, from how they met, until her husband died. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:08:44 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy, It probably depended on which county or town they lived in! I've seen discussions of town names that were pronounced differently in Scotland depending on which side of the river you were on. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:07:47 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jerry, I had 2 that were close to that. Page after page of applying for increases, doctors evaluations, affadavits. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:07:17 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: NARA has the order forms online now. It's a bit spendy, but worth it. I found out my G-grandfather ELDER's 2nd wife had been divorced! Nobody was telling that, either. One researcher said he had 3 wives, but one was the same wife with her first married name! FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:07:01 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat, I've often wondered how ancestors pronounced our surname - Kersteter. We pronounce it Cur stet er... But when you find it spelled Karstetter or Castetter in an old census record, it makes me wonder about how they pronounced it if the census taker wrote what he heard. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:06:41 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: My ggrandfather's pension file was a gold mine. Over 200 pages of info. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:04:28 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy - good idea about the pension file. That's where I found the birth information for my grandfather Frederick Mathys, born in Switzerland. It contained the names of both of his parents. He needed that proof for retirement and obtained it from Switzerland and Kentucky where his sister lived. I was sent the actual, original copy which he submitted. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:03:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I found another possible contact for ELDER DNA, from Isle of Skye, to England, to Argentina to Oklahoma! Talking to Miguel in Argentina. I found that Miguel's mother Irene had posted a query on an ELDER board at http://www.familytrail.com/elder/member5.html Member 491 - Irene Elder wrote: >"My father's name was Arthur Cecil, he came from England in 1911. He was born in a little town near London, Godstone, Surrey. He had a brother, William George. His grandson lives in U.S. in Oklahoma. My grandfather's name was Arthur Sidney Welsh Elder and his father came from Scotland. He married to Winifreda Bell arround 1906, in England." Now we know they are relatives of "Sir George ELDER of SKYE" -- and they also have an ELDER relative in Oklahoma! Miguel will ask for e-mail of "Eduardo ELDER" in Oklahoma. Sure hope Eduardo will help us with the ELDER DNA project. Unusual Spanish/Argentina name of "Eduardo ELDER" in Oklahoma was easy to find in Google.com: Eduardo Elder (405) 447-8353 400 Lamp Post Rd, Norman, OK 73072 also in Google results for "Eduardo Elder": "Oklahoma ODOT projects awarded for "Excellence in Concrete Pavement" FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 5, 2009 ... "project was designed by Eduardo Elder (Engineer) of ODOT's Roadway Design division. " FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:03:18 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Abstracts, really, but often with a link to the full article. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:02:33 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: There are several other articles about DNA on the same site. http://www.eurekalert.org/pubnews.php FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:01:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: What interesting information about those rare names. Maybe they were all trying to see how many ways they could spell a name! Kind of a contest among cousins. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 4:00:12 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I did read that article, too. Interesting that our ELDER name is common in Scotland, so we have more lines, like Smith. I'm still trying to find the Scotland connection for our "FRANKLIN CO PA" group and others. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:59:54 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: The researchers also looked at whether the Y chromosome-surname link could provide information about historical rates of children born illegitimately. People with a rare surname are very likely to be related as the surname is likely to have been adopted by only one or two men initially, so anyone now sharing this surname but with a different Y chromosome to the majority is likely to have an ancestor born illegitimately. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:59:25 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: One of the most familiar of the rarer names in the study was Attenborough. A random sample of Attenboroughs – including derivations such as Attenborrow – found that almost nine out of ten of these men share the same Y chromosome type. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:58:45 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Dr King and Professor Jobling found that men with rare surnames – such as Grewcock, Wadsworth, Ketley and Ravenscroft – tended to share Y chromosomes that were very similar, suggesting a common ancestor within the past 700 years. However, men with common surnames, such as Smith, were no more likely to have such a common ancestor than men chosen at random from the general population. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:58:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Our surnames and genetic information are often strongly connected, according to a study funded by the Wellcome Trust. The research, published this week in the journal Molecular Biology and Evolution, may help genealogists create more accurate family trees even when records are missing. It also suggests that the often quoted "one in ten" figure for children born through infidelity is unlikely to be true. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:56:58 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here is an interesting article about DNA: Y chromosome and surname study challenges infidelity 'myth' http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-02/wt-yca021109.php FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:54:06 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Quote: 1850 Census Dearborn Co. Indiana: Daniel is shown with wife Elizabeth (his 2nd wife) and son Anthony CLOUD age 6, but I believe this to be age 4 which agrees with Anthony's age shown in military records and his death certificate. My suggestion would be, if she hasn't done so, to order Daniel Cloud's complete Pension File and Military Record. If there is a pension file, it would contain proof of his age (birth date), perhaps from a family Bible or if nothing else, an afadavit from Daniel or his wife. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:53:58 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Bye Jim FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:53:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Well, I am going to sign off early tonight. Good night to all. See you next week. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:51:03 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Well, I too use TMG. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:49:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: About as close as you can get. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:48:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Aww, The Master Genealogist says there's no relation between me and Munson. LOL FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:47:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: So were kinda sorta related. LOL FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:47:31 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: No, greatgrandfather. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:47:09 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Munson was my GGgrandfather, Lewis's brother. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:46:34 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Ah yes, now I remember. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:46:32 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Munson was the son of Silas Thompson FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:45:34 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: He was married to Harriet Catherine Russell, who was the sister of Anna (Russell) Schoonover who adopted my great grandmother FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:44:23 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Oh yes... Munson Thompson FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:44:10 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I seem to remember that too, but not the details. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:43:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: No. Great Grandfather was David Justin McFarren. His wife was Florence Coshow. She called him "Jep" FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:43:29 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim - they are CCGS members and they read the info in the "Wednesday Blurb!" FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:42:56 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: If I remember right, there's some connection between my Schoonovers and your Thompsons. LOL FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:42:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy, his name wasn't Peter Hughes, or last name Dyer was it? My family lived on farms owned by those two. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:42:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: That's where the Schoonovers lived, which were my great grandmother's adoptive parents. They all moved out here about 1894 FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:41:05 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Cool FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:39:05 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Wow Jpy. I went to Howard last year. The lady that runs the couty archives is a real treat. They have many old records. FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:37:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat, I might have missed the information, but how did the CCGS member learn about the albums that were available on her family? FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:37:49 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: It would be fun if we could do GenChat with some other societies around the country but it would have to be for an evening meeting as most of you folks (except for Nancy and me) are employed during the day. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:37:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: My GGrandfather on another line was married in Howard, Elk County Kansas in 1890. :) Small world FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:37:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: The whole family - brothers, sisters and husbands and a few cousins all moved together. From KS they came to WA on the Oregon trail in 1888. Lewis died about 6 months after they arrived leaving my GGgrandmother with 12 kids. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:35:40 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: While in MO mine were in Mercer and Livingston counties. Aftermy GGrandparents house burned down in 1885 and Lewis could not clear their land to farm, they moved to Elk county KS. the next year they moved to Garfield (now Finney) county where Lewis was Sheriff. FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:33:19 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy, were both James and his father on the Union side or opposite sides? FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:31:33 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: His daddy was in the Missouri State Militia and had been wounded. I can just see Mama saying "no way are you going" and James running off to join (he joined within a couple weeks of his father's injury) FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:30:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: At some point I plan on indexing the obits for Washougal Cemetery. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:30:00 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: My GG Grandfather was a Missouri Thompson who ran over to Kansas to enlist for the Civil War. FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:29:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I am glad to see that the SIGS folks had favorable comments about our Chat Room. Maybe some of them will join us on Thursday nights. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:29:13 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Sounds great Jim. Those indexes are so handy. FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:27:58 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat, I am currently indexing the obits that we have for Camas Cemetery. It might be another week before I am done with that index. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:27:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy - Mine are PA - OH - IN - MO - KS - WA FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:27:20 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: We have some robins here, too and they're looking around saying, "what in the heck happened?" FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:25:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jerry, my Thompsons were in Henry & Pettis county Missouri, Clark County Illinois, and Donegal Ireland FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:24:56 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: The robins that normally head south have remained here all winter. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:24:45 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: And you're supposed to be colder than heck in Colorado. We aren't supposed to be freezing night after night here! It was 25 this morning. Brrrrr. I am definitely looking forward to spring. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:22:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat - we have had vitually no snow here this winter. We also have had record 60s and 50s through January. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:20:12 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: My great grandfather's first wife was Martha Thompson, daughter of Joseph Thompson & Sarah Paul. Born in Kentucky, died young in Missouri. I have dates and siblings info. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:18:23 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hello Jim - welcome to the cold northwest. This is a winter we won't forget very soon! They're forecasting snow again tonight. They say "down to 500 feet" which has meant where we are lately. I thought we were maybe 50 to 75 feet here but maybe I'm mistaken! We'll see what it's like in the morning again. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:18:15 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jim FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:18:10 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy - Where are yours? FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:17:24 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: More interesting CLOUD entries same researcher: 1. Jeremiah CLOUD was born 7 Feb 1658 in Calne, Wiltshire, England, was christened 7 Feb 1658 in Calne Parish, Calne, Wiltshire, England, and died BEF 21 Dec 1717 in Rockland Manor, New Castle, Pennsylvania. He was the son of 2. William CLOUD and 3. Susan JAMES. He married Elizabeth Ann BAILEY Jun 1685 in Concord Manor, Chester, Pennsylvania, daughter of Daniel BAILY and Mary. She was born ABT 1667 in , Cain, Wiltshire, England, and died AFT 2 Dec 1717 in Concord Township, Chester, Pennsylvania. He married Elizabeth Mrs. CLOUD. Ahnentafel, Generation No. 2 2. William CLOUD was born 8 Jul 1621 in Southbroom, Devizes, Wiltshire, England, was christened 8 Jul 1621 in St. James Parish, Southbroom, Wiltshire, England, and died BEF 25 Aug 1702 in Concord, Chester, Pennsylvania. He was the son of 4. Robert CLOUD and 5. Joan NORYS. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:17:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jim FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:17:07 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Judy also has some Thompsons. Perhaps they are hers. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:17:04 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I'm connected to Thompsons, too. My Great Grandmother was a Thompson. FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:16:38 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good evening to all. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:15:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: We have two Thompson brothers who are CCGS members but apparently they are no relation to you Jerry. There are photos of some of the gravestones of their kin on the Park Hill and Evergreen Memorial pages. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:13:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Thanks partly to my web page, I've connected this past week with three cousins from my maternal grandmother's Soden family. One is a great granddaughter of Rock Soden; one is a great grandson of Maude Soden Dittmer McMullen Crosby and the other a great great grandson of Elmina Soden Edmonds. The only one I had met previously was the Dittmer kin. What fun to share information. Rock, Maude and Elmina were all siblings of my grandmother Sarah Soden Mathys. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:11:14 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Gnight Marge! FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:10:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Bye Marge. See you next week. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:09:12 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Night Marge. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:08:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I am just looking through the earlier entriesPat. That is really great! FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:08:42 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Kids: gotta get some housework done... I've been neglecting my assigned chores lately... "Stuff" is piling up here at Humble House... see ya next week... bye FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:08:00 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jerry - did you see that a CCGS member is related to that McAllister family? She was one thrilled lady! FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:06:45 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: FATHER: # ID: I1868 # Name: Baylis CLOUD # Surname: Cloud # Given Name: Baylis # Sex: M # Birth: Jan 1777 in Willow Glen, Frederick, Virginia 1 2 3 # Death: 30 Nov 1860 in Logan Twp., Dearborn, Indiana 4 5 6 # Burial: Logan Corner Baptist Cemetery, Logan, Dearborn, Indiana 7 8 # Reference Number: 76 # Note: CENSUS: 1850 - Logan, Dearborn Co., Ind. 74 years old, farmer, can read and write. BOMIS00001.1 1810 - Boone Co, KY page 58. 2 male & 1 female under 10, one male & female 26-45. BOMIS00003 Lived in Virginia and Indania, BOMIS00023.6 Also Kenutcky and Ohio. He had a quarter lot in Cincinnati, BOMIS00030 Other land he owned listed on BOMIS00033.2 He was a private in Capt. James Mc Guire's company in the War of 1812 (18 Jun). He volunteered in Laurenuburgh, Dearborn Co., Indiana territory on 1 Sep 1812 for six months. He was honorably discharged 1 Mar 1813. BOMIS00029.2 Muster Rolls and bounty land grants. BOMIS00029.3-7 His last will and testamony. BOMIS00031.1-2 He was about 18 yrs old when the family moved from Virginia to Kentucky in 1794. He was in the 1800 tax lists in Boone Co.,Ky 20 Aug 1800. He was amember ofthe Bullettsburg Baptist Church near Hebron, Boone, Ky. He moved across the Ohio river into Dearborn Co., Ind. about 1811. Water's land Entries list Balis Cloud 29 Nov 1811, Dearborn Co., Ind. He lived and died in Logans' Corners where he was a member of the Logans Corners Regular Baptist Church. BOMIS00055.40 Father: William CLOUD b: 1745/1746 in , Frederick, Virginia Mother: Leah Jane JONES b: 1742/1747 in , Frederick, Virginia Marriage 1 Elizabeth Ann TEBBS b: 18 Jul 1785 in , Prince William, Virginia * Married: 27 Sep 1803 in , Boone, Kentucky 13 14 4 Children 1. Mason Jones CLOUD b: 1805 in , Boone, Kentucky 2. Jared CLOUD b: 17 Mar 1808 in , Boone, Kentucky 3. Elizabeth CLOUD b: ABT 1810 in , Boone, Kentucky 4. Vivian CLOUD b: 16 Oct 1812 in , Dearborn, Indiana 5. Daniel CLOUD b: 16 Oct 1812 in , Dearborn, Indiana 6. Moses CLOUD b: 1814 in , Dearborn, Indiana 7. Aaron CLOUD b: 1816 in , Dearborn, Indiana 8. Willoughby CLOUD b: 1818 in , Dearborn, Indiana 9. Margaret J. CLOUD b: 1822 in , Dearborn, Indiana 10. Louisa CLOUD b: 1824 in , Dearborn, Indiana 11. Janette CLOUD b: 1826 in , Dearborn, Indiana 12. Andrew Jackson CLOUD b: 30 Mar 1828 in Logan Twp., Dearborn, Indiana 13. Ann Kesiah CLOUD b: 1830 in , Dearborn, Indiana FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:06:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: http://www.dearborncounty.org/history.html FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:05:28 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Joy. I see you have been busy. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:04:22 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jerry FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:03:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: http://home.att.net/~Local_History/Dearborn-Co-IN.htm FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:03:23 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: WorldConnect by Linda Thompson http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1634327&i d=I114 # ID: I114 # Name: Daniel CLOUD # Surname: Cloud # Given Name: Daniel # Sex: M # Birth: 16 Oct 1812 in , Dearborn, Indiana 1 2 # Death: May 1877 in , Dearborn, Indiana 3 4 # Reference Number: 38 CENSUS: 1850 - Harrison Twp., Dearborn Co., Indiana, 37 years old, farmer, $1500 real estate. BOCEN00001.2 FGR, BOMIS00023.6 shows he was born in 1820 and married to Myra Mayoll. Also Archive Record FGR, BOMIS00022.7 He bought land from William A. J. Williamson on 8 Aug 1856, boundries are Harrison Twp, from the mouth of the Great Miami River & bounded in form. He bought from John W. H. Monroe on 25 Dec 1843, 68 acres; from Bayliss Cloud est. 30 Jul 1869. He sold land to George T. Hudson 14 Jan 1874, 53 1/2 acres. He sold 80 acres to Ames D. Krewson on 4 Sep 1866; 59 acres to William Wormsley on 4 Sep 1876; 40 acres to Ann Cassaday 22 Dec 1877; 1/2 acre to Trustee Harrison. BOMIS00017.1-8 and BOMIS00033.1-2 He bought land from Elkanah Hathaway 30 Sep 1845 and 7 Nov 1845. BOMIS00020.1-3 and BOMIS00021.1-3 IGI has a Daniel CLOUD born 18 Dec 1820. #456299. Father: Baylis CLOUD b: Jan 1777 in Willow Glen, Frederick, Virginia Mother: Elizabeth Ann TEBBS b: 18 Jul 1785 in , Prince William, Virginia Marriage 1 Naomi HATHAWAY b: ABT 1812 in of, , Dearborn, Indiana * Married: 21 Mar 1833 in , Dearborn, Indiana 9 10 Children 1. Emily CLOUD b: 1834 in , , Indiana 2. Charity CLOUD b: 1836 in , , Indiana 3. Merrick CLOUD b: 1839 in , , Indiana 4. Harriet CLOUD b: 1842 in , , Indiana 5. Gilbert CLOUD b: 1843 in , Clinton, Indiana 6. John CLOUD b: 1843 in , , Indiana 7. Anthony CLOUD b: 1846 in , , Indiana Marriage 2 Elizabeth Ann TUMEY b: 1817 in , , Pennsylvania * Married: 7 Feb 1849 in , Dearborn, Indiana 11 10 Children 1. Virginia CLOUD b: 25 Dec 1849 in Buncombe, Champaign, Indiana 2. Charles D. CLOUD b: 1855 in , , Indiana 3. Fenton CLOUD b: 1856/1858 in , , Indiana 4. Thomas Jefferson CLOUD b: 1857/1860 in , , Indiana Sources: 1. Title: Olive Stutz.... Page: BOMIS00027.2 Note: Date. He was a TWIN. FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:03:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Greetings everyone. FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:02:38 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy: IF you could find a will from the target's father that mentioned "my beloved son, Ferdinand", wouldn't that (sort of) be a documentation of little Ferd's birth? FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:00:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: One place Sue might find information on the birth of her GG grandfather would be a local paper. The weeklies had great stories - especially when there were twin born. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:58:43 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: That's great Joy. Maybe you could give a class on it sometime! We all need help! FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:58:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I saw that, Pat, but I think it's pretty slim to find an actual documentation of a birth from that era. Maybe. I'll take a look FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:57:45 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: It inspired me to write out a rough "methodology" of how I research a project. I figured maybe someday it could help spur some ideas for someone else FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:57:20 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy - you did a great job. I'll send Letha and Ralph the link to find the transcript tomorrow so maybe it will add a bunch more to their family tree! I've posted another query - unless you're all queried out tonight. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:56:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: welcome Back, Nancy FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:55:44 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I'm glad they enjoyed it Marge. It was fun for us, too FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:55:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: My two FHC co-workers (PJ and MissRonnie) were also quite impressed... FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:54:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi everyone FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:54:48 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: MUCH favorable feedback from our membership re: last Wednesday's event FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:51:31 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Fantastic Marge. How about sending it to me, then it won't get lost in the shuffle. I have to prepare the container for the tickets anyway. I'll send you my address in a private note. FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:50:07 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: CCGS: as a Thank-you, we'd like to donate a book (brand-new and still in the shrink-wrap) that you can use for a drawing at your upcoming seminar. We need to have an address, tho... it's a "coffee-table book" about Snohomish County FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:49:46 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: That's supposed to be KIN, not KIND, but I'm sure she will be kind to the photos! I keep either adding or deleting the ending of words! FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:48:07 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat, I do love success stories! That's great! FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:48:00 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I've posted a new query, in case someone wants to work on it. AND - I already have something to post tomorrow for next week. FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:47:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Nancy - Joy was really busy with the query this week. We've had success at finding kind for the albums! And it's a member of CCGS which makes it doubly successful. Letha was one excited lady when she called me. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:46:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi folks, Lots of good info, thanks Joy! FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:44:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: This query came from Sue Mills: "Looking for ideas where I may look for documents or documentation on the birth of my GG Grandfather, Daniel William CLOUD who was born 16 October 1812 in Dearborn Co., Indiana. Daniel William Cloud has many descendants in Clark County and Multnomah County, OR. Daniel was the twin of Vivian CLOUD. Father was Baylis CLOUD, Born 2 January 1777, at Willow Glen, Frederick Co., VA, Died 30 November 1860, at Logan Township, Dearborn Co, Indiana Married ?27 September 1803, at Boone Co., Kentucky to Mother was Elizabeth (Betsy) Ann TEBBS Born 18 July 1785, at Prince William Co., Virginia, Died 4 15 April 1866,at Dearborn Co., Indiana Daniel's marriage to Neoma HATHAWAY on 21 March, 1833 is documented on page 7, the ‘Dearborn Co. Indiana Marriages 1806-1833.' 1850 Census Dearborn Co. Indiana: Daniel is shown with wife Elizabeth (his 2nd wife) and son Anthony CLOUD age 6, but I believe this to be age 4 which agrees with Anthony's age shown in military records and his death certificate. 1860 Census in Dearborn Co. with wife Elizabeth and son Anthony CLOUD age 13. Anthony is my Great Grandfather. Your friends' ideas would be helpful to me I am sure." FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:43:17 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat: have to be AFK for about 5 minutes... brb... FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 2:43:03 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Marge! Nice to see you again this evening. That was so much fun last week - hope we can do it again sometime! As you can see, we've had great success with the brick wall this week. I do have another subject I'm going to post so I can keep the "Chatters" busy this evening. This one came to us via e-mail. Be right back! FROM: glen Jones on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 15:26:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Whoops! that should be company coming FROM: glen Jones on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 15:25:36 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy Thank You for all your work, it is great. The Great Great Grandaughter is a member of CCGS. I will not be able to get on genchat tonight have coming coming from out of town this afternoon. I will be getting the albums to the person the 26th when I am Librarian. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:26:26 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: That's it so far and since a relative has been found, I won't search any further. :) FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:25:49 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Michigan Deaths, 1971-1996 about David D Thompson Name: David D Thompson Birth Date: 3 Mar 1908 Death Date: 5 Oct 1977 Gender: Male RESIDENCE: Royal Oak, Oakland, Michigan Place of Death: Bloomfield, Oakland, Michigan Social Security Death Index about David Thompson Name: David Thompson SSN: 376-03-4082 Last Residence: 48067 Royal Oak, Oakland, Michigan, United States of America Born: 3 Mar 1908 Died: Oct 1977 State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951) Subject: Death records/notice/obit Material Type: Newspaper City \ Township: Waterford Township Citation: The Oakland Press Date: 12/29/2006 Surname \ Title: THOMPSON, ROBERT L. Waterford; December 29, 2006; age 61. Devoted father of Jeffrey Thompson of Shelby Twp. and Amanda Thompson of Detroit; dear friend and former husband of Lauralee Thompson of Waterford; beloved brother of Carolyn (Gary) Hommell, Lucy (Gay) Moery, Celia Sheffield, Denlse DiMiceli; and preceded i n d e a t h by David Thompson, Floyd Dennis Thompson and Sue Pearson;. also survived by many nieces and nephews. Mr. Thompsonwas a construction worker and was a proud veteran of the United States Army. He brightened everyone with his humor and lived his life for his children, whom he adored. Funeral Services will be Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 10:30 a.m. at the RIVERSIDE CHAPEL, Simpson-Modetz Funeral Home, 5630 Pontiac Lake Road, Waterford. The family will receive friends at the funeral home Monday 2 to 8 p.m. Interment White Chapel Memorial Cemetery. Memorials may be made to the American Lung Association. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:25:34 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Possible Second marriage for David D Thompson Name: Ruth D. Thompson Birth date: 12 Mar 1900 Birth place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Gender: Female Race or color (on document): Father name: David D. Thompson Father birth place: Scotland Age of father: Mother name: Janet Thompson Mother birth place: Canada Mother age: Christening date: Christening place: Additional relatives: Death date: Age at death: Film number: 2363032 Digital GS number: 4208757 Image number: 197 Frame number: Reference number: item 1 p 355 rn 5321 Collection: Michigan Births 1867-1902 1900 Census Ward 1, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan 11 June 1900 97 Piquette Ave Thompson, Eralsey F, head, w, m, Feb 1876, 24, m, 2, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland, Cartage Agt Belle H, wife, w, f, Nov 1876, 23, m, 2, Canada, England, England, 1876, 24 WWI Draft Registration Eralsey Ferguson Thompson ??? ??? Park, Yonkers, West., NY Age: 43, born: Feb 9, 1875 White, native born Manager, A J Johnson & Sons Furn. Co 141 Madison Ave, NYC, NY, NY Nearest Relative, Belle P Thompson (wife) Are???? Villa Park, Yonkers, West., NY Medium height, medium build, Brown eyes, brown hair 12 Sept 1918 1920 Census Yonkers, Ward 10, Westchester, New York 14 January 1920 63 Cassilus Ave Thompson, Eralsey F, head, m, w, 42, m, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland, Representations Salesman, Furniture Belle P?, wife, f, w, 30?, m, 1889?, na, 1894, Canada, Wales, England Parry, Mary J, mother-in-law, f, w, 73, w, 1859, Na, Unknown, England, England, England Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Yonkers Ward 10, Westchester, New York; Roll: T625_1281; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 270; Image: 513. =============== ELIZABETH THOMPSON Groom name: James D. Anderson Groom race or color (on document): Groom age: 22 years Groom birth year: 1865 Groom birth place: Detroit Bride name: Elizabeth Thompson Bride race or color (on document): Bride age: 24 years Bride birth year: 1863 Bride birth place: Toronto, Ont. Marriage type: Marriage date: 01 Jun 1887 Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Father of groom name: Mother of groom name: Father of bride name: Mother of bride name: Marital status: Groom previous wife name: Bride marital status: Bride previous husband name: Additional relatives: Film number: 2342482 Frame number: Digital GS number: 4207677 Image number: 453 Reference number: v 3 p 452 rn 4639 Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925 ============= LEMUEL THOMPSON WWI Draft Registration Lemuel Knight Thompson 1955 Third Ave - Detroit, Wayne, Mich age: 41, Born: June 10, 1877 White, native born Manager - Thompson Cartage Co (in business for himself) 38 Richmond Ave, Detroit, Wayne, Mich Nearest Relative: Maud E Thompson, 1955 Third Ave, Detroit, Wayne, Mich Short, Stout, Dark Brown eyes, Dark brown hair filed 12 Sept 1918 1920 Census Detroit, Wayne, Michigan District 16, Ward 4 17 January 1920 1955 3rd Ave Thompson, Lemuel K, head, m, w, 42, m, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland, owner Cartage Co Maude, wife, f, w, 42, m, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan David D, son, m, w, 11, s, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Detroit Ward 4, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: T625_805; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 152; Image: 1084. 1910 Census 3rd Ward, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan 23 April 1910 Thompson, Lemuel K, head, m, w, 32, m1, 3, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland, Manager, Truck Co. Maud E, wife, f, w, 32, m1, 3, 1/1, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan David, son, m, w, 2, s, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Detroit Ward 3, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: T624_681; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 43; Image: 415. 1930 Census Ward 4, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan 15 April 1930 8715 Third Ave Thompson, Lemuel K, head, m, w, 52, m, 29, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland, Special Agent, Transfer Co, served in WWI Maud, wife, f, w, 52, m, 28, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan David F?, son, m, w, 22, s, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Welfare, Auto Factory Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: 1035; Page: 15B; Enumeration District: 108; Image: 723.0. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:24:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Name: Emily Thompson Birth date: 09 Feb 1875 Birth place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Gender: Female Race or color (on document): Father name: David Thompson Father birth place: Scotland Age of father: Mother name: Margaret Mother birth place: Scotland Mother age: Christening date: Christening place: Additional relatives: Death date: Age at death: Film number: 2320526 Digital GS number: 4206447 Image number: 572 Frame number: Reference number: item 1 p 158 rn 1599 Collection: Michigan Births 1867-1902 Name: William Thompson Death date: 08 May 1893 Death place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Gender: Male Age at death: 20 years 6 months Estimated birth year: 1873 Birth place: Michigan Marital status: Single Father name: David Mother name: Margaret Occupation: Clerk Film number: 2342775 Digital GS number: 4210127 Image number: 103 Reference number: p 354 Collection: Michigan Deaths 1867-1897 Name: Thompson Birth date: 15 Dec 1869 Birth place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Gender: Male Race or color (on document): Father name: David Thompson Father birth place: Scotland Age of father: Mother name: Maggie Thompson Mother birth place: Mother age: Christening date: Christening place: Additional relatives: Death date: Age at death: Film number: 2297925 Digital GS number: 4016174 Image number: 483 Frame number: Reference number: item 2 p 173 rn 4363 Collection: Michigan Births 1867-1902 Name: Daniel D. Tompson Birth date: 07 Nov 1872 Birth place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Gender: Male Race or color (on document): Father name: David D. Thompson Father birth place: Scotland Age of father: Mother name: Margaret Thompson Mother birth place: Scotland Mother age: Christening date: Christening place: Additional relatives: Death date: Age at death: Film number: 2297932 Digital GS number: 4206336 Image number: 462 Frame number: Reference number: item 2 p 232 rn 1579 Collection: Michigan Births 1867-1902 Name: William W Tompson Birth date: 07 Nov 1872 Birth place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Gender: Male Race or color (on document): Father name: David D. Thompson Father birth place: Scotland Age of father: Mother name: Margaret Thompson Mother birth place: Scotland Mother age: Christening date: Christening place: Additional relatives: Death date: Age at death: Film number: 2297932 Digital GS number: 4206336 Image number: 462 Frame number: Reference number: item 2 p 232 rn 1578 Collection: Michigan Births 1867-1902 FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 12, 2009 3:23:22 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here's the Thompson information I researched... maybe it will be helpful to the family 1880 Census Detroit, Wayne, Michigan 14 June 1880 Page 48 197 13th St Thompson, David, w, m, 39, married, Team agent, Scotland, Scotland, Scotland Margaret, w, m, 40, wife, married, Keeping House, Scotland, Scotland, Scotland Elizabeth, w, f, 17, daughter, single, at school, Canada, Scotland, Scotland Mary L, w, f, 15, daughter, single, at school, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland Margaret, w, f, 12, daughter, single, at school, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland William W, w, m, 7, son, single, at school, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland (continued on page 49) Thompson, Erolsey, w, m, 5, son, single, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland Lemuel, w, m, 3, son, single, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: T9_613; Family History Film: 1254613; Page: 108.4000; Enumeration District: 297; Image: 0217. 1870 Census 9th Ward, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan 7 June 1870 Page 35 Thompson, David, 28, m, w, works at M.C. R.R. Scotland Margaret, 26, f, w, Keeping house, Scotland Elizabeth, 7, f, w, T. Canada Mary, 5, f, w, Mich Robert I, 4, m, w, Mich Maggie, 2, f, w, Mich Jennie, 5/12, f, w, Mich, Dec. Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Detroit Ward 9, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: M593_715; Page: 226; Image: 36. If T. Canada in the above record stands for Toronto Canada, it is possible that this is David & Margaret's marriage Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about David Thompson Name: David Thompson Birth Place: Scotland RESIDENCE: Toronto Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Father Name: George Mother Name: Mary Tolban Spouse Name: Margaret Ferguson Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Spouse Birth Place: Irvine Scotland Spouse Residence: Toronto Spouse Father Name: John Spouse Mother Name: Elizabeth Gilder Marriage Date: 1 Nov 1862 Marriage County: York (Toronto) Family History Library Microfilm: 1030065 and 1030066 Source: Indexed by: Genealogical Research Library Son "Ersalsey" T Thompson's married confirms Margaret's maiden name is Fergusen Groom name: Ersalsey T. Thompson Groom race or color (on document): Groom age: 22 years Groom birth year: 1875 Groom birth place: Detroit M Bride name: Mabel H. Parry Bride race or color (on document): Bride age: 21 years Bride birth year: 1876 Bride birth place: Windsor, Canada Marriage type: Marriage date: 01 Sep 1897 Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Father of groom name: D. D. Thompson Mother of groom name: Margaret J. Ferguson Father of bride name: John Parry Mother of bride name: Molly Strand Marital status: Groom previous wife name: Bride marital status: Bride previous husband name: Additional relatives: Film number: 2342508 Frame number: Digital GS number: 4207943 Image number: 446 Reference number: v 4 p 476 rn 23907 Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925 Son Lemuel's marriage also confirms it Groom name: Lemuel K. Thompson Groom race or color (on document): Groom age: 28 years Groom birth year: 1878 Groom birth place: Michigan Bride name: Maude E. Schmittdiel Bride race or color (on document): Bride age: 28 years Bride birth year: 1878 Bride birth place: Michigan Marriage type: Marriage date: 12 Jun 1906 Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Father of groom name: David D. Mother of groom name: Margaret Ferguson Father of bride name: John S. Mother of bride name: Fannie Ludwick Marital status: Groom previous wife name: Bride marital status: Bride previous husband name: Additional relatives: Film number: 2342676 Frame number: Digital GS number: 4208689 Image number: 152 Reference number: item 5 p 517 rn 50646 Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925 FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 11, 2009 23:33:14 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: We've found a relative who wants the books!! Letha Thompson in Vancouver is a great great granddaughter of James McAllister and I gave her Glen's phone number this afternoon to contact him. FROM: glen Jones on DATE-Feb 10, 2009 22:55:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy. You have found pretty much the McAllister's from the info I have in the Albums. The family Here in Portland does not want them, I have posted the info as I said on the Michigan rootsweb and also to the Detroit Genelalogical Society FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:26:43 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: If anyone checks in and wants to run from the McAllister side, please do. I'm going to focus on the Thompsons now. Joy FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:25:49 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: James McAllister (senior) with his parents & siblings. This is a starting point for someone to pursue other lines than direct descendants Of James & Mary L (Thompson) McAllister FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:24:15 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: MARGARET T MCALLISTER Nothing found on her except 1910 & 1920 on census with family FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:23:25 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Probably Son Donald M Social Security Death Index about Donald M. MacPherson Name: Donald M. MacPherson SSN: 362-22-4601 Born: 2 Mar 1924 Died: 23 May 1983 State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951) Michigan Deaths, 1971-1996 about Donald M MacPherson Name: Donald M MacPherson Birth Date: 2 Mar 1924 Death Date: 24 May 1983 Gender: Male RESIDENCE: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Place of Death: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Probably son Robert C MacPherson Social Security Death Index about Robert C. MacPherson Name: Robert C. MacPherson SSN: 369-20-2248 Last Residence: 97267 Portland, Clackamas, Oregon, United States of America Born: 20 Dec 1925 Died: 21 Jul 2001 State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951) Oregonian, The (Portland, OR) - July 28, 2001 -------------------- Deceased Name: Robert C. MacPherson A funeral will be at 1 p.m. Monday, July 30, 2001, in Mt. Scott Funeral Home for Robert C. MacPherson, who died July 21 at age 75. Mr. MacPherson was born Dec. 20, 1925, in Detroit, Mich. He served in the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II. He moved to Portland about 1950 and was a field service manager for General Motors for 30 years until retiring in 1981. In 1951, he married Rhea Lee; she died in 1993. Survivors include his son, Robert A. Interment in Willamette National Cemetery. Oregonian, The (Portland, OR) Date: July 28, 2001 Edition: SUNRISE Page: C06 Record Number: 0107280276 Copyright (c) 2001 Oregonian Publishing Co. === U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 about Rhea MacPherson Name: Rhea MacPherson Service Info.: PVT US ARMY AIR CORPS Birth Date: 10 Sep 1933 Death Date: 9 Oct 1993 Relation: Wife of MacPherson, Robert Crawford Interment Date: 13 Oct 1993 Cemetery: Willamette National Cemetery Cemetery Address: 11800 SE MT. Scott Boulevard Portland, OR 97266 Buried At: Section X Site 2024 === U.S. Phone and Address Directories, 1993-2002 about Robert MacPherson Name: Robert MacPherson Spouse: Rhea Address: 5229 SE Hill Rd City: Portland State: Oregon Zip Code: 97267-1706 Phone Number: 503-652-1558 Residence Years: 1993 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 Possible for Surviving son Robert A U.S. Public Records Index about Robert A MacPherson Name: Robert A MacPherson Street address: 10215 SE Long St City: Portland County: Multnomah State: Oregon Zip Code: 97266 Record Number: 65438470 U.S. Public Records Index about Robert A MacPherson Name: Robert A MacPherson Street address: 5229 SE Hill Rd City: Portland County: Clackamas State: Oregon Zip Code: 97267 Phone Number: 503-786-0105 Record Number: 267451083 Associated Persons: Name Est. Age Birth Year Robert A MacPherson L Patrick U.S. Public Records Index about Robert A MacPherson Name: Robert A MacPherson Birth Date: Jul 1960 Street address: 11670 SW Baker St City: Beaverton County: Washington State: Oregon Zip Code: 97008 Phone Number: 503-644-6939 Record Number: 293011344 Associated Persons: Name Est. Age Birth Year Robert A MacPherson 48 1960 Ruban McNeal Paul Mina ==== So Robert A MacPherson is a potential for a living contact FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:23:20 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: MARIE L MCALLISTER Michigan Births 1867-1902 Name: Mary L Mcallister Birth date: 21 Mar 1895 Birth place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Gender: Female Race or color (on document): Father name: James A. Mcallister Father birth place: Canada Age of father: Mother name: Mary L Mother birth place: Canada Mother age: Christening date: Christening place: Additional relatives: Death date: Age at death: Film number: 2322566 Digital GS number: 4206351 Image number: 1112 Frame number: Reference number: item 2 p 169 rn 2533 Collection: Michigan Births 1867-1902 Michigan Marriages 1868-1925 Groom name: A. Murray Macpherson Groom race or color (on document): Groom age: 29 years Groom birth year: 1890 Groom birth place: Canada Bride name: Marie L. Mcallister Bride race or color (on document): Bride age: 23 years Bride birth year: 1896 Bride birth place: Michigan Marriage type: Marriage date: 14 Jun 1919 Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Father of groom name: Alexander Mother of groom name: Phoebe Rook Father of bride name: James A. Mother of bride name: Mary Thompson Marital status: Groom previous wife name: Bride marital status: Bride previous husband name: Additional relatives: Film number: 2342734 Frame number: Digital GS number: 4210041 Image number: 226 Reference number: v 8 p 405 rn 175900 Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925 WWI Draft Registration Alexander Murray MacPherson age: 27 2929 W G Boulevard, Detroit, Mich born: July 5, 1889, Winnepeg, Manitoba, Canada Alien, has not declared intention British subject Shoe Merchant, the Clay Booterie, 369 Clay Ave Single, Caucasian Medium height, medium build, blue eyes, dark brown hair filed June 5, 1917 1920 Census Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Ward 14 163 Seeboldt Avenue Macpherson, Alexander M, head, m, w, 36, m, 1914, PA, Canada, Canada, Canada, Tire merchant, store Marie L, wife, f, w, 23, m, Michigan, Canada, Michigan Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Detroit Ward 14, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: T625_813; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 436; Image: 844. 1930 Census Ward 12, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan April 8, 1930 3315 Clemente Ave MacPherson, Alex M, head, m, w, 40, m, 29, Canada, Canada, Canada Marie L, wife, f, w, 33, m, Michigan, Canada, Michigan James A, son, m, w, 9, s, Michigan, Canada, Michigan Donald M, son, m, w, 6, s, Michigan, Canada, Michigan Robert C, son, m, w, 4 4/12, s, Michigan, Canada, Michigan Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: 1046; Page: 11B; Enumeration District: 1088; Image: 364.0. Michigan Deaths, 1971-1996 about Marie L MacPherson Name: Marie L MacPherson Birth Date: 21 Mar 1996 Death Date: 9 Jun 1977 Gender: Female RESIDENCE: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Place of Death: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan [note: the 1996 for the birth is a transcription error. It should be 1896] FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:21:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: JAMES A MCALLISTER JR Michigan Births 1867-1902 Name: James A Mc Allister Birth date: 05 Apr 1891 Birth place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Gender: Male Race or color (on document): Father name: James Mc Allister Father birth place: Ontario Father occupation: Advertiser Age of father: Mother name: Mary Mc Allister Mother birth place: Ontario Mother age: Christening date: Christening place: Additional relatives: Death date: Age at death: Film number: 2321272 Digital GS number: 4206334 Image number: 1495 Frame number: Reference number: item 3 p 200 rn 2996 Collection: Michigan Births 1867-1902 WWI Draft Registration Card James A McAllister age: 25 188 Gladstone Ave, Detroit born: April 5, 1892 Natural born Where: Detroit Michigan Occupation: Asst Salesman, (Can't read the company name, too faded) Single, Caucasian Medium height, Medium build, Blue eyes, Red hair filed 6 June 1917 Groom name: James A Mcallister Groom race or color (on document): Groom age: 33 years Groom birth year: 1892 Groom birth place: Mich Bride name: Frances A Buelter Bride race or color (on document): Bride age: 27 years Bride birth year: 1898 Bride birth place: Ohio Marriage type: Marriage date: 14 Apr 1925 Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Father of groom name: James Mother of groom name: Mary Thompson Father of bride name: Herman Mother of bride name: Mary A Schepers Marital status: Groom previous wife name: Bride marital status: Bride previous husband name: Additional relatives: Film number: 2342771 Frame number: Digital GS number: 4210009 Image number: 567 Reference number: v 10 p 213 rn 287744 Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925 1930 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan 3 April 1930 3288 Clements Ave Mc Allister, James A, head, m, w, 36, m, 31, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Salesman, store Frances A, wife, f, w, 31, m, 27, Ohio, Germany, Germany Mary A, daughter, f, w, 9/12, s, Michigan, Michigan, Ohio Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: 1046; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 1088; Image: 348.0. The girl on this census is probably the Mary McAllister mentioned with the probate record for Marie L (McAllister) MacPherson FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:20:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: GEORGE MCALLISTER PROBABLY George WWI Draft Registration Card George William McAllister age 26 411 Hibbard Ave, Detroit, Mich Born: November 21st 1890 natural born Born in Detroit, Michigan, USA Brewery worker, Stroh Brewery Co, Detroit, Mich Single, Caucasian Medium height, Medium Build, Blue Eyes, dark hair, not bald Filed 5 June 1917 Ward 19, precingt 3, Wayne, Michigan Order #2070 On census with parents 1900, 1920, 1930 FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:20:45 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: DAVID MCALLISTER Michigan Births 1867-1902 Name: David Mcallister Birth date: 16 Oct 1888 Birth place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Gender: Male Race or color (on document): Father name: James Mcallister Father birth place: Michigan Age of father: Mother name: Mary Mcallister Mother birth place: Michigan Mother age: Christening date: Christening place: Additional relatives: Death date: Age at death: Film number: 2321097 Digital GS number: 4206429 Image number: 595 Frame number: Reference number: item 3 p 165 rn 2470 Collection: Michigan Births 1867-1902 On 1900 Census with parents. Haven't found him after that. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:20:20 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: 1930 Census 814 Gladstone Ave McAllister, Mary L, head, f, w, 63, wd, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland, Housekeeper, Rooming house George, son, m, w, 39, m, 34, Michigan, Canada, Michigan, Dliver, cli?? Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: 1035; Page: 18A; Enumeration District: 108; Image: 728.0. FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 9, 2009 22:19:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here's some info to get things started: JAMES ALFRED MCALLISTER & MARY L THOMPSON Michigan Marriages 1868-1925 Groom name: James C. Mcallister Groom race or color (on document): Groom age: 24 years Groom birth year: 1863 Groom birth place: Canada Bride name: Mary L. Thompson Bride race or color (on document): Bride age: 22 years Bride birth year: 1865 Bride birth place: Michigan Marriage type: Marriage date: 20 Oct 1887 Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Father of groom name: David Mcallister Mother of groom name: Jennie Kenny Father of bride name: D. D. Thompson Mother of bride name: Marital status: Groom previous wife name: Bride marital status: Bride previous husband name: Additional relatives: Film number: 2342482 Frame number: Digital GS number: 4207677 Image number: 372 Reference number: v 3 p 536 rn 189 Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925 1900 Census Detroit, Wayne, Michigan 7th Precinct, 5th Ward 8 June 1900 Hancock? Ave McAllister, James H, head, w, m, Nov 1862, 37, m, 12, Canada, Ireland, Ireland, 1865, 35, Na, Laundryman Mary L, wife, w, f, Sept 1864, 35, m, 12, 4/4 Canada, Scotland, Scotland, 1866, 34 David D, son, w, m, Oct 1888, 11, s, Michigan, Canada, Canada, Scholar George H, son, w, m, Nov 1890, 9, s, Michigan, Canada, Canada, Scholar James A, son, w, m, Apr 1892, 8, s, Michigan, Canada, Canada, Scholar Marie L, daughter, w, f, Mar 1896, 4, s, Michigan, Canada, Canada Margaret, Sister-in-law, w, f, May 1870, 30, s, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland, Music Teacher Ralphs, Mary, servant, w, f, Nov 1879, 20, s, England, England, England, 1896, 4, Domestic Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Detroit Ward 5, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: T623_749 Page: 13B; Enumeration District: 54. 1910 Census Detroit, Wayne, Michigan 5th Ward 23 April 1910 312 Hancock? Ave McAllister, James A, head, w, m, 47, m1, 22, Canada, Ireland, Ireland, 1865, Pa, Adertiser, Detroit ???? Mary L, wife, w, f, 45, m1, 22, 5/4 Michigan, Scotland, Scotland, James A jr, son, w, m, 18, s, Michigan, Canada, Michigan, Clerk, stove works Mary L, daughter, w, f, 14, s, Michigan, Canada, Michigan Margaret T, daughter, w, f, 6, s, Michigan, Canada, Michigan Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Detroit Ward 5, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: T624_682; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 74; Image: 420. 1920 Census Detroit, Wayne, Michigan District 16, Ward 4 17 January 1920 188 Gladstone Ave McAllister, Jas A, head, w, m, 58, m, 1864, na, 1883, Canada, Ireland, Ireland, Advertisement Salesman, Newspaper Mary L, wife, w, f, 56, m, 1865, na 1885?, Canada, Scotland, Scotland, none George W, son, m, w, 30, s, Michigan, Canada, Canada, Shipping Clerk, ??? Company Jas A jr, son, w, m, 28, s, Michigan, Canada, Canada, salesman, store Margaret, daughter, w, f, 15, s, Michigan, Canada, Canada, none On the same page: 1955 3rd Ave Thompson, Lemuel K, head, m, w, 42, m, Michigan, Scotland, Scotland, owner Cartage Co Maude, wife, f, w, 42, m, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan David D, son, m, w, 11, s, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Detroit Ward 4, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: T625_805; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 152; Image: 1084. Lemuel Thompson is Mary (Thompson) McAllister's younger brother FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 6, 2009 2:30:00 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Just checking to see if this posted o.k. It's looking good and sounds like a fun one. See you next Thursday! FROM: Nancy & Pat on DATE-Feb 6, 2009 2:29:05 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Nancy Elder Petersen and Patricia McKee Bauer, along with several regular visitors, will be staffing the GenChat room beginning about 6:45 p.m. Thursday evening, February 12. We close the door about 9:00 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. We have visitors who will give you a willing helping hand with your genealogy brick walls. You can enter questions or answers at any time but we hope you will be able to join us when we are open for discussions. BRICKWALL PROJECT: This is from our Education Director Glen Jones: "A friend of my wife's brother was helping a friend whose father had died, this person was going to throw out a bunch of photo albums and he retrieved them. they ask me if it would be possible to locate descendants that might want them as none of the family here wants them. Dates in the albums that I am looking at now go back to the early 1800's with the most recent dates 1982. The names are McAllister Family, Detroit Michigan graveyard photos 1982. Other names and photos as well as birth and death notices in the albums are David Dewar Thompson, 2 Mar 1908, 5 Oct. 1977 Born Aberdeen Scotland, Mother Mary L. McAllister 1890 date on photo, David came to Detroit, Mich. in 1865. David D. McAllister Born Goderich, Canada. James Alfred McAllister. Record of Birth for Daughter Maria L. McAllister 21 MAr. 1896 State of Michigan County Of Wayne, Detroit. Probate record for Marie L. McPherson (McAllister) with heirs listed as. Marie L. McPherson Dau. Margaret Pittard Dau. Margaret McAllister Grand daughter Mary McAllister Granddaughter Margaret and Mary Daughters of Deceased Son James A. McAllister. Another Name; Alexander Murry MacPherson. The McAllister name is often spelled as MacAllister. The albums not only contain family photos but photos of Canadian Pacific Railroad, and the Rockies, David was a agent for the railroad. I have only looked at three of the albums what info is in the other I do not know. It would be nice to locate descendants of these families to see if they want these albums." Please click on the "log-out" button (lower right) before you leave. 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