February 19, 2009
Remember to begin reading this transcript from the bottom to the top!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:59:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
looks like it's time to call it quits for another week. I'll grab the transcript and post it ASAP. See
you next week. Goodnight all!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:59:17 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Gnight All!
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:58:59 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Time for bed. :)
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:58:38 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
That should keep Margaret busy for a bit. She will see the transcript tomorrow.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:58:02 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Yes, Pat
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:57:54 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
C 13 Wis Inf
Widows pension applied 1890 May 7
app no 422.065
cert no 342.114
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:57:28 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Are you doing a soundex search Joy?
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:56:28 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pension file to pursue
Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934
about Daniel Koerth
Name: Daniel Koerth
State Filed: Wisconsin
Widow: Wilhelmine Koerth
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:55:10 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Wisconsin Deaths, 1820-1907
about Louisa Kurth
Name: Louisa Kurth
Death Date: 05 Dec 1893
County: Milwaukee
Volume: 19
Page #: 0058
Reel: 076
Image: 1499
Index Volume: 06
ImageNum: 102952
Sequence #: 214466
Level Info: Wisconsin Vital Records Death Index.
Wisconsin Deaths, 1820-1907
about Louisa U T Kurth
Name: Louisa U T Kurth
Death Date: 09 Jan 1889
County: Oconto
Volume: 01
Page #: 0125
Reel: 101
Image: 1097
Index Volume: 01
ImageNum: 102952
Sequence #: 214467
Level Info: Wisconsin Vital Records Death Index.
Wisconsin Deaths, 1820-1907
about Louise Kurth
Name: Louise Kurth
Death Date: 17 Jun 1855
County: Fond Du Lac
Volume: 03
Page #: 0329
Reel: 028
Image: 1687
Index Volume: -
ImageNum: 102952
Sequence #: 214468
Level Info: Wisconsin Vital Records Death Index.
Wisconsin Deaths, 1820-1907
about Louis Kurth
Name: Louis Kurth
Death Date: 27 Jun 1888
County: Milwaukee
Volume: 09
Page #: 0110
Reel: 067
Image: 0315
Index Volume: 03
ImageNum: 102952
Sequence #: 214465
Level Info: Wisconsin Vital Records Death Index.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:48:25 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
At least the census taker spelled the name the same way all through that one! What a find! Good
job Joy.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:46:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1870 United States Federal Census
about Daniel Kjort
Name: Daniel Kjort
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Age in 1870: 45
Birthplace: Brandenburg
Home in 1870: Maple Grove, Manitowoc, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View Image
Post Office: Kasson
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Kjort 45
Wilameen Kjort 40
August Kjort 14
Odielia Kjort 12
Pauline Kjort 8
Wilameen Kjort 6
Amelia Kjort 2
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:45:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
In Maple Grove as Daniel and Wilhelmina KJORT
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:44:24 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Found son Daniel Koerth in 1870 in Manitowoc County...
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:37:55 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Cemetery entry:
Full Name: Hanson George Catlett
Location: Section:Confederate Field, Section 2 (D)
Row:A Number:12
Reason for Eligibility: Approved, Texas State Cemetery Committee; Republic of Texas
Veteran; Veteran, Mexican - American War, Indian Agent, State of Texas; Postmaster, City of
Austin
Birth Date: 1808
Died: August 19, 1854
Buried: Cenotaph
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:34:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
LOL, Pat. You're right
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:34:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Joy,
I'll listen closely, but you
said you couldn't hear our outside
Evening Concerts on the Terrace last summer,
and some were really loud!
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:31:38 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Gee, Pat, between you and me, I'm surprised they can't hear us snoring. LOL
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:31:13 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
No luck at all on the search for Louise/Louisa Körth or Ludwig/Lewis/Louis Körth in the 1870
census.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:30:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
CATLETT, HANSON GEORGE (1808 ~ 1854) Hanson George Catlett was born in 1808 in
Hagerstown, Maryland to Grandison Catlett and Mary "Polly" Gassaway. Not much is known
about Hanson's childhood in Maryland, except that he had one sister, Mary, and three older
half-sisters. Apparently, Grandison Catlett had an adventuresome spirit and was not well liked by
Polly's father. When Hanson was less than 10 years old, his rich grandfather, Charles Gassaway,
died but did not include the Catlett children in his will like he did the half-sisters. While Hanson
was still a teenager, his father went to Kentucky, leaving his family in Maryland.
In 1832, Hanson married Eleanor Anne Bayne in Prince George's County, Maryland. It wasn't
long before he was looking for adventure, opportunity and maybe, just some "elbow room." The
letters that he wrote home showed how excited he was to go to Texas and how optimistic he was
about making some good land deals and bringing his family to Texas.
He sailed from New Orleans and wrote home for the first time from Brazoria, on October 24,
1836, seven days after arriving in Texas. The first letter stated, "My health is much better than it
has been for several years." Apparently, when Hanson left Maryland, he didn't know for sure if he
was going all of the way to Texas, because he wrote to Ellen, "In my last letter to you from
Orleans I informed you of my intention to come to Texas." He also mentions receiving her letters
"directed to Orleans and Natchus."
more...
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:29:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
More about "HANSON GEORGE CATLETT"
at
http://www.cemetery.state.tx.us/pub/user_form.asp?step=1&pers_id=8870<
/A>
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:26:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret,
Look forward to seeing you!
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:25:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thank you all. I will be logging out now. Husband Chris has just come home, so I shall attend to
the duties of home and children. I know that I can do this now. Look for me again!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:24:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Just ignore me if I'm really quiet tonight. These antihistamine things cause me to be extremely
sleepy. I've caught myself dozing off a couple of times!
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:21:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hey, that is it Nancy. Good find.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:19:02 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Clicked on WorldCat libraries,
several listed, including
Stanford University Lane Medical Library
Stanford, CA 94305
The Medical world.
Type: Journal, magazine : Periodical; English
Publisher: Boston : [s.n.], 1856-1857.
OCLC: 7853642
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:14:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Page 49
A Mr. HG Catlett relates the following dreadful case in a New York paper, of his own condition,
which was happily relieved. The disease originated upon the ...
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:13:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret,
Hooray! We love success stories,
large and small!
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:12:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi all-I made it back and I logged in ALL BY MYSELF!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:12:33 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Jerry,
I found a Google entry online
at
Medical World:
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=KstXAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22Medical+World%22+jou
rnal&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=V5rRTafbED&sig=HD9pmXScWa9dIXXmoHiLID
QBybs&ei=fi2eSa6fOoG0sAPTq6i7CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:12:01 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Margaret - you made it! Welcome back.
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:10:04 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I have done some looking but can find no reference to this Journal.
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:08:37 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I got this email from Mary Helen Allen a couple of days ago:
The following is an article from the Medical World A Journal of Universal. Found this online and
it really blew me away. My grandfather died in 1854 at a fairly young age in Texas, we don't
know of what. The Medical World A Journal Intelligence, taken from a New York newspaper
before August 19, 1854 when my great great grandfather, Hanson George Catlett died. This New
York newspaper must still exist. Just wondering if you have any resourses for any NY
Newspapers. The Journal was published in 1857.
Thanks,
Mary Helen Allen
Columbia Missouri
The Medical World A Journal of Universal Intelligence
By J.V.C. Smith, M.D.
& Edward Sutton Smth, M.D.
Vol. I
Boston: Damrell & Moore & George Coolidge
Published 1857
Cancer: A Mr. H.G. Catlett relates the following dreadful case in a New York paper, of his own
condition, which was happily relieved. "The disease originated upon the cheek bone, near the
outer corner of my right eye, and continued to spread upon the bone before developing itself upon
the surface. Dr. Gilbert put me under treatment, at Memphis, on the 23rd September, 1852. The
raw surface was then larger than a dollar, but extended nearly over the entire side of my face upon
the bone. The doctor took out my eye, removed all the flesh and the entire surface of the cheek
and jaw-bone from my eyebrow to my gums; and from my ear to my nose, and the roof of my
mouth, two openings were made through into my nose; all of my jaw teeth, a part of the eyebrow,
and the entire socket bone of the eye, were removed, and all without the use of the knife. There
has been no appearance of disease since April last; and I have every hope and belief that it has
been completely eradicated. I have had examination made recently by eminent physicians and
surgeons, who could discover no appearance of remaining disease."
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:01:05 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Ther is a William Korth, lab. h. 851 4th
Henry Koerts, foreman, 429 E. Water, h. 323 Reed
John Koerts, h. 323 Reed.
For Kurth there is:
Albert
Arnold
6 Augusts
Augusta
Kurth Bos, grocers
3 Charles
Charlotte
Elizabeth
2 Emil
And a whole lot more.
there is one Louise, wid. of charles, h. 934 National Ave.
in the 1893 Milwaukee city directory
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:00:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Gnight Jim!
FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 4:00:23 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I need to sign-off. I won't be joining you next week as I won't have computer access in Spokane.
Good night to all.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:59:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Yes Jim - of CCGS and my VHS graduating class.
FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:58:48 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat, was Bob Goodwin a member of CCGS?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:56:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I just copied that obit for Kate Carr and added it to my Legacy Family Tree. Thanks for finding it
Jerry.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:55:14 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Gnight Margaret!
Let us know how it goes!
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:51:17 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thanks so much for all the new strategies. I am going to be logging out as the staff here is
making serious closing noises. I will try when I get home to log in and see how that works.
FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:50:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thanks for posting the 1967 obit, Jerry. I will add it to the rest of our misc. cemetery obits.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:48:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Jim!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:41:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Good evening Jim.
FROM: Jim on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:41:34 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Good evening to all. I thought that I would stop by for a few minutes.
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:37:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
This one is on Ancestry:
Wright's Directry Mil Waukee 1893
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:36:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
The only thing that might keep me from posting the transcript immediately is if Rootsweb is
down. In that case, I'll do it early tomorrow morning.
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:34:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thanks for the info. I have looked at previous transcripts of CCGS chat sessions.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:33:56 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret - did Marge tell you how to get the transcript from tonight? If not, you just go to http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~waccgs/p3424.htm and click on
February 19 to see it. I'll post it by 9:15 this evening unless I have a problem with rootsweb.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:33:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
The 1895 census only has head of household and number of people - no ages.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:32:39 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
More about Directories.
>I started transcribing the names and a partial list is now online. Partial listing of 1848-49
Directory Please check what is complete before requesting a lookup. I will do lookups for any
name from the list below that is not complete. Just email me with your request.
Ellen-
Information includes ward number, name of householder, occupations, and address. There is no
business section.
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:32:30 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
August was 25 in 1880 so should be 40 in 1895. However, there was no Fred listed with the
family in 1880.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:32:19 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Fred Kourt's family in 1895 is 1 male, 2 female, 2 of the family is born in Germany
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:32:08 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
This site has a number of Milwaukee data sets:
http://www.linkstothepast.com/milwaukee/
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:31:26 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thanks for being with us Marge.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:31:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Must "exit stage left"... see ya next week... take care... bye
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:31:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
August's family is 2 males, 6 females, 2 of the family members born in Germany
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:30:33 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
entries:
"The first city directory was published on Feb. 10, 1847 by Julius P.B. McCabe. April 1881, A.G.
Wright began publication of the city Directories."
1848-49 Milwaukee City Directory Index
1857-58 Milwaukee City Directory
1891-92 Milwaukee Elite Directory
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:29:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Clicked on City Directories:
at
http://www.linkstothepast.com/milwaukee/ctydir.php
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:29:55 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
There is a Fred Kourt and August Kourt on the 1895 Wisconsin census in Maple Grove
Manitowoc Co
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:29:08 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
CCGS... Time for me to get my chores done here at Humble House... Margaret, YOU can stay
for a while... take care, kids.... bye
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:28:54 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Links to the Past - Milwaukie
at
http://www.linkstothepast.com
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:28:16 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Library Catalog has
Links to the Past
Historical information on Milwaukee County: entries from early city directories, maps, vital
records, early businesses, surnames, cemeteries, biographical index with links to text of History of
the Great Lakes by J.B. Mansfield.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:27:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
AskaQuestion at the library, e-mail
form at
http://www.mpl.org/mcfls_webform.htm
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:26:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Milwaukie WI Library might have them...
at
http://www.mpl.org
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:26:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I have a Brick Wall for next week that I will post tomorrow morning. It might be a challenging
one.
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:22:54 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve-Thank you for that. Can you or anyone tell me if there are any Milwaukee city directories
ca. 1893 online?
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:18:43 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
There is an August Körth in Washington, Shawano County, WI in the 1900 census (T623, 1817,
255), but no mother or grandmother is listed.
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:16:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat-Could be related. There's a family of KOERTHs who settled in Texas; that family is
descended from a brother of Louise's husband. Haven't traced all possible descendants.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:15:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Sorry for dropping the last letters on my words - guess I should proof what I'm sending!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:15:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I wonder if you Kurth family is related to the fellow I graduated with? He's still living in Battle
Ground, WA.
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:13:12 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I found a Louisa KURTH who died 5 Dec 1893 in Milwaukee County, according to the
Wisconsin Death Index (the pay service of the WI Hist Soc.) I was thinking of paying the $15 for
the record. It appears to be the closest match to what I'm looking for.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:12:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Joy - that doesn't sound like much fun at all. My eldest granddaughter (34) had a wisdom tooth
pulled recently. She has never even had a single filling so didn't really know how to act.
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:11:19 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Joy. Hope you are feeling better
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:09:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Jerry
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:09:05 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I had oral surgery this week, so being on pain meds, I didn't do any research this week. (Might be
kind of interesting results if I did)
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:08:34 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi everyone
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:08:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Margaret!
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:08:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Joy-Greetings from Lynnwood and SIGS.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:07:46 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hello, Joy... joining us from the SIGS library at Humble House tonight is Margaret Robe
Summitt, editor of our quarterly, The Sounder
FROM: Joy on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:07:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Everyone
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:06:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
ooops... that was meant for Pat... sigh...
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:06:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I might have to bite the bullet and put it in a BOX for shipping
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 3:02:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
Sorry to hear you caught that bug.
We've had a few cases around here,
but so far I've been the one
carrying chicken soup for them,
and haven't caught any bugs.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:58:12 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Rokycany (IPA: [?rok?tsan?]), (German: Rokitzan), is a town in the Plze? Region of the Czech
Republic. It lies 17 km (11 mi) to the East from the region capital of Pilsen
map
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/czech-republic/bohemia/plzen/sights/476722
and WikiTravel - Pilsen (PLZEN)
at
http://wikitravel.org/en/Plze%C5%88
Pilsen (Czech: Plze?) (German: Pilsen) [1] is in Bohemia, in the Czech Republic in Central
Europe. It is the home and birthplace of the Pilsener (or pilsner) beer variety which is derived
from the city's German name.
It is the 4th largest city in the country and the largest city in West Bohemia, being a convenient
base for exploring this region of the Czech Republic.
See Google map and directions -
Drive from PLZEN (PILSEN) to PRAHA (PRAGUE), through ROKYCANY on Route E50
91.7 km – about 1 hour 10 mins
(TESKOV is north of ROKYCANY_(and HOLOUBKOV)
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:57:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
"Towns and villages of Rokycany District - Bohemia, Czech Republic"
at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokycany
Includes TESKOV
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:55:56 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I hope no one else here has gotten this awful flu bug that both my husband and I have. It started
with a bad sore throat and then a horrible cough that goes on and on. I started Saturday and Don
started Monday so guess he got it from me. It takes me longer to get over bugs like this because
of my asthma. Lots of it going around Clark County from what we've heard.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:55:41 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
This PETER CIPRA may be from same family,
probably born in Bohemia.
1900
Name: Peter Cipra
Home in 1900: Cleveland Ward 25, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Age: 66
Birth Date: Oct 1833
Birthplace: Ohio
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Bohemia
Mother's Birthplace: Bohemia
Spouse's Name: Anna
Marriage Year: 1863
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 37
Residence : Cleveland City, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Cipra 66 Shoemaker
Anna Cipra 60
Vratisdov F Cipra 26 son Grocer
Ldenka Brak 30 daughter
William Brak 9 grandson
Source Citation: Year: 1900;
Census Place: Cleveland Ward 25, Cuyahoga, Ohio;
Roll: T623_1256 Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 128.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:53:57 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I'm looking for a PETER CIPRA from
Bohemia. Haven't found him, but
found others named CIPRA.
Looking at
the geography in Bohemia, found
TESKOV, mentioned in a CIPRA family
bio.
SEARCH CIPRA and Bohemia
at
"Winslow Cipra, editor and proprietor of the Lincoln Sentinel and present postmaster of that city,
had spent nearly all his life in Kansas, and had had a varied career of usefuluess as a teacher,
business man and in journalism and public affairs.
"Mr. Cipra represents that sterling stock of Bohemian people who have accomplished so much
for the cause of agriculture and development in Kansas.
He was born at Teskov, Bohemia, December 8, 1873.
His father, Frank Cipra, was born in Zbirov, Bohemia, in October, 1839, grew up and married at
Teakov, and followed farming according to the intensive methods that prevailed in the old
country. When he came to the United States with his family in 1877, he located on the broad
prairies of Ellsworth County, Kansas, and homesteaded 160 acres in Palacky Township..."
WINSLOW CIPRA:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/data/database.cgi?file=Data&report=SingleArticle&Arti
cleID=0021605
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:50:45 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret,
Thanks! I remember Pat taking those
photos, too...
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:50:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi folks!
Thanks for all the info!
I see some Bohemia entries,
which I have also researched
recently for another query!
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:49:43 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy-We liked the photo of yourself you posted!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:48:47 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
And here comes Nancy. Good evening Nancy.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:47:45 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thanks Marge - I won't go back and look at it.
Guess someone did the transcribing incorrectly - mistakes happen.
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:46:30 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Marge-CCGS got two versions of the brickwall question. One of them included the fact that if
you look up the death date of Louise/Louisa KOERTH on Ancestry.com, the date you get is in
fact the death date of her husband.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:44:35 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat, I posted it here yesterday
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:44:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve, thank you for this url. I do not know offhand the names of local gen societies in
Manitowoc.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:43:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret have you posted all of your brick wall question or do you want me to copy and paste it
here now?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:43:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I was looking at all the things that have been posted for the Brick Wall this week - it's looking
good.
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:42:49 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Try this: http://www.wiroots.org/wimanitowoc/manlook.html
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:41:33 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret: might there be a local gen or historical society that could do this lookup?
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:40:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve-I will save this address, although I would think I would need to know the year of death
before I asked the county to search for a record.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:38:39 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret: whatever way you can get the articles to me is JUST FINE. Some formats are just
easier to deal with than others... I'm getting lazy in my old age
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:38:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret:
On your hunt for Louise/Louisa Körth, if she did not leave the town in which she lived in 1880,
then you might be able to find her in the Manitowoc County death records. Those records do not
appear to be available electronically, so you will probably have to write to:
Register of Deeds
P.O. Box 421
Manitowoc, WI 54221
920-683-4013
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:37:41 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I'm surprised by the delay between my hitting "send" and the message being posted on Margaret's
computer.
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:33:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Today I worked on the SIGS Sounder feature articles. The bio of Snohomish Chief Napoleon
Bonaparte is ready to go. That's by our own Betty Gaeng. I am writing articles of my own: how
to skim documents and our chat room experience.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:32:17 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret, I'm going to show you about a "private chat" within this channel. I could send my
email address to one person in the channel and it would NOT be visable to the other chatters.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:30:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
(and if our fingers get tired, we can just HOLLER back and forth)
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:30:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve, do continue what you were working on... Miss Margaret and I can chat quietly until the
others arrive
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:28:46 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret, dear, OF COURSE you can use whatever part(s) of my handout you deem appropriate
for your article
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:27:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Sorry for not answering quickly, but I am looking at Wisconsin genealogy sites in another
window.
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:27:31 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I am preparing an article for the SIGS Sounder quarterly based on our Feb. meeting online chat
experience with CCGS. Since MissMarge knows way more about this than I do, I would like her
permission to incorporate her handout into the article entirely or in part.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:26:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
You and I can visit and get your fingers warmed up...
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:26:16 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret: it sometimes takes a while for the CCGS folks to all arrive in the channel
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:25:30 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve, I just warned Margaret that this new experience will change her life...
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:23:19 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hello, Steve and Hello to Miss Margaret (who is in the library tonight with me)
FROM: Margaret-SIGS on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:22:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret-SIGS here. I have NEVER chatted online before. I am so excited!
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:23:45 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
The Vancouver Columbian, Tuesday, August 15, 1967
KATE CARR, 76, Clark County
(Granddaughter of Thomas Soden and Kate Belden)
A Clark County resident for most of her life, Kate Alcenia Thankful Edmonds Carr died
Sunday (August 13, 1967) at the age of 76.
She was a past Democratic committee woman for Clark county, and was a member of the
League of Women Voters, Women's Auxiliary, and the Teamsters
Union.
Mrs. Carr had lived at 3615 W Street at the time of her death. She was born in Ridgefield on
August 11, 1891.
Survivors are a son, Donald Y., Vancouver; five daughters, Mrs. John Maska, Los Angeles, CA,
Mrs. Gerald Marrs, Vancouver, Mrs. Norman Marrs and Mrs. Dale Mapes, both of Portland, and
Mrs. Lloyd Frank, Shawnee, KS; a sister, Miss Alverda Edmonds, Vancouver; and 13
grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren.
Funeral services will be held at 10 a.m. Friday at the Vancouver Funeral Chapel. Interment
will follow at the IOOF Cemetery in Kelso, WA.
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:21:05 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Phonebook results for "John Maska" kansas John R Maska (785) 628-2639 2909 Indian Trl,
Hays, KS 67601
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:17:46 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Username Withheld Contact Has a PERSONAL tree that includes:
Name: Ambrose Staab
Birth: 16 Apr 1862 - Russia
Death: 24 Jun 1951 - Catherine, Ellis, Kansas, USA
Tree Name: Henderson Family Tree
19 Jul 2008
Username Withheld Contact Has a PERSONAL tree that includes:
Name: Ambrose Staab
Birth: 16 Apr 1862 - Russia
Death: 24 Jun 1951 - Catherine, Ellis, Kansas, USA
Tree Name: Elias / Storino Family Tree
14 Sep 2008
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:16:15 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Username Withheld Contact Has a PERSONAL tree that includes:
Name: Sophia Staab
Birth: 18 May 1884
Death: 25 Aug 1974 - Catherine, Ellis, Kansas, USA
Tree Name: "Monster of a Family Tree"
03 Dec 2007
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:09:25 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Ship Cornelius Grinnell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
London, England to New York
6 May 1861
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK
I, Albert Spencer, Master of the Ship Cornelius Grinnell, do solemnly, sincerely and truly swear
that the following List or Manifest subscribed by me, and now delivered by me to the Collector of
the Customs of the Collection District of New York, is a full and perfect list of all the passengers
taken on board of the said Ship Cornelius Grinnell at London, England from which port said
Cornelius Grinnell has now arrived; and that on said list is truly designated the age, the sex, and
the occupation of each of said passengers, the part of the vessel occupied by each during the
passage, the country to which each belongs, and also the country of which it is intended by each
to become an inhabitant; and that said List or Manifest truly sets forth the number of said
passengers who have died on said voyage, and the names and ages of those who died. So help me
God (signed) A. Spencer
Sworn to this 6 May, 1861, before me (illegible signed name)
List or Manifest of all the Passengers taken on board the Ship Cornelius Grinnelll, whereof A.
Spencer if Master, from London, burthen Eleven hundred and Seventeen tons.
Columns represent: passenger name, age, sex, occupation, country to which they severally belong,
and part of vessel occupied during voyage. Each passenger intended to become inhabitant of
United States; that column is eliminated. There were no deaths during the voyage.
50 Catherine Staab 24 F wife Germany Upper between decks
51 Peter Staab 32 M Farmer Germany Upper between decks
52 Anna Staab 19 F Servant Germany Upper between decks
53 Agnes Staab 17 F Servant Germany Upper between decks
54 Magdelena Staab 19 F Servant Germany Upper between decks
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 2:02:26 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
HYACINTH
THIRTEEN miles northwest of Hays on the highest point of the divide between the Saline River
to the north and Big Creek to the south a little church rears its tower sixty feet into the blue sky.
The church is visible for many miles. This is St. John's Catholic Church of Hyacinth, in Buckeye
Township.
The movement to build this church was started by James Ross and John Miller. These men
circulated a subscription list, entering twenty-five names thereon. They presented this list to Rev.
Fr. Richard Dei, then pastor of Hays, in whose jurisdiction the territory to be formed into a new
parish was located. John O'laughlin donated a tract of twenty acres in the southwest corner of
Section Thirteen, Township Twelve, Range Nineteen, Ellis County, Kansas. On this tract the
church was erected. It is a frame building having the following dimensions: auditorium 6Ox32,
sanctuary, 20x18, sacristy 16x14; likewise a threeroom parsonage 16x28 was built.
The available funds at the commencement of the building was three hundred and fifty dollars. The
church building was completed in three months and was solemnly blessed November 29, 1906, by
the Right Rev. Bishop Cunningham of Concordia.
Twelve families constituted the entire membership, namely: James Ross, John Miller, Cornel
Stecklein, George Schmidt, Alex Geist, Adam Pfeifer, Michael Geist, Peter Schoenfeldt, John
O'laughlin, Andrew Pfeifer, Lawrence Maschka, and Alex Royer.
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 1:59:33 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Transcribed from The Golden Jubilee of German-Russian Settlements of Ellis and Rush Counties,
Kansas, August 31, September 1 and 2, 1926
List of Families, St. Joseph's Church, Hays, Kansas
Maschka, Jacob
Maschka, Lawrence
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 1:54:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Key:
Catherine Deceased
1-2. Jacob and Anna Staab; 3-4. Friedrich and Maria Karlin; 5-6. John and Catherine Schmidt;
7-8. John Jacob and Anna Maria Staab; 9-10. John and Elizabeth Staab; 11-12. Peter and
Dorothea Leikam; 13-14. Heinrich and Anna Wolf; 15-16. Andrew and Emilia Schmidt; 17-18.
Mr. and Mrs. August Walter; 19-20. Michael and Anna Maria Wellert; 21-22. Carl Meis and
Anna Katherina Meis; 23-24. Carl and Elizabeth Karlin; 25-26. Jacob and Anna Karlin; 27.
Friedrich Koerner; 28. Paul Koerner; 29. Jacob Schmidt; 30. Heinrich Staab; 31. Jacob Walter;
32. Peter Meis; 33. (Not identified); 34. Anna Maria Schmidt; 35. Agnes Schueler; 36. Anna
Maria Schuetz; 37. Carl Meis
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 1:54:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
This picture has some Staabs from Catherine:
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 0:53:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Oh well, I thought Pat had mentioned Nevada.
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 0:51:19 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nevada Marriages:
BG_Last_Name BG_First_Name BG_Middle R CCYr CC_Numb BGS GB_Last_Name
GB_First_Name GB_Middle GBS MM MD MY CCM RM RD RY CCR CI_Number
MASKA GENEIL MARY B 1997 008935 05 NEAL MICHAEL R 05 05 03
1997 715 05 05 1997 005 MA97-8917
MASKA LARRY LYNN JR G 1988 933854 60 LAMB WENDY SUE 60 07 09
1988 702 07 19 1988 702 93854
MASKA MICHAEL DARREN G 1994 872454 05 OSYGUSS MARIA AZUCENA
05 12 29 1993 702 01 07 1994 702 92454
MASKA SANDRA KAY B 1987 871515 60 CROSS JEFFREY J 60 10 30
1987 702 11 10 1987 702 91515
MASKA SANDRA KAY B 1987 391515 60 CROSS JEFFREY J 60 10 30
1987 702 11 10 1987 702 1091515
MASKA STACIE LYNN B 1997 900721 05 STEWART DANNY MCQUEEN 05
04 20 1997 702 04 22 1997 702 77218
MASKA WALTER R G 1978 010612 28 DAVIS ROSE KATHRYN 28 03 31
1978 056 03 31 1978 056
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 0:49:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nevada Marriages:
BG_Last_Name BG_First_Name BG_Middle R CCYr CC_Numb BGS GB_Last_Name
GB_First_Name GB_Middle GBS MM MD MY CCM RM RD RY CCR CI_Number
MASCHKA JOHN BROOKS G 1989 940123 05 KING SAMI ELAINE 05 07
25 1989 702 08 01 1989 702 90123
MASCHKA LISA DORENE B 1979 317027 05 SAVALA ROBERT EDWARD II
05 09 01 1979 702 09 14 1979 702 017027
MASCHKA SHEILA LYNNE B 1989 114180 99 DAUGHERTY DONALD
ELWIN 99 06 18 1989 703 06 30 1989 001 0097898M
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 0:46:38 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
CA Birth records:
Last_Name First_Name Middle_Name B_yr B_mo B_dy Mothers_Last_Name Sex
County_of_Birth idno
MASCHKA EARL ASGARHERMANN 1944 05 25 HALL MALE SAN DIEGO 0
MASCHKA ERIK CHRISTIANHER 1944 05 25 HALL MALE SAN DIEGO 0
MASCHKA JOHN B 1967 05 12 BROOKS MALE SAN DIEGO 0
MASCHKA JOHN EARL 1942 07 17 HALL MALE SAN DIEGO 0
MASCHKA LYDIA A 1965 01 01 FARLEY FEMALE SAN DIEGO 0
MASCHKA MARGARET A 1966 02 05 BROOKS FEMALE SAN DIEGO 0
MASCHKA SHANNON G 1971 01 12 CARLSON FEMALE SAN DIEGO 0
MASCHKA STELLA M 1959 04 04 FARLEY FEMALE TEHAMA 0
MASCHKA TAMMY R 1968 12 13 CARLSON FEMALE SAN DIEGO 0
FROM: jerryt on DATE-Feb 19, 2009 0:44:06 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
California Birth records:
Last_Name First_Name Middle_Name B_yr B_mo B_dy Mothers_Last_Name Sex
County_of_Birth idno
MASKA DEVON CHRISTOPHER 1986 09 12 MASKA MALE LOS ANGELES 0
MASKA EON Z 1970 10 12 KALE MALE ORANGE 0
MASKA JENNA MARIE 1985 04 11 MASKA FEMALE YOLO 0
MASKA JENNIFER K 1966 08 22 MESSER FEMALE YOLO 0
MASKA KIMBERLY R 1972 05 10 DIAZ FEMALE LOS ANGELES 0
MASKA LANCE JAMES 1954 09 28 MCDONALD MALE RIVERSIDE 0
MASKA MARIA T 1965 04 25 MESSER FEMALE YOLO 0
MASKA MICHAEL D 1965 05 21 GREMS MALE LOS ANGELES 0
MASKA NATASHA S 1973 11 07 FEIGT FEMALE SAN DIEGO 0
MASKA PAUL M 1965 02 24 MCDONALD MALE LOS ANGELES 0
MASKA SHELLEY D 1960 05 07 GREMS FEMALE LOS ANGELES 0
MASKA STEVEN R 1958 10 22 GREMS MALE LOS ANGELES 0
MASKA THOMAS RICHARD 1986 08 04 DOIDGE MALE RIVERSIDE 0
MASKA TIMOTHY ROBERT 1989 10 29 DOIDGE MALE RIVERSIDE 0
MASKA VERAK A 1972 07 13 KALE MALE ORANGE 0
MASKA WILLIAM KIETH 1939 08 19 THOMAS MALE ALAMEDA 0
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:19:02 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
See ya tomorrow night!
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:18:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Margaret was part of the SIGS group watching the CCGS-SIGS chat earlier this month. She
enjoyed the experience and wants to write up an article about genealogy chat as a research tool
for The Sounder.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:16:05 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
In summary - Margaret wants to find the death information for Louise KOERT (or alt spelling), b
Germany ca 1800, in Maple Grove, Manitowoc Co, WI in 1880.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:13:41 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
(Now THAT is a query and THEN some!)
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:12:24 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Louise had a daughter, (Anna) Caroline, who emigrated to the US before her mother. Anna
Caroline married Valentin Sprengler 5 Jan 1854 in Milwaukee. In the 1880 Census Valentin and
Anna Caroline are living in O'Neal Township, San Joaquin Co., CA.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:11:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Family lore says: Louise had a sister, married surname possibly GRUENING. The sister lived ca.
1860 (or later?) near Beaver Dam, Dodge Co., WI. Louise and her son Daniel walked the 90-odd
miles from Maple Grove to Beaver Dam to buy a heifer from this sister. I have not found any
trace of her.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:11:31 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Family lore says: Louise lived part of the time with her son Daniel and part of the time with her
son Ludwig, aka Lewis. Son Daniel served in the Civil War 1864-65, died 1871, resided in Maple
Grove, Manitowoc Co., WI. Ludwig aka Lewis/Louis resided in Brown Co., WI (Holland Twp.)
and died in 1927, is buried in Brillion Bluffs Cemetery, Calumet Co., WI. Louise is not buried in
that cemetery, online at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sheboygan/.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:11:02 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I have not found Louise in the 1860 or 1870 Censuses. I would guess she was dead by 1900,
certainly by 1910.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:10:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I find Louise in the 1880 Census for Maple Grove, Manitowoc Co., WI, living with her daughter
in law Wilhelmine and family. Louise was aged 79 in the 1880 Census. The surname is indexed
KOCETH by familysearch.org.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:09:57 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Louise as a widow came to America, arriving 5 Dec 1857 on the ship "Louisiana" in New York.
With her came her son Daniel and his wife Wilhelmine (ROSENAU) and their children, and other
relatives of Wilhelmine.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:09:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Louise and Gottfried had seven children. Three of them died in childhood. Three of them came
to America and were married and had children. The other, daughter Louise (b. ca. 1831) I have
found no record of after her confirmation in Jankendorf in 1845.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:08:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I have a marriage record for Louise, maiden name NICOLAI or NICKOLEY, married 18 Feb
1824 in Jankendorf, Posen Province, Prussia, to Gottfried KOERT. Louise was the third
daughter of the deceased innkeeper Peter NICKOLEY. At the time of her marriage she was age
24; this would place her birthdate about 1800. Husband Gottfried died in 1846 in Prussia.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:07:55 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Seeking death info on Louise or Louisa KOERTH. In German it's KO(umlaut)RTH. The
pronunciation is guttral and the final H is silent. I have found every spelling variant imaginable,
including KOERT, GORT, HORT and HURT.
FROM: MissMarge on DATE-Feb 18, 2009 16:07:06 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Good morning. Margaret Robe Summitt (SIGS member, and editor of our quarterly, The
Sounder) asked me to send this query to you all; she will be in the channel tomorrow night.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 16, 2009 2:12:10 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Eon sent me this information today:
I have more on the Maska/Maschka line now! I've recently linked John Paul Maska to his Parents
Laurenz (Laurence/Lawrence) Maska/Maschka and Agnes Sigl(Siegel) Maschka arriving in 1878
to the Hays, Ellis Cty, KS as one of the first 2-3 waves of settlers in that area. A lot of Volga
Germans via Russia in the first waves. I've also linked Catherine Staab to her parents, Peter and
Agnes Leikam Staab, also among the first settlers of the area of Catharine, KS. Hope this helps
the group!
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 5:28:24 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Cannot find in any Staab household in Kansas in the 1900 census:
Katherine/Catherine STAAB b. Apr 1882, Catherine, Ellis, Kansas
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 5:02:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Movie info on Glenn Maska at imdb.com:
# "Disney Presents The 100 Lives of Black Jack Savage" .... Bud Lawton (1 episode, 1991)
... aka Black Jack Savage (USA)
- A Pirate Story (1991) TV episode .... Bud Lawton
# American risciň (1990) .... Daniel
... aka American Rickshaw
... aka American Tiger
# "Superboy" .... Johnny Avonasac (1 episode, 1990)
... aka The Adventures of Superboy (USA: new title)
- Johnny Casanova and the Case of Secret Serum (1990) TV episode .... Johnny Avonasac
# Extralarge: Moving Target (1990) (TV) .... Ryan
# Where the Boys Are '84 (1984) .... Bartender
... aka Where the Boys Are
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 5:00:54 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Movie info on Jan Maska at imdb.com:
# Sest cerných dívek aneb Proc zmizel Zajíc? (1969)
... aka Six Black Girls (UK)
... aka Six Black-Haired Girls (International: English title: informal title)
# Prísne tajné premiéry (1967)
# Zlocin v dívcí skole (1966) .... Doctor (segment "Jak se koupe zena")
... aka Crime at the Girls School
# Dama na kolejich (1966) .... Bozena's husband
... aka Lady on the Tracks (USA)
# Slechetný cowboy Sandy aneb Prohraná nevesta (1964) (TV)
... aka Proc Sandy nechal vychladnout své pistole (Czechoslovakia: Czech title)
... aka The Noble Cowboy Sandy or Gamble Bride (International: English title)
# Smutný puvab (1963) (TV)
# Vestec (1963) .... Námestek
# Zelené obzory (1962) .... Accountant
... aka Green Horizons (International: English title)
# Slecna od vody (1959) .... Lékar
# Tri prání (1958) .... Announcer
... aka Three Wishes
# Dobrý voják Svejk (1957) .... Muz jdoucí na záchodek
# Vzorný kinematograf Haska Jaroslava (1956)
# Hudba z Marsu (1955) .... Kulísek, rozhlasový rezisér
... aka Music from Mars
# Punta a ctyrlístek (1955)
... aka Punta and the Four-Leaf Clover (International: English title)
# Únos (1953) .... Sedivy
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:58:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
California Death Records:
Last Name First Name Middle Birth Date Mother Maiden Father Last Sex Birth Place Death
Place Death Date SSN Age
MASKA CAROLYN 06/05/14 JANOUSEK TURNOVEC F SOUTH DAKOTA LOS
ANGELES(19) 10/01/89 507-20-2136 75 yrs
MASKA JOHN FRANK 12/30/17 BENDA M NEBRASKA LOS ANGELES(19) 03/12/84
506-18-3363 66 yrs
MASKA JOHN P 12/17/70 SIEGEL M LOS ANGELES(70) 06/01/66 542-18-9861 95
yrs
MASKA JOSEPHINE EVELYN 12/11/18 LISSENER MCFADDEN F NEW YORK LOS
ANGELES(19) 06/22/89 573-28-3470 70 yrs
MASKA JUNE ANN 07/17/24 MERRIAM MESSER F MASSACHUSETTS YOLO
06/25/90 023-18-6380 65 yrs
MASKA LENA MARGARET 12/31/01 GLOVER MANN F ARKANSAS NAPA 06/17/95
530-12-1138 94 yrs
MASKA MARIE 05/10/91 F ILLINOIS SAN DIEGO(37) 07/15/77 343-01-8082 86 yrs
MASKA WILLIAM A 02/14/87 MASKA M TENNESSEE ALAMEDA(01) 08/16/55
573-16-4820 68 yrs
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:54:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Three Maska records found at the Oregon Historical Society:
Case# Pct 22 pg 048
Name Maska, John
Date 1895
Record Type Census
County Multnomah
Source Genealogical
Case# 12929/42866
Name Maska, Otto
Date 7/12/1900
Record Type Delayed Birth
County Multnomah
Source Health
Case# 10145
Name Maska, Jake / Jack / John
Date 1/13/1928
Record Type Inmate
County Multnomah
Source Penitentiary
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:50:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1920 Census data (from Heritage Quest):
MASKA ALEX 21 M W LITH CT HARTFORD 2-WD; HARTFORD;
HARTFORD
MASKA CAROLINE E 83 F W GERM CT NEW HAVEN 5-WD; MERIDEN;
MERIDEN
MASKA VICTOR 45 M W POLA IL COOK 11-WD CHICAGO
MASKA WALTER 57 M W POLA IL COOK 12-WD CHIGAGO
MASKA REBECCA 56 F W RUSS IL COOK 15-WD CHICAGO
MASKA LEWIS 32 M W POLA IL COOK 17-WD CHICAGO
MASKA FRANK 39 M W GALI IL COOK 28-WD CHICAGO
MASKA JOSEPH 54 M W BOHE IL COOK 34-WD CHICAGO
MASKA FRANK 56 M W POLA IL COOK BREMEN
MASKA JACOB J 42 M W AUST KS ELLIS BUCKEYE TWP
MASKA CASPAR 40 M W ROMA MI BERRIEN BENTON
MASKA AUGUST H 40 M W GERM NE FRANKLIN BLOOMINGTON
MASKA JOHN 47 M W BOHE NE CUMING LINCOLN
MASKA HERMAN 48 M W GERM NE FRANKLIN MACON
MASKA CHARLES A 47 M W GERM NE FRANKLIN MARION
MASKA JULIUS 58 M W POLA NJ HUDSON 4-WD; KEARNY
MASKA FREDRICA 72 F W GERM NY MONROE 5-WD ROCHESTER
MASKA RICHARD 47 M W GERM NY ERIE 7-WD BUFFALO
MASKA OTTO 83 M W SILE NY ERIE 8-WD BUFFALO
MASKA FRANK 45 M W ROMA OH CUYAHOGA 12-WD CLEVELAND
MASKA ANNA 53 F W BOHE OH CUYAHOGA 16-WD CLEVELAND
MASKA JOHN 23 M W AUST OH STARK 3-WD CANTON
MASKA MICHAEL 22 M W RUSS OH SUMMIT 4-WD AKRON
MASKA TONEY 48 M W GREE PA ARMSTRONG 1-WD KITTANNING
MASKA JOSEPHINE 29 F W RUSS PA PHILADELPHIA 15-WD
PHILADELPHIA
MASKA RUKASE 26 M W RUSS PA ALLEGHENY 16-WD PITTSBURGH
MASKA JOHN 74 M W BOHE SD TRIPP BULL CREEK TWP
MASKA JOHN 66 M W GERM WI MARINETTE 5-WD; MARINETTE
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:49:48 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1910 Census data (from Heritage Quest):
MASKA CHARLES 68 M W GERM CA SANTA CLARA 1-WD SAN JOSE
MASKA JOHN 32 M W RUSS CO LARIMER LARAMIE
MASKA FRANK 36 M W RUSS CO LARIMER LARAMIE
MASKA MARTIN 38 M W GERM CT NEW HAVEN 2-WD NEW HAVEN
MASKA THERESE F 32 M W GERM CT NEW HAVEN MERIDEN
MASKA VICTOR 35 M W RUSS IL COOK 12-WD CHICAGO
MASKA WACLAW 45 M W RUSS IL COOK 12-WD CHICAGO
MASKA WALTER 49 M W GERM IL COOK 12-WD CHICAGO
MASKA JOSEPH 23 M W RUSS IL COOK 16-WD CHICAGO
MASKA CAROLINA 18 F W AUST IL COOK 17-WD CHICAGO
MASKA PETER 36 M W AUST IL COOK 17-WD CHICAGO
MASKA ANNA 37 F W GERM IL COOK 31-WD CHICAGO
MASKA JOE 40 M W BOHE IL COOK 34-WD CHICAGO
MASKA LEWIS 57 M W GERM IL MACOUPIN CHESTERFIELD TWP
MASKA CHARLES 30 M W HUNG IN LAKE 10-WD HAMMOND
MASKA JOHN 37 M W GERM KS GOVE BAKER TWP
MASKA JOHN 18 M W HUNG MI WAYNE 18-WD DETROIT
MASKA JOSEPH 28 M W RUSS MI ANTRIM MANCELONA TWP
MASKA HERMAN 29 M W GERM MN CARVER CHANHASSEN TWP
MASKA ALBERT 28 M W GERM MN CARVER LAKETOWN TWP
MASKA TONY 40 M W RUSS MN ST LOUIS LAVELL TWP
MASKA JOHN 37 M W BOHE NE CUMING LINCOLN TWP
MASKA HERMAN 38 M W GERM NE FRANKLIN LOGAN TWP
MASKA FRANK 32 M W AUST NJ ESSEX 12-WD NEWARK
MASKA VALENTINE 59 M W GERM NY KINGS 26-WD BROOKLYN
MASKA ADAM 30 M W RUSS NY ERIE 3-WD LACKAWANNA
MASKA RICHARD 36 M W GERM NY ERIE 6-WD BUFFALO
MASKA ERNST 40 M W GERM NY ERIE 7-WD BUFFALO
MASKA ARTHER 73 M W GERM NY ERIE 7-WD BUFFALO
MASKA MICHAEL 24 M W RUSS NY ONONDAGA 7-WD SYRACUSE
MASKA FRANK 36 M W AUST OH CUYAHOGA 17-WD CLEVELAND
MASKA MARY 21 F W HUNG OH SUMMIT 2-WD AKRON
MASKA ANNA 43 F W AUST OH CUYAHOGA 21-WD CLEVELAND
MASKA MARY 66 F W AUST OH CUYAHOGA 7-WD CLEVELAND
MASKA MIKE 27 M W HUNG PA ALLEGHENY 27-WD PITTSBURGH
MASKA ANNIE 15 F W AUST RI KENT WARWICK
MASKA FRANK 54 M W AUST WI LA CROSSE 18-WD LA CROSSE
MASKA AUGUST 60 M W GERM WI MILWAUKEE 3-WD MILWAUKEE
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:49:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1900 Census data (from Heritage Quest):
MASKA CHARLES 59 M W GERM CA YOLO BLACK TWP
MASKA JAMES 36 M W POLA IL COOK 10-WD CHICAGO
MASKA WILLIAM 24 M W GERM IL COOK 14-WD CHICAGO
MASKA FREDERICK 29 M W GERM IL COOK 14-WD CHICAGO
MASKA CARL J 57 M W GERM IL COOK 14-WD CHICAGO
MASKA HENERY 67 M W GERM IL COOK 14-WD CHICAGO
MASKA ALBERT 37 M W GERM IL COOK 19-WD CHICAGO
MASKA GEORGE 29 M W HUNG IL COOK 33-WD CHICAGO
MASKA AUGUST 62 M W GERM IL COOK 33-WD CHICAGO
MASKA JOSEPH 34 M W BOHE IL COOK 8-WD CHICAGO
MASKA VLADISLAV 38 M W POLA IL COOK 9-WD CHICAGO
MASKA LOUIS 47 M W GERM IL MACOUPIN CHESTERFIELD TWP
MASKA OTTO 10 M W GERM KS MARION CLEAR CRK
MASKA BERTHA E 20 F W GERM MI LENAWEE 1-WD ADRIAN
MASKA ALBERT 41 M W GERM MN CARVER 3-WD CHASKA
MASKA MARTIN 53 M W POLA MN TODD HARTFORD TWP
MASKA FRANK 28 M W BOHE MO ST LOUIS 7-WD ST LOUIS
MASKA WILLIAM 45 M W GERM NE MADISON EMERICK PCT
MASKA HERMAN 29 M W GERM NE FRANKLIN FRANKLIN
MASKA AUGUST 22 M W GERM NE FRANKLIN MARION TWP
MASKA AUGUST 57 M W GERM NE FRANKLIN MARION TWP
MASKA ZUSKA 19 F W AUST NJ PASSAIC 1-WD PASSAIC
MASKA FRANK 39 M W AUST NJ PASSAIC 1-WD PASSAIC
MASKA RICHARD 27 M W GERM NY ERIE 16-WD BUFFALO
MASKA MARY 52 F W BOHE OH CUYAHOGA 17-WD CLEVELAND
MASKA MARY 58 F W BOHE OH CUYAHOGA 17-WD CLEVELAND
MASKA AUG 46 M W GERM OH HAMILTON 26-WD CINCINNATI
MASKA GEORGE 20 M W HUNG PA LACKAWANNA 7-WD SCRANTON
MASKA MICHAEL 38 M W GERM WI MILWAUKEE 11-WD MILWAUKEE
MASKA FRED 42 M W GERM WI MARATHON HOLTON
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:48:49 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1880 Census data (from Heritage Quest):
MASKA MICHAEL 13 W GERM IL WASHINGTON DUBOIS
MASKA VICTORIA 30 W GERM IL WASHINGTON DUBOIS
MASKA PETER 39 W POLA IL WASHINGTON DUBOIS
MASKA BETSEY 49 W GERM MI ALLEGAN ALLEGAN
MASKA GUSTAVE 55 W GERM MI ALLEGAN ALLEGAN
MASKA JOHN GODFRIED 17 W GERM MN ISANTI NORTH BRANCH
MASKA WHELIMINA 36 W GERM MN ISANTI NORTH BRANCH
MASKA CHRIS F. 46 W GERM MN ISANTI NORTH BRANCH
MASKA MARTA 85 W GERM MN ISANTI NORTH BRANCH
MASKA MARY 34 W CZEC OH CUYAHOGA 6-WD; CLEVELAND
MASKA MICHAEL 36 W CZEC OH CUYAHOGA 6-WD; CLEVELAND
MASKA MARY 38 W CZEC OH CUYAHOGA 6-WD; CLEVELAND
MASKA JOHN 40 W CZEC OH CUYAHOGA 6-WD; CLEVELAND
MASKA CAROLINA 31 W GERM WI MILWAUKEE 10-WD; MILWAUKEE
MASKA JOHANN 36 W GERM WI MILWAUKEE 10-WD; MILWAUKEE
MASKA AUGUSTA 34 W GERM WI SHEBOYGAN MITCHELL
MASKA FRANCIS 36 W GERM WI SHEBOYGAN MITCHELL
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:29:13 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1880 Census (T9, 624, 466B)
Chris F. MASKA Self M Male W 46 PRUSSIA Farmer PRU PRU
Whelimina MASKA Wife M Female W 36 PRUSSIA PRU PRU
John Godfried MASKA Son Male W 17 PRUSSIA PRU PRU
Chris F. MASKA Son S Male W 12 MN PRU PRU
Ernst F. MASKA Son S Male W 7 MN PRU PRU
Louise MASKA Dau S Female W 2 MN PRU PRU
Johanna C. MASKA Dau S Female W 9M MN PRU PRU
Marta MASKA Father Male W 85 PRU Lives With Them PRU PRU
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:28:47 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1880 Census (T9, 1006, 187A)
John MASKA Self M Male W 40 BOHEMIA Cutter BOHEMIA BOHEMIA
Mary MASKA Wife M Female W 38 BOHEMIA Keeping House BOHEMIA BOHEMIA
Antonia MASKA Dau S Female W 16 OH Clerk In Dry Good Store BOHEMIA BOHEMIA
Anna MASKA Dau S Female W 15 OH At Home BOHEMIA BOHEMIA
Julia MASKA Dau S Female W 11 OH At School BOHEMIA BOHEMIA
Edward MASKA Son S Male W 9 OH At School BOHEMIA BOHEMIA
Marie MASKA Dau S Female W 6 OH BOHEMIA BOHEMIA
John MASKA Son S Male W 4 OH BOHEMIA BOHEMIA
Emilie MASKA Dau S Female W 2 OH BOHEMIA BOHEMIA
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:27:10 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1870 Census (M593, 1190, 130)
MASKA JOHN 30 M W BOHE OH CUYAHOGA 6-WD CLEVELAND
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:25:06 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Immigrants via Ellis Island:
Jan Maska Rynarec 1900 27
Franz Maska 1902 24
Marie Maska Larkignglsk 1902 14
Hans Maska Nagy Bocsko 1903 27
Jan Maska Vohar 1903 21
Loszbo Maska 1904 26
George Maska O. Kocsard 1904 20
Orin Maska Slakecsad 1905 34
Sipie Maska Lino-Austria 1905 23
Jakab Maska Kegye 1906 35
Welwel Maska Onikotz 1906 18
Jordan Maska Olak...sard, Hungary 1909 31
Jan Maska Lulelin, Russia 1909 20
Vaclav Maska Widendsberg, Austria 1910 32
Stefan Maska Luckow, Russia 1910 22
Frantisek Maska Krtetice, Bohemia 1910 18
Simon Maska Olahkoisard, Hungary 1913 46
Anna Maska Olahkoisard, Hungary 1913 29
Maria Maska Olalikocsard, Hungary 1913 24
Katerina Maska 1913 21
Martin Maska Olik, Russia 1913 21
Michal Maska Krzatte, Galicia 1913 20
Johann Maska Toplitz, Austria 1913 14
Kalip Maska Mascoulari, Greece 1914 35
Miguel Maska Buenos Aires, Argentina 1914 32
Vaszu Maska Nagyikland, Hungary 1914 24
Alexandera Maska Greece 1916 30
Carl Maska 1921 29
Anna Maska Czechoslovakian 1921 16
Terpsihori Maska Cabos, Greece 1923 22
Wenzel Maska Surkovic, Austria
FROM: Steve on DATE-Feb 14, 2009 4:24:32 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Immigrants via Castle Garden:
JOH. MASKA UNKNOWN 29 M 27 Aug 1861 BOHEMIA UNION
ANTONI MASKA WIFE 22 F 27 Aug 1861 BOHEMIA UNION
MARIA MASKA DAUGHTER 6 F 27 Aug 1861 BOHEMIA
UNION
ROSINA MASKA DAUGHTER 4 F 27 Aug 1861 BOHEMIA
UNION
ANNA MASKA DAUGHTER 2 F 27 Aug 1861 BOHEMIA
UNION
LADISLAV MASKA LABORER 16 M 20 Mar 1880 SWEDEN
HECLA
AMANDA MASKA UNKNOWN 9 m F 27 Oct 1874 GERMANY
BERLIN
EMILIE MASKA UNKNOWN 22 F 27 Oct 1874 GERMANY
BERLIN
LINA MASKA SERVANT, GENTLEMAN'S SERVANT 17 F 15 May 1882
MARIANNA MASKA UNKNOWN 23 F 10 Aug 1892 GERMANY GERA
VICTOR MASKA INFANT 10 m M 10 Aug 1892 GERMANY GERA
WANDA MASKA CHILD, YOUNGSTER 2 F 10 Aug 1892
GERMANY GERA
LOUISE MASKA FARMER 26 F 21 Dec 1882 GERMANY
WERRA
GG. MASKA INFANT 11 m M 21 Dec 1882 GERMANY WERRA
VACLAV MASKA LABORER 29 M 28 Dec 1891 RUSSIA
MORAVIA
FROM: PatB on DATE-Feb 13, 2009 14:22:13 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
This one should keep us busy for a while! Eon will try his best to join us next Thursday. See you
then!
FROM: Nancy & Pat on DATE-Feb 13, 2009 14:21:12 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy Elder Petersen and Patricia McKee Bauer, along with several regular visitors, will be
staffing the GenChat room beginning about 6:45 p.m. Thursday evening. We close the door about
9:00 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.
We have visitors who will give you a willing helping hand with your genealogy brick walls. You
can enter questions or answers at any time but we hope you will be able to join us when we are
open for discussions.
BRICKWALL PROJECT:
Pat says, "This query comes from my newly-found cousin, Eon Maska, in California."
Eon reports, "What I really need now is the information for John Paul Maska b. 17 Dec 1870 in
Moravia (this is a state in present day Czechoslovakia, but in 1870 it was German occupied as a
result of the Franco-Prussian War) city unknown yet and his wife Katherine Staab b. Apr 1882 in
Catherine, Ellis, Kansas. John Paul Maska d. 1 Jun 1966 in Los Angeles, CA.
I want to find out about their descendants, which would include John James Maska's siblings and
their children. James B. Maska is the last child of John James and Helen June Maska living and he
has helped me a bunch so far with my father's side of the family. I also have two uncles left on my
mother's side too, but I've not gotten much time to research that side yet past my great
grandparents. I have information on most of the family members descending from John James
Maska & Helen June Carr."
Eon has info only on son John James Maska, see below:
Descendants of John Paul MASKA
------------------------------
1-John Paul Maska b. 17 Dec 1870, Moravia, Czechoslovakia, d. 1 Jun 1966, Los
Angeles, Los Angeles, California
+Katherine/Catherine STAAB b. Apr 1882, Catherine, Ellis, Kansas
|--2-John James Maska b. 25 Dec 1904, Hayes, Kansas, d. 27 Aug 1991, Portland,
| Multnomah, Oregon
+Helen June Carr b. 30 Jun 1911, Kelso, WA, d. 13 Nov 1992, Portland,
Multnomah, Oregon
(Eon has birth, death, marriage dates for John James & his descendants - including info on both of
the marriages for J.J. Maska & Helen June Carr - one in Skamania County in 1930 and the other
in Clark County 1934. His name was incorrect on the 1930 certificate which is probably the
reason for redoing the marriage in 1934.)
(Eon also says: "As for John James' occupation, he used to tell us that he worked in the movie
industry as an extra back in the days before non-whites were allowed in mainstream movies; he
would play an Indian or a Mexican in the Westerns. He also used to tell us about working with
Bill Cosby on the "I Spy" TV show. I'm not sure what his 'title' was though.")
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