April 9, 2009
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From: Joy on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 9:06:52 PM
Good night
From: Betty Bend on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 9:06:28 PM
goodnight thanks Joy and Nancy
From: Betty Bend on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 9:06:03 PM
Nancy most of the brothers stayed in WI but that looks very interesting, will check out to see
when Pat came to USA in the 1900 WA. I guess that what amazes me is how you guys can work
two or three things at a time
From: Nancy Elder Petersen on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 9:05:14 PM
oops, I better go now, too!
Gnight all!
From: Nancy Elder Petersen on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 9:04:37 PM
Name: Daniel James O'Brien
Mother's Maiden Surname: Andrewartha
Date of Registration: Sep 1995
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Registration county: Mid Glamorgan
Page Number:
Register number: B77A
District and Subdistrict: 8603B
Entry Number: 075
From: Betty Bend on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 9:02:39 PM
Pat I know you are gone but will keep and eye out for Shelton file
From: Nancy Elder Petersen on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 9:02:33 PM
WA Terr:
Name: Pat Obrien
Census Date: 1 Apr 1892
Residence County: Pierce
Residence State: Washington
Birth Location: Wales
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Race: White
Line: 29
Roll: V228_14
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Washington State and Territorial Censuses, 1857-1892 [database on-line]. Provo,
UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data: Washington. Washington
Territorial Census Rolls, 1857-1892. Olympia, Washington: Washington State Archives. M1, 20
rolls.
From: Betty Bend on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 9:00:29 PM
Nancy I bet there are a lot
From: Betty Bend on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 8:59:57 PM
Thanks Joy sorry
From: Nancy Elder Petersen on Thu, 04-09-2009 at 8:59:47 PM
Maybe his parents are there.
I wonder how many Obriens there were
in Wales in 1851...
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:59:26 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Looks like the magic hour is fast approaching. I will post the new brick wall project early
tomorrow morning so be sure to look for it. It's been fun. I'll see you next Thursday! You can
continue to stay here, I'm going to have to leave. Goodnight all! See you next time!
FROM: Betty Bend on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:59:05 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Oh darn you are so right, I had his birth date in my mind different. I keep thinking about it in bed
so had to get up and ask .
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:58:34 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Betty, did you mean he was born in 1852 or is that a typo?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:57:34 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I wish you could all see the beautiful file Joy found for me on my half brothers' father - from the
prison records. I haven't posted it on any web page but I have shared it with the family of my
deceased brother and I sent it to the other brother who is living in Vancouver. I haven't heard
much back from them yet but the widow of Leonard was so pleased at finding the info as they
knew very little about Jess Shelton.
FROM: Betty Bend on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:57:20 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I just forget to hit the send message button. Other then that some(me included) find my mind
sometimes does not work with my fingers to spell correctly
FROM: Betty Bend on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:55:12 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Parents unknown b. in Ireland. Bart emmg 1860 to USA
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:55:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Then he won't be on Wales 1851 if he's born in 1852
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:54:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
It will be fun to have Florida, Colorado, maybe North Carolina, California, Washington, Oregon,
etc. represented here. I think some of those attending the meeting will be amazed. Several have
said they just don't understand how to access the chat room.
FROM: Betty Bend on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:54:15 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Joy I dont have the world one. Barthalomew Obrien b. Oct 1852 Wales
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:53:05 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Oh good, Joy is quicker than I am!
FROM: Betty Bend on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:52:39 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
be glad to Pat sure does make the world smaller'
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:52:17 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Betty what name and date of birth?
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:52:16 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
It's on Ancestry, Betty. What are you looking for?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:51:56 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Betty,
I have the Ancestry.com UK census,
so I think it's there.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:51:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hello Betty! I hope you will be able to join us on Tuesday, May 26, when we do a GenChat demo
for the CCGS General Meeting. It will be fun to show people how many states can be represented
here!
FROM: Betty Bend on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:50:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
does anyone have the Wales 1851 census
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:50:30 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Betty!
How are you doing this evening?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:41:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve,
She also has a newer PC, while
mine is just an old iBookG4 laptop.
I can't even use the new
Familysearch labsite. Guess
I'd better upgrade soon.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:40:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve,
My cousin loves gadgets. I'll
tell her to try that on her laptop. Do they
cost very much?
FROM: Steve on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:39:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy, you may want to connect a small direction antenna to the computer (if you have an
external antenna jack) and point it toward the lobby.
FROM: Steve on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:37:58 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Metal and concrete make good signal barriers. Wood and drywall are much more forgiving.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:37:43 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
My room is really far from
the lobby, so it would have to
be pretty good!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:34:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
My router is down here in the basement in the computer room and the den is at the front of the
house upstairs so it's a lot of feet in between them. The service upstairs is just as good as down
here by the router.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:33:10 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve,
Thanks, I'll try to find out
more about the service here.
Maybe my cousin will bring her
wireless laptop and try it out in
some spots...down to my room!
FROM: Steve on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:30:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy: Wireless access distances vary widely by strength of the transmitters, types of antennas,
and object in between that block the signal. Most home access points will do the entire house.
Many are stronger and can go out to around 1000 feet without obstructions in between.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:30:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
The title to our property in Felida said Christian Powley DLC so it was easy to spot! That is NW
122nd street now at the south side of the property. I lived in the area for so long that I knew
every little part of it.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:27:12 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
You could try matching those
Google neighborhood maps!
Amazing!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:25:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy - I even saw Whipple Creek (probably unnamed at that time) on one of those maps. We're
right next to the creek here in the condos and it roams around the area, headed for Lake River.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:23:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
What a neat photo. It's really hard to believe that lady could be 100 years old!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:23:08 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Yipes! That was bigger than I thought! Good photo tho!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:21:51 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Try again:
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:21:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I found two other parts that will help her tomorrow. I found the C. Powley DLC which is where
we lived in Felida for many years. The area is unnamed but I recognized Lake River and
Vancouver Lake on the map.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:20:46 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I'll try posting the Baby photo
that Judy just sent, the one with
the 100 yr old.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:17:30 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
I think I've got those somewhere, too. Looks good here!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:16:30 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I'm surprised at how clear the printing is on those copies. She should find all kinds of early
Ridgefield pioneer families on this map!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:14:46 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
This is part 12 - I might have to look for one more part just south of here, too.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:12:49 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Tomorrow I'm going to show the lady from Ridgefield this map. Parts 11 & 12 should show the
names she's looking for. Here's part 11:
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:07:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Here's the Antrim MapD I've been
using, posted by the Mid-AntrimGenealogy forum on Yahoo Groups.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/AntrimMapD.pdf<
/A>
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:03:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
Looking at my Antrim webpages,
I can see I realllly boosted those!
The maps usually have tiny print!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:03:11 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I don't know how many feet it will go. Maybe Steve can tell us. I know the one motel where we
will stay said they will put us close to the office so I can access the wireless network. The room
last year didn't reach it.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:02:01 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
I can change my own fonts okay.
Mostly, my Mac does just fine.
I tend to boost the bold on the
webpages, too.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:00:56 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
I've asked what the distance would
be for the Wireless access.
Our techies here didn't think
I could access from my room, yet...
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 3:00:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy - have you changed the output here to a larger font? It won't come though in the transcript
that way and I don't know if we will see it that way but it might be just what you need!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:59:33 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Linda said they had to change servers. Actually, they had a land line with Qwest but had their
Internet from another company. Qwest decided they would no longer serve them with a telephone
line if they didn't have Internet with them, too. So they went to another company for Internet and
a local phone line. The town is so small, it's surprising there were two companies that could serve
them!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:59:05 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
And these days I do much better
with all reading if the print is
BIG.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:58:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
Errors just help us practice
our "reading closure" techniques!
And we almost always understand...
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:57:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
Glad to hear you will have
such good access out in the
East Country, too!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:56:39 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Sorry for all the typing errors - wait until next week when I'm on the little computer - guess I'd
better be more careful on it.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:54:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
That sounds great Nancy. The wireless hookup is so fast and easy. I can hook my up in the den
upstairs and it's online in seconds. We'll be staying in motels on our trip and they both have
wireless! I think my daughter has it in her house now also.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:53:02 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Gnight Judy!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:52:37 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
They had an ACER that is a bit larger last time I was at Costco. I think the screen is 10.2 - mine is
about 8.6. The price was $349. I love this one - and the old one is going to my daughter and the
kids in Coulee City. I've cleaned up the files, deleted a bunch of stuff and they will have a lot of
fun with it. I'm taking along a mouse and a keyboard to use with it. We're going to have a car
loaded with stuff to take with us for the grandkids and great grandkids. It will be a fun visit.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:52:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
Our newly remodeled BISTRO in the lobby is supposed to have wireless
net access. Should be done pretty
soon, all the furniture is in now.
The booths are setup in the new
dining room, too. Should be all
ready after Easter.
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:51:14 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Time to go...thanks for the help. Enjoy the pictures, Nancy!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:47:33 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
I've seen a nice review about
that ACER, lately, too! Very
tempting.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:46:11 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Lots of interesting location
names to find, listing index for ELDER
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/AntrimCe
nsus1911.htm
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:45:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Free is a very good price Nancy!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:45:17 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
We'll be leaving Monday morning for Coulee City. I'll be taking along my little "netbook"
computer and am planning to hook up to Internet Thursday evening. I'm going to be sending out
the Wednesday blurb, too - if everything works out o.k. Hopefully I will be able to post the
transcript when we're finished Thursday evening as usual. That little computer has a lot of power
in such a small case. It's so much faster than my old laptop - thank goodness! I hooked it up to the
projector at the library last Saturday to see if it will work and it did. There wasn't any problem and
it showed just fine on the screen.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:45:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Handwritten census pages in .pdf
format to download, free!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:44:38 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Free online search for 1911 census
of Antrim
at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:42:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thinking again about my Antrim
locations, here's one for a researcher to visit:
Lisnawhiggle - Kells - LisnawhiggleKells1911.pdf - near Ballymena
William Elder - 38 - widower - Presbyterian - Farmer - b. Co Antrim - 2 daughters
Lisnawhiggle Cottage -Grove Rd, Ballymena
-- ideal location for families and those who want to get away from it all. It offers a unique
opportunity to enjoy the peaceful countryside of Northern Ireland, while still being within easy
reach of major amenities.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:40:14 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
http://www.kshs.org/genealogists/vital/index.htm
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:39:53 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I thought that stone was really special. And it's in perfect condition which makes it even better.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:38:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I sent those on to Jim Cochran. He's the one who is doing them for me now. Are these photo
copies? It would really help if you could type them because that's what Jim is going to do in order
to post those that you sent previously. I'll post his e-mail address in a private note for you.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:37:45 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
That's a spectacular carving!
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:37:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
I remember she loved the outdoor
activities, throwing nerfs and
finding gifts.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:36:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I finally found the stone in Old City. Here it is:
FROM: Steve on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:36:14 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Prairie Cemetery at Knappa, Clatsop County, Oregon, has a marker that is a mini totem pole.
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:33:26 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat, I have a couple more obits for the city cemetery...do I send to you?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:31:41 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Gnight Marge!
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:31:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I seem to remember seeing someone had a webstie of all different Woodman stones from all over
the country
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:31:12 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Wow, Nancy. That is really an interesting stone.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:30:45 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Must be off to do my designated housekeeping chores... see ya next week... take care...
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:30:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Here's a different one:
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:29:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Joy, I wondered if Nathan had any service in Civil War. He was a wagon wheel maker and they
would probably need his services. Maybe that is why he went to KS...
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:29:17 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
The one in Old City is a beautiful trunk of a tree. I had it in a recent Newsletter - guess I'd better
look there to find it!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:28:25 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
We'll be seeing our youngest granddaughter next week. Alice is 15 already - doesn't seem
possible. Seems she's still a little girl to us.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:27:48 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
Okay, have that May 26th date
on my calendar. Hope it goes
as well as the last one.
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:27:06 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
There is a stone in the cemetery that is quite tall, stack of wood and other things. Must be
thinking of the same one. I suspect it was the super deluxe model
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:27:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat,
I've got one online somewhere, too.
Will look...
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:26:54 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Our CCGS meeting with GenChat will be in May - the fourth Tuesday - May 26 - from 7 to 9pm.
As soon as they finish with the elections, we'll be "on board!"
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:25:51 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I was trying to find a photo from the Old City Cemetery in Vancouver of a Woodsman stone. It's
really beautiful. Can't find it right now!
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:25:25 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Yep, Melanie is in 6th grade. Bet your neighbor can remember her running around Van Mall and
"helping" with all the social activities that mommy planned.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:24:11 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I think finding them in 1870 would be valuable, but I haven't had any luck on that
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:23:59 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
One of my neighbors, said
"NO NO, tha baby's sister cannot be 12
already! Very amazed!
FROM: Steve on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:22:43 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Thanks Judy and Joy. I was working the theory that finding the children in the census records
might help with pointers to the parents.
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:22:34 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy, computer is being naughty so will probably have to do it tomorrow.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:22:21 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy, it's really hard to tell -- because the 1885 record also says Christina is male.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:21:13 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Easiest e-mail is NancyP@Teleport.com
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:20:38 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy send me your e-mail address and will send you more pictures, including that one
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:20:09 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
We have at least 3 100's here now.
I remember one from last year who
said she was 102 going on 200.
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:20:08 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Reno county, KS doesn't have a lot of genealogy info and wondering if I should write to the
genealogy society and see if they might have cemetery records. Perhaps I can find Nathan.
Suppose the Christina with him is his mother?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:18:20 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
Do you have digital of that one?
I printed out the photo you told
us about online, and passed it
around the tables at dinner.
Lots of comments!
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:17:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Aww, that's great
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:16:47 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy and Joy you will chuckle at this. Malaura took the new baby to work for show and tell.
One of the residents just turned 100 and so they have a picture of the 100 year old woman and the
2 week old baby. Sure that will have a special place in Allison's scrapbook
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:16:02 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
More about markers....
Woodmen gravestones were originally intended to be a uniform design sent by the Home Office
to local stonecutters, but not all the cutters followed the design. Some used their own
interpretation of the Woodmen design which they felt was more appropriate.
The result was a wide range of designs that reflected members' personal tastes and included
elements that were symbolic of Woodmen ceremonies or rituals. A tree stump, part of the
Society's logo, is the most common symbol used on gravestone designs. Many stand
approximately four to five feet high.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:15:16 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hard to find info (says Betty) when the people aren't living on the reservation
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:15:04 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Does the City cemetery have an burial records I could check about the Woodman's stone?
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:15:02 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
I imagine anyone could be inspired
by the Woodmen, too!
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:13:48 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I have asked family members about that tree stump being a Woodman's marker. My dad told me
she just liked the outdoors.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:13:35 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Marge,
All the more fun to find documents
for them!
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:12:46 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Miss Betty is our resident expert on the local native people
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:12:33 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy, the C.E. Matlack (Matlock) in Reno County KS in 1885, 1895, etc is son of Joseph R
Matlack born in PA. There could be a connection to Nathan, but I couldn't find it
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:12:31 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy,
I've read about "tree stump" markers - found a Woodman's page:
Markers vary
Woodmen gravestones vary greatly in size and shape. Some resemble a tree stump, others a stack
of cut wood. There are elaborate hand-carved monuments, simple stone markers and stake-type
markers driven into the ground.
Woodmen cemetery markers:
http://www.woodmen.org/inside.cfm?Main_menu_id=1?_menu_id=3&sub2_menu_id=6&page_id
=9
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:11:47 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy, Jack and Julia are famous local native persons and there's no record (per Miss Betty) of
Julia's native name
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:11:32 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Susan married a Thomas Myers in 1898 and two children, Harvey and Nellie. Then she married a
William O Irish. She died in 1948 in MO
Ida Mae married Henry W Kirkland in 1881. They had 3 children. Josephine, Jesse and Pena.
Have not followed up on these children.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:09:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
There's info about some of the kids, Steve
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:09:13 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Marge,
Interesting names!
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:09:04 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
CHildren of Nathan and Talitha Spradling (Straulding)
Susan Mary DOB 12 Nov 1860 Wells County, IN
Margaret Lavina DOB 1 March 1864 in Muncie, Delaware County, IN (My great grand mother)
Ida Mae DOB 2 July 1865 Indiana
1900 census for Galena Tap, Jasper County, Missouri, taken 16 June
Thurston, Talitha, mother in law, WD, age 58, born Miss, father IN, mother Germany Born Oct
1841
Irish, Nelson Boarder, age 67, born May 1833 in Oh, father Vermt, mother OH, widower, a
Gardener
Myers, Thomas, head, born Apr 1867, age 33, married 2 yrs, born IN, parents, UN a Hotel cook
Myers, Susan M, wife, age 39, born Nov 1869, 9 child, 5 living, born IN, father, PA, mother Miss
Myers, Harry A, son, age 1, born Jan 1899, KS, father IN, mother IN
1860 census for Bluffton, Liberty Twp, Wells County, IN. Take June 2, 1860
Matlack, Nathan G, age 42, farmer, born PA
Matlack, Telitha, age 20 born Arkansas
1879 Tax assessment for King City Twp, McPherson County, KS
N G Matlock listed
1880 census for Castle, McPherson County, KS June 2, 1880
Matlack, Nathan G, age 55 Div, born Pa, also parents, Waggonmaker
1885 census for Nickerson, Reno County, Kansas
Matlack, Nathan G age 68 married WagonMaker
Matlack, Christina, age 85
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:08:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
There were 3 daughters. Ida Mae DOB 1865, Susan Mary 1860 and my gr grandmother
Margaret Lavina DOB 1864.
Margaret Lavina married a Binder and she died 1912 and is buried in City Cemetery in
Vancouver....you walk along the side walk and there is a gravestone that looks like a tree
stump...that is hers.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:08:29 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
No, (1) is written in the column, and at the top it indicates that (1) means married.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:08:26 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy, THIS Peter JACK was the son of Pilchuck Jack and Pilchuck Julia
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:06:40 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Marge,
Here's an interesting PETER JACK:
at
JACK or JACKSON, Peter - Marshfield, Vermont
M_Comstock (View posts) Posted: 22 Jun 2004 4:42PM
Classification: Query
Surnames: CLARK, COMSTOCK, JACKSON, NORMAN, SWEETAPPLE
I have posted before searching for parents of Stephen Clark or Ella Jackson. Since I have found
parents of Ella Jackson thought I'd post again in case this makes a connection!! Parents of Ella
Jackson are Peter Jack & Louisa Pike. The Jack family seems to have become the Jackson family
as the years went by. Peter Jack's parents may be Peter Jack & Betsey. Does this connect with
anyone??
Rootsweb board:
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.washington/1883/mb.as
hx?pnt=1
FROM: Steve on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:05:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Judy, can you tell us more about Nathan's children?
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:05:15 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Joy, does that mean they were married to each other for 1 year?
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:04:47 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I also noticed there were other Matlack family members in Reno County, KS and wondering if
they were related.
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:03:51 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1885 Kansas Census
Nickerson, Reno, Kansas
1 March 1885
Page 109-111
Nathan G Matlack, 68, m,w, (1) [Married], Wagon Maker, place of birth: Penn; Where from to
Kansas: Indiana
Christina Matlack, 85, m, w, (1) [Married], place of birth: Virginia; Where from to Kansas; Iowa
Source Information: Ancestry.com.. Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1925 [database
on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2009. Original data:
Line: 3; Roll: KS1885_111
FROM: riley on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:03:36 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Evening everyone. I tried some more research and found someone has a family tree with the
daughter of Talitha listed. They called her Elizabeth and last name Spradlin.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:02:14 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Joy and Judy!
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:01:54 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I found him in 1885 in Reno County Kansas, but emailing with Judy, she already had that
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:00:43 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
We're wondering if that "unofficial" is something new added by WA Dig Arch
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:00:27 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Here are Judy and Joy - maybe now we can learn something about her Matlock, Matlack family. I
wonder how many ways they could spell that name? Lots probably.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 2:00:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Steve,
I'm glad you were looking.
I didn't look past my Antrim maps.
Ballymoney to Ballymena - Mapquest directions - go SE to Ballymena
25 Minutes 18.2 Miles - Zoom Out 2 clicks to see Belfast further to the SE
http://tinyurl.com/dk5ptt
(Carneatly) Enagh1911.pdf and AntrimMapD.pdf - south of Stranocum (10 and14)
Elder Alexander D 20 Male - Ag laborer b. Antrim
Elder Ruth 30 Female - wife b. Antrim
Elder James Alexander 0 Male b. Antrim
All Presbyterian - English only
***
Enagh Lodge- Ballymoney - map
Exit Ballymoney on Bann Road sign-posted Garvagh, travel one mile and Drumskea Road is on
the left.
Enagh Lodge is on the left, past the turn on the right towards the old house.
http://www.discovernorthernireland.com/Enagh-Lodge-Ballymoney-P4383<
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FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:59:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Betty says that's not the case, Pat... they were still married when he died
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:59:37 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I haven't had time this week to work on any genealogy - mine or others - sorry. It's been run, run,
run all week. I'm tired.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:58:47 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Maybe that couple had the marriage annulled so therefore the marriage was then "unofficial!" :-)
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:58:35 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Marriage of Peter JACK and Hattie DAN on 27 Sep 1898 in Seattle
FROM: Steve on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:58:19 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Has anyone had any luck on the brickwall for Judy? I spent the past hour going through the
census records, but cannot find Nathan beyond 1880.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:57:51 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I've seen a couple of the certificates which have that stamp and they were people who did get
married. If printed on the right kind of paper, the certificate could probably be made to look very
real and official.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:57:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Sounds like it still could
be used for almost anything!
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:57:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy, it's a paper printout
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:57:31 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Betty says that she's never seen "unofficial" on any of the mar certs she's printed from the WA
Digital Archives
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:56:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
The put that "unofficial" stamp across it so people won't use it for legal purposes. That means it's
not certified.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:56:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Marge,
If digital, send to Pat or me
and we can post on our webpages,
so we can display it here.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:55:52 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Why would a marriage cert be deemed "unofficial"?
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:55:20 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy, Miss Betty just handed it to me
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:54:59 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Everything looks quite "normal" except for UNOFFICIAL printed in RED INK across the
document
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:54:53 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Marge,
Did you post on a webpage so
it will show up here?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:54:44 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Who was it for?
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:54:13 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I love those certificates Marge!
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:54:07 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
1898... married by a JP in Seattle
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:54:03 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Did anyone find info for Judy Riley?
I was working on ELDER in County Antrim this week. Found 253 entries
in 1911 online census for Antrim.
Now I'm looking at Township maps to see where
those interesting sounding villages are located!
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:53:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Marriage cert from WA Digital Archives (bless 'em)
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:53:18 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I have an interesting document to share with you all
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:50:28 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Nancy -
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:50:02 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I told the lady from Ridgefield about the 1888 map but perhaps she couldn't open it. It has many
of the early settlers' names on it with DLC. I'm sure we can show her a lot of information she will
be able to copy and use.
FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:49:19 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi folks!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:48:59 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Marge - each of our items is a separate raffle so people only put their tickets in on things they
want which works out well for everyone.
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:48:57 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
EVERYONE comes out ahead
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:48:31 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Pat, isn't it wonderful when the local historical folks and the gen folks actually can work together?
FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:47:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
GREAT news, Pat... I just told Miss Carol (our Prez) and Miss Betty (both are coworkers here at
Humble House tonite) and they were most pleased to hear of your success
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:47:02 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I'm also going to be helping out a lady from Ridgefield who is working on the Ridgefield
Centennial. She wants to find out the names and information on the families for their early settlers.
I told her I thought our library had a lot of information for her to use.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:44:50 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Hi Marge! It's so nice to see you here every week. We always enjoy your visit.
The members who won the beautiful book you donated to CCGS was very pleased with it. She
says when she finishes with it, she will probably donate it back for the raffle next time! We cleared
$351 on the raffle which was amazing with our small crowd - less than 40 people attended. There
was no expense for the raffle as everything was donated. Some things were new and several were
"gently used" and everything went!
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:42:32 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
We're already expecting a fairly busy day tomorrow. The Operations Manager from the City of
Camas is coming to the library so three of us can discuss the Camas Cemetery web page with him.
We will somehow be doing the site together or ?? so we have to discuss the possibilities of what
can be done. It should be interesting.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:40:37 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I will be posting a new brick wall project early tomorrow morning. I'll be librarian tomorrow and
need to leave early for "work" so I'll try to have it posted by 6:30 or so.
FROM: PatB on DATE-Apr 9, 2009 1:38:42 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Good evening Steve. I hope we have a crowd this evening. I enjoy having a busy evening so the
time flies by much faster!
FROM: Pat on DATE-Apr 6, 2009 21:15:14 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
I found Mike!! I'll send him an e-mail to connect him with a new cousin.
FROM: Pat on DATE-Apr 6, 2009 21:09:11 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Here's a brick wall from Judy Riley for us to work on this week. She says: "I would like info on
Nathan G Matlack...could also be Matlock
1860 census has him at Bluffton, Liberty Township, Wells County, IN with wife Telitha age 20
born in Arkansas. I found him in 1880 in McPherson County KS. What happened to him after
that? Can we find him parents?
How about Telitha? Family lore says she had 3 husbands, Nathan the first, then Mr. Irish and 3rd
was Mr. Thurston.
These are my great grandmother's parents."
FROM: Joy on DATE-Apr 6, 2009 17:09:12 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
it was in this transcript
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~waccgs/11-13-08.txt
Original Query was:
This is a query we received from a fellow named Mike:
"Trying to find living relatives for Luther Davis who died in Clark County, WA in 1907, and who
is buried in Mountain View Cemetery. Children were born between 1859 and 1868 in Jennings
County, IN and were named Clara (married James Willey), Elmer (married Mary Gallimore),
Andrew Fouts (married Matilda Christ), Jacob P. (married "widow" Jensen), and Minnie (married
Michael Lynch). Thank you. Mike"
(June Gibbons was June WILLEY Gibbons)
FROM: Pat on DATE-Apr 4, 2009 19:42:22 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
A friend saw we were searching for information on June Gibbon November 2008. She has
information on the family. What is it we're looking for? Anyone remember? Please post it here.
FROM: Nancy & Pat on DATE-Apr 3, 2009 12:51:35 GMT-DATE
MESSAGE:
Nancy Elder Petersen and Patricia McKee Bauer, along with several regular visitors, will be
staffing the GenChat room beginning about 6:45 p.m. Thursday evening. We close the door about
9:00 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time.
We have visitors who will give you a willing helping hand with your genealogy brick walls. You
can enter questions or answers at any time but we hope you will be able to join us when we are
open for discussions.
BRICKWALL PROJECT:
There's no special topic yet for Thursday. If I receive something prior to that time, I'll post it.
Please click on the "log-out" button (lower right) before you leave.
Meanwhile, you can see our past transcripts with the link below:
Past transcripts: www.rootsweb.com/~waccgs/p3424.htm
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