May 26, 2009 Remember to begin reading this transcript from the bottom to the top! FROM: Steve C on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:45:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I have not seen Sophia's death certificate. She passed in Broome County, NY and is buried in Cortland, NY. FROM: billw on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:44:47 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good night, and thanks. FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:44:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good night everyone. FROM: Ronnie on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:44:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Thanks to all of you for your time and talents. It's been fun just looking in. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:43:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good night to all. Thanks for the information and conversation. FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:43:56 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Time for me to leave... hope to see you all NEXT Thursday... might bring a few SIGS folks with me... take care... FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:43:54 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good night FROM: Charles on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:43:34 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: nite Pat FROM: Steve on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:43:32 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Tonight is the substitute Thursday this week. No more live GenChat until next week (6/4). FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:43:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Family Search Labs http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start If you don't have access to the 1900 census, you can search for Sophia Klemo there and see it FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:43:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Gnight all! FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:42:56 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat, Congrats to all! FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:42:41 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: We're closing down now. It's been fun - thanks a lot everyone. See you next month! Goodnight now. FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:42:03 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: We're probably going to wind down here and leave you. So we're going to say goodnight soon. We had our election and the VP's were re-elected and we have co-asst. sec-treas - Larry Germann and Cheryl Brooks. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:40:38 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Are we planning on going until 9 PM tonight or when does the CCGS meeting end? FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:40:27 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Steve C, have you been able to get her Death certificate? FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:40:24 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Will any of the attendees be in the channel not THIS Thursday, but NEXT Thursday? FROM: billw on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:40:23 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Both of the nominees were elected. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:38:24 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Is someone at the meeting going to mention the results of any election held tonight? FROM: Steve C on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:38:21 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Thanks for helping me with my beloved grandmother Sophia Klemo. FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:38:20 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: It's been kind of hard to keep up with everything but it has been interesting. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:38:16 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, Especially if Ron Adams logs in from Southern California, so he'll tell us how warm his swimming pool is lately. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:37:01 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat, did you mention to the group that sometimes we also chat about non-genealogy topics, such as the weather, etc.? FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:36:26 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat, using TWO projectors is a GREAT idea... FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:33:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I probably won't be able to post this transcript until tomorrow morning but I'll do it early - probably before 6:15 so you can look for it then! FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:32:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat, Are there any comments so far on different queries? FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:32:24 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good night, Jane. FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:32:17 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:31:10 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good night, Jane FROM: Jane G. on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:30:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Thanks Jim for checking on the Wolf name earlier. I'm checking out now. FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:29:07 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: We have two screens going here at GenChat Live - Steve has one with ways of searching and we have the regular GenChat screen also. Interesting! FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:25:53 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, South Carolina Ships' Lists by Victoria Proctor http://sciway3.net/proctor/state/SC_ships.html Colonization began in 1670 with the settlement of about 150 people at Albemarle Point, on the west bank of the Ashley River -- across from modern day Charleston. The fortified settlement was named Charles Town. In the early days (1600's), established English colonists on Barbados were lured by the Lords Proprietor to emigrate to Carolina. By 1680 the colony's population was about 1000 and growing. In that year (1680), French Huguenots came, followed by English Dissenters and Scots. In the 1700s, many sailed directly from the Old World to the Carolinas, encouraged to immigrate to the Province through promises of free land (example: Bounty Act of the General Assembly passed 25 July 1761). Many others, however, migrated overland into South Carolina from other colonies -- particularly from North Carolina and Virginia, both before and after the Revolutionary War. Please keep in mind that early settlers arrived in South Carolina in a variety of ways and you may need to look at Passenger Lists for states like Virginia, Massachusetts, North Carolina, etc. to find your immigrant ancestor. Passengers to the Carolinas - 1600s Passengers to the Carolinas - 1700s Passengers to the Carolinas - 1800s See also Naturalization and Citizenship Records FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:23:12 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Thanks. I will have to look at this site more thoroughly. The French and Indian Wars were 1754-1760. I actually am interested in the time period prior to 1754. FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:22:46 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, it looks like Ancestry has marriage records from 1641 FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:21:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, South Carolina Genweb at http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hills/3837/ FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:21:17 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Looking at Norway digital archives I'm finding only 3 Klemo (all males). I find more Klemme or Klemma http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=m eldingar&spraak=e FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:18:33 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Google.com search for "South carolina" and French and Indian war finds http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/spring97/newspapers.html FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:16:36 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Any ideas of how to find South Carolina records prior to the Revolutionary War? FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:13:21 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Ancestry.com I entered Sophia Klemo with no other information and that was the only record that came up FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:12:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, a fire in 1940 does NOT bode well... FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:12:29 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I do not see immigration records for Victoria, BC. There are some for Vancouver, BC. FROM: Steve C on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:11:48 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Charles Nelson Roe FROM: billw on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:11:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy, what search site did you use to find Sophia Klemo in 1900? FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:11:29 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: MissMarge, these records appear to be arrivals to San Francisco. An extract from them states: "...In the absence of official port records--which were destroyed by the fire in 1940--this ambitious work attempts a reconstruction of passenger arrivals from newspapers and journals." FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:10:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Steve C... Who did Sophia Klemo marry? FROM: Steve on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:10:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: No luck on Klemo search at either CastleGarden or EllisIsland websites. FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:09:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: 1900 United States Federal Census about Sophia Klemo Name: Sophia Klemo [Sophia Klema] Home in 1900: Seattle Ward 4, King, Washington Age: 20 Birth Date: Nov 1879 Birthplace: Norway Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Female Relationship to head-of-house: Lodger Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Marital Status: Single Residence : Seattle City, King, Washington Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ina Webster 27 Dora B Webster 20 Edith Harrington 23 Sophia Klemo 20 FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:08:23 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Charles FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:08:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Another result with webpage for DAVID SPINKS of Coshocton OH at http://www.familyorigins.com/users/j/o/n/Rita-M-Jones/FAMO1-000 1/d17.htm 38. David SPINKS (1) was born on 8 Jun 1827 in Coshocton, Oh. He served in the military on 16 Aug 1862 in Green Co, Indiana - Union- Pvt. Co. C, Reg 97, Infantry. David Spinks enrolled at Greene Co. Indiana in the Union Army in the Civil War. He served in Company C , Regiment 97, Indiana Infantry, he was 35 years old when he enlisted on August 16, 1862. He was wounded on July 28, 1864 in Georgia. David later became a sergeant in Co. C. He died on 22 Apr 1905 in Cane Hill, Ak. He was buried on 23 Apr 1905 in Cane Hill, Ark in West Cemetery 3 miles east of Cane Hill and 3 miles west of Lincoln Ark. In 1981, after my grandmother Ethel Taylor Morrison's funeral, my family and I went to Cane Hill, Arkansas in search of David Spinks and Anna Riddle Spinks graves. The first graveyard we went to in the city limits was not the right one. I had Sarah Spinks death certificate from her pension files and it said to drive east of Cane Hill. We drove east and did not see a designated Cemetery. I asked a person standing in his yard if he knew of any cemeteries in the area other than the one in Cane Hill and he said he did. It was located on a chicken farm just up the road and was back on the far side of the property. We went to the location and found no one at home but decided to look for the cemetery. It was located far back and had only 10 or 12 graves of which the two I was looking for were located. I took pictures of the graves and noted that they are in great need of being cleaned up. I intend to notify the Arkansas Historical Society and the Daughters of the Confederacy to see if we can do something about the little cemetery located on the 295 acre farm. FROM: Charles on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:07:54 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Everyone FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:07:02 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Charles. FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:06:45 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: There will be a Grand and Glorious LOTZGESELL Family Reunion this summer, and it'd be MOST wonderful if the family had real passenger lists to admire... FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:06:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Using Google.com, I found a webpage for DAVID SPINKS in COSHOCTON OH http://shelleysscrapbooklayouts.com/Genealogy/getperson.php?per sonID=I25938&tree=Heritage Birth 8 Jun 1827 Coshocton Co., Ohio Find all individuals with events at this location Gender Male Census 1860 Greene Co., Indiana Find all individuals with events at this location Census 1870 Greene Co., Indiana Find all individuals with events at this location Census 1880 Washington Co., Arkansas Find all individuals with events at this location Died 22 Apr 1905 Washington Co., Arkansas Find all individuals with events at this location Buried West at Cane Hill, Washington Co., Arkansas Find all individuals with events at this location FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:05:29 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, these lists would be "incoming", right? Now, if Ancestry had ships' lists for Victoria... FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:04:19 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, that may be a GREAT clue FROM: Steve on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:03:25 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: One Klemo in the 1900 census, but from Finland. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:02:52 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Ancestry.com also has the following datbases: San Francisco Ship Passenger Lists Vol I [1850-1864] San Francisco Ship Passenger Lists Vol II [1850-1851] San Francisco Ship Passenger Lists Vol. III: November 7, 1851 to June 17, 1852 FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:02:51 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Using Google.com, Now I see the webpage for "Genealogy of Joseph Wyers" by Norm Wyers at http://www.normwyers.com/wyers/genealogies/josephwyersdescen dants.htm FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:01:42 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: For those who haven't used the Washington Digital Archives, here is the URL http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/default.aspx FROM: Steve C on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:01:09 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: My brickwall: grandmother Sophia Maria Klemo arrived USA 1896 from Norway. What ship did she come in and when and where entered USA? I found her marriage in Seattle in 1901. FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 3:00:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, thanks... a bit too late for Our Guy... name is George LOTZGESELL, an authentic Washington Pioneer-type guy FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:58:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jerry's TREMBLAY of Quebec: REGION HISTORY: South of the St-Lawrence river and northeast of the Eastern Townships is the tourist region Chaudière-Appalaches. It is dominated by the Chaudière river, notorious for its ice jams and spring flooding. The Craig and Gosford Roads, opened in the early 1800s, allowed immigrants from Scotland and Ireland to homestead on land in this area. Thetford Mines, known for its asbestos, and "la Beauce" with rolling hills, maple bushes and snowmobile trails are also part of the region. "Beaucerons" speak French in amazingly fast spurts and exhibit a fiercely entrepreneurial spirit. Chaudière-Appalaches also includes the shore of le fleuve St-Laurent south of Quebec City, where some of the first settlers farmed and built sawmills and grist mills. FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:58:13 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Oops. Song should be son. Got carried away with my typing. LOL FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:57:47 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Ancestry has a burial record for Thiodore Timothe Tremblay, song of Timothe Tremblay and Florence Cripeau in 1864 Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 about Theodore Timothe Tremblay Name: Theodore Timothe Tremblay Event Year: 1864 Event: Enterrement (Burial) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a burial record for Timothy Tremblay, song of Timothe Tremblay and Florence Cripeau in 1864 Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 about Timothy Tremblay Name: Timothy Tremblay Event Year: 1864 Event: Enterrement (Burial) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Maurice Tremblay in 1865. baptise Maurice Legitimate Marriage of Timothie Tremblay, and Florence Cripean (or Cripeau) Quebec (St-Roch) B 281 p 58 Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Marie Agnes Tremblay Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Name: Marie Agnes Tremblay Event Year: 1866 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Timothie Tremblay in 1867 St-Tite-des-Caps B 4 November baptise Timothie Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Flaurence Cripeau Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Joseph Thiodore Tremblay in 1869 Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Event Year: 1869 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Tite-des-Caps Province: Québec (Quebec) FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:57:41 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here are Christening records for some of the children of the elder Timothy Trombley and his wife Florence Crepeau: Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Archer Tremblay I can't read French, but I can decipher Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Name: Marie Agnes Tremblay Event Year: 1850 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Marie Rebecca Tremblay Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Name: Marie Agnes Tremblay Event Year: 1852 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Marie Calixte Tremblay Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Name: Marie Agnes Tremblay Event Year: 1855 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Marie Laure Tremblay Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Name: Marie Agnes Tremblay Event Year: 1859 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Sara Trembley born in 1860 Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Event Year: 1860 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Marie Agnes Tremblay Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Name: Marie Agnes Tremblay Event Year: 1861 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Burial record for Marie Agnes Tremblay Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 about M Agnes Tremblay Name: M Agnes Tremblay Event Year: 1861 Event: Enterrement (Burial) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Timothie Deodore Tremblay in 1862 Legitimate of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Event Year: 1862 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: St-Joachim Province: Québec (Quebec) Ancestry has a Catholic Christening record for Theodore Timothie Tremblay in 1864 Baptise Theodore Timothie Legitimate marriage of Timothie Tremblay and Florence Cripeau St-Joachim B 1r FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:57:24 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Nancy's Louis TREMBLAY: b: 14 AUG 1703 in Petite Riviere, bap. Baie St-Paul, QC m. Brigitte Fortin b: 1 FEB 1707/08 in Baie-St-Paul, QC http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=de marce2&id=I09440 FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:56:41 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: MissMarge, I found the following at Ancestry.com: California Passenger and Crew Lists, 1893-1957 FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:56:04 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here's my notes for Jerry's TRAMBLAY/TREMBLAY at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/tro m/OvideTramblayNat.htm and a little French: Coordonnées du propriétaire de la base Carmen et Alain Dussault http://www.chez.com/gencaretal/dat672.htm Tremblay, Ignace-Elzéar Sexe: Masculin Naissance : 31 juillet 1748 à Petite-Rivière St-François, BSP, QC Baptême : 1 août 1748 à Petite-Rivière St-François, BSP, QC Occupation : Laboureur Marraine, Brigitte Lavoye; on dit dans l'acte que . Parents: Père: Tremblay, Louis-André Mère: Simard, Ursule FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:55:28 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: On Ancestry.com in public member trees: FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:54:17 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jerry, We did find some location info that matched my TREMBLAY names, also, so we might be able to connect to the immigrant PIERRE TREMBLAY if we really worked at it, in FRENCH, especially! FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:53:42 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: When you look at the Old City Cemetery records, you will find the name F Biesecker or Frances Biesecker owning lots for several different families - Thibodeau, Trombley, Schoonover... so now we can see the connection since she was born a Thibodeau, Married a Trombley, Married a Biesecker, and her sister was married to a Schoonover. FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:53:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here's a picture of Judy Riley from our web page: FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:51:27 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Found in 1900 census: Name: Nellie Furzer [Nellie Furrer] Home in 1900: Salt Lake City Ward 3, Salt Lake, Utah Age: 10 Birth Date: Jan 1890 Birthplace: Australia Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1891 Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter Father's Name: George W Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Name: Mary Mother's Birthplace: Australia Marital Status: Single Residence : Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah Household Members: Name Age George W Furzer 35 Mary Furzer 27 Nellie Furzer 10 Evelyn Furzer 9 FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:51:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Try as I might, I have been unable to connect this Tremblay family with my Grandmother's Trembley family. This is a very common surname in Quebec making it hard to research. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:50:21 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: One more found in a Chat transcript: Name: Nellie Farzer [Nellie Furzer] Age in 1910: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Birthplace: Antarctica Relation to Head-of-house: Daughter Father's Name: George Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Name: Mary Mother's Birth Place: England Home in 1910: Salt Lake City Ward 3, Salt Lake, Utah Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Female Year of Immigration: 1896 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Farzer 43 Mary Farzer 37 Nellie Farzer 19 Evelyn Farzer 18 Florence Booth 17 Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Salt Lake City Ward 3, Salt Lake, Utah; Roll: T624_1607; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 131; Image: 319. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~waccgs/5-7-09.txt FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:50:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Clark County Washington Births 1891-1907 #53 Trembley, Nov 7, 1891, Vancouver, female, white, alive, Legitimate, Thibodeau, Fannie (no age listed), white, 2, Canada, Trembley, Matty, 24, white, Laborer, Canada FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:49:01 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: 1920 Census Colby, Kitsap, Washington 7 Jan 1920 Biesaker, Elber S., head, m, w, 49, wd, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, New York, Machinist, Unemployed Viola A, daughter, f, w, 21, s, Washington, Wisconsin, So Dakota, Stenographer, Brokerage Anna, daughter, f, w, 19, Washington, Wisconsin, So Dakota Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Colby, Kitsap, Washington; Roll: T625_1931; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 63; Image: 1086. 1920 Census Vancouver, Clark, Washington 7 January 1920 Beisecker, Frances, head, f, w, 44, wd, 1881, na, Canada French, Canada French, Canada French, Matron, B. Jail 3 roomers living with her Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Vancouver, Clark, Washington; Roll: T625_1922; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 25; Image: 178. FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:48:31 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Nancy and crew... does Ancestry offer any San Francisco ARRIVAL records? FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:47:45 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: So what happens to Timothy Trombley's wife Frances Thibodeau? Daughter Eva is on the 1910 Census as a stepdaughter to Elbert S Biesecker: 1910 Census Vancouver, Clark County, Washington Precinct D 28 April 1910 Biesecker, Elbert S, head, m, w, 46, m2, 6, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Merchant, Clothing store Francis E, wife, f, w, 37 m2, 6, 6/2, Kansas, Can French, Can French Alfreda V, daughter, f, w, 11, s, Washington, Wisconsin, North Dakota Louise A, daughter, f, w, 9, s, Washington, Wisconsin, North Dakota Trombley, Eva J, step daughter, F, W, 17, s, Oregon, Can French, Can French And the Washington Digital Archives has their marriage: Clark County Washington Marriages #1830 Marriage Return Date of license: March 9, 04 (1904) Groom: E S Biesecker Age: 33 Color: White No. of groom's marriages: 1 Residence: Vancouver, Wash Birthplace: Wisconsin Occupation: Sheriff - Clarke Co Father's Name: Ira Biesecker Mother's name: Rosemaud Bride: Frances E Trombley Maiden name if a widow: Thibodeau Age: 29 Color: white No. of bride's marriages: 1 Residence: Vancouver, Wash Birthplace: Canada Father's name: Remie Thibodeau Mother's maiden name: Emery Date of Marriage: March 9, 04 Place of Marriage: Vancouver, Wash by whom married: R Yeatman, Bapt Minister Witnesses 1 H M Swartz 2 Mrs H M Swartz FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:47:07 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: VERY good suggestion, Nancy! FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:46:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Concerning the Mary Wolfe brickwall: there are no Neeves burials in Washington which have been posted to the Find A Grave or Interment websites. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:46:12 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Switching to the interesting query about Panama, I used Google.com search, with phrase "Panama route" and 1850's found: http://www.trainweb.org/panama/maps.html Includes Map of the Yankee Strip 1849 - 1855 FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:43:36 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: And although some of the census records say they came from Canada in 1886, they were actually in Cloud County, Kansas in 1885: 1885 Shirley, Cloud County, Kansas Trembly F (or T?), 57, m, w, married, Farmer, Canada, Canada Florry, 56, f, w, married, Canada, Canada Marus, 20, m, w, single, Canada, Canada Timothy, 17, m, single, Canada, Canada Theo, 14, m, single, Canada, Canada Source Information: Ancestry.com.. Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1925 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2009. Original data: Line: 1-4; Roll: KS1885_25 (Note: Ancestry has this surname transcribed as Trennbly) FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:41:50 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 about Timothy Trombley Name: Trombley, Timothy County: Portland Death Date: 22 D 1940 Certificate: 4106 Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 about Henry T Trombley Name: Trombley, Henry T County: Lane Death Date: 5 Feb 1967 Certificate: 2009 Spouse: Winnie Social Security Death Index about Henry Trombley Name: Henry Trombley SSN: 540-10-3879 Last Residence: 97402 Eugene, Lane, Oregon, United States of America Born: 28 Oct 1892 Died: Feb 1967 State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 about Winnie May Trombley Name: Trombley, Winnie May County: Lane Death Date: 2 Sep 1988 Certificate: 88-18248 Age: 88 Birth Date: 8 Jan 1900 Spouse: Henry Social Security Death Index about Winnie M. Trombley Name: Winnie M. Trombley SSN: 540-05-8180 Last Residence: 97402 Eugene, Lane, Oregon, United States of America Born: 8 Jan 1900 Died: Aug 1988 State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951) FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:41:06 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I Think this is probably Timothy in 1930 1930 Census Vancouver, Clark, Washington 11 April 1930 Trumbley, Timothy, lodger, m, w, 63, wd?, Canada, France, France, 1876, na, Carpenter, general Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Vancouver, Clark, Washington; Roll: 2485; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 44; Image: 833.0. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:38:48 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: More about TROMBLEY on Genchat: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~waccgs/11-21-02.txt nancyp: Jerry: I see another note from Deborah: "Eugene Trombley's sister, Sarah Gay's family owned a Tugboat Co on the Columbia River in the 30's and 40's. nancyp: Jerry: Under the bar photo I printed: "Leo Trombley abt 1915/20, Hotel in Vancouver owned by Azelea Barbara Mary Tombley" nancyp: Found "Leo Trombley, a painter, address in City Directory: 1114 W. 8th St, Vancouver, also "Mrs. Annie Trombley" at that address. FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:38:30 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here's where Henry and his Dad went to Canada (and when Henry must have found his bride and had his Canadian daughter, Myrtle: Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935 about Timothy Tremblay Name: Timothy Tremblay Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Arrival Port: White Rock, British Columbia Date of Arrival: 23 Jan 1912 Birth Location: Canada Gender: Male Citizenship: American Tremblay, Timothy, 42, Carpenter, Can, US Mich., GWR, Train no 358 Seattle, Vancouver, $85.00 Tremblay, Henry, 22, Carpenter, Wash, US, GWR, Train no 358, Raymond, WA, Vancouver, $100.00 Source Citation: Library and Archives Canada, 1908-1935 Border Entries, Roll: T-5503 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: Library and Archives Canada. Border Entries. Ottawa, Canada. RG76, T5461-T5507, T15249-T15344, T15346-T15393. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:37:48 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Deborah posts in 2001: http://geneasearch.com/female/femaleancestors016.htm Anna Marie/Maria Martin Trombley ? Kansas? Maurice Tremblay/Trombley 1890 Kansas, Illinois, Washington State, Oregon, as well as British Columbia and Alberta. Annie Martin Trombley married Maurice Tremblay/Trombley in February of 1890 in Aurora, Kansas..Annie's parents of record are Joseph Martin and Julie Landry..Annie was 1/4 Native American/Canadian Indian and had several siblings. The names I have for her siblings are as follows..Stella, married a man with the surname Wade and lived in Portland, Oregon. She had two sons one of which passed away following a motorcycle accident..Delia, married a man with the surname Wagner and had two children both born before 1915. One of these children was named William and he is beleived to have been an ambulance attendant who was later charged with arson and incarcerated. Delia lived in Vancouver, Washington..Louise, married a man named Fred Bailey and lived in several areas including Washington State and Oregon. It is thought that she passed away in Portland, Oregon in the early 1960's. As far as we know she had no children..Fred Martin, it is unclear if he ever married, however we beleive he had a son by the same name who was an engineer of some sort and worked in one of the major cities in Washington state on the street car lines in the 1940's and 1950's..There may have been other siblings..This Martin Family was of French origin and their first language was French. .I'm searching for the final resting place of Annie (beleived to be in Portland, Oregon) and her death date which is thought to have been between 1946 and 1953. .Any information on her would be greatly appreciated.. Deborah dwdwone@hotmail.com FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:36:40 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: The Henry Trombley from the 1900 census (son of "Mattur" and Fannie) shows up in Solana California in 1920... with his FATHER living with him, and the father is Timothy. I believe that Timothy son of Timothy from the 1887 Clark County Census is Mattie / Mattur (and the mis transcribed Walter). Remember that they are French Canadian and the Timothy could sound like Mattie. 1920 Census Vallejo City, Vallejo, Solano, California 10 January 1920 Trombley, Henry, head, m, w, 28, m, Washington, Canada French, Kansas, General helper, Navy yard Myrtle, daughter, f, w, 4 8/12, s, 1915, Canada, Washington, Canada English Timothy, Father, m, w, 51, wd, 1869, na, father, Canada French, Canada French, Canada French, Carpenter, city Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Vallejo, Solano, California; Roll: T625_149; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 212; Image: 830. WWI Draft Registration Henry Trombley 928 1/2 Capitol, Valejo, Cal Born: October 28, 1889 Natural born Where were you born? Vancouver, Washington Painter, U S Government, M V Naval Hospital supports wife, 1 child Married Medium height, Medium build, Brown Eyes, Black hair, not bald Filed June 5, 1917, Solano, Cal FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:36:14 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Deborah's old webpage : said "photo of Tremblay siblings circa 1938 and a list of relationships (link not working now) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tremblay/index.html Deborah was online with us in 2001: CCGS chat is posted: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~waccgs/5-3-01.txt She wrote: I'm hoping to find the name of a hotel in Vancouver, Washington or Portland, Oregon that was owned by my great grandmother Anna (Annie) Marie/Maria Trombley between 1912 - 1920. A photo of her son Leo Trombley behind the counter at this establishment can be seen at: http://www.geocities.com/genepics_2000/pictures_page_eight.html If you know the name of the Hotel please contact me... ** Leo TROMBLEY - photo in Vancouver Washington - Hotel Bar about 1915/1920 at http://www.geocities.com/genepics_2000/pictures_page_eight.html FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:35:39 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hello, CCGS! Marge from Sno-Isle Gen Society here. Need some suggestions as to the best way to trace a migration route from New York City to San Francisco via Panama. Time period 1858. MAY have been accompanied by wife and two VERY young children (both b NY). Has anyone ever tried to find passenger lists for this sort of migration route? To add to the confusion, family lore ALSO includes another migration story "they went 'round the Horn'"... FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:34:23 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I'm sorry that the e-mail addresses I tried for Deborah, posting before 2002, now aren't working. FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:33:02 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: The Eva mentioned in the 1900 census, died in 1911 There is a death record for Eva Trombley on Washington Digital Archives She died 30 July 1911 at age 18 In Vancouver, Clarke, Washington Father is Monte Trombley Mother is Fannie Thibodeau Eva Trombley - Monte Trombley - Fannie Thibodeau - Washington State Death Records Record Series: Death Records Collection: Washington State Death Records County: Statewide da reference number: {71CFF3C1-60DA-4A69-B990-E5146FFF09EB} image number: 1671 document number: 108 document reference id: cn 150 name: Eva Trombley date of death: 30 Jul 1911 age: 18 gender: Female race or color: place of burial: burial year: cemetery name: father name: Monte Trombley father birth place: mother name: Fannie Thibodeau mother birth place: additional relatives: batch id: 522004 batch locality: Washington, United States burial date: death place: Vancouver, Clarke, Washington mother name gn: Fannie mother name surname: Thibodeau note birth place: note burial date: note burial place: note death date: note death place: note pr name: residence: spouse name: street address: FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:32:34 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: More about Timothy Trombly (from French Canadian TREMBLAY Follow up with Google search for "TIMOTHY TROMBLEY and TREMBLAY" found http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/KSCLOUD/2001-05/09899 38015 From: "DW" <dwdwone@direct.ca> Subject: [KSCLOUD] Found some of my Martin's and many Tremblay/Trombley members... Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:46:55 -0700 In-Reply-To: <BFEAJ BKBBEPAFGHPPMAHIEFOCEAA.buetvsia@netins.net> Hi Everyone... >I've found the final resting place and the burial dates of several of my elusive MARTIN family and my TREMBLAY/TROMBLEY family... >It appears that my MARTIN's moved west in about 1890 to Vancouver, Washington... My maternal Great, Great Grandfather Joseph MARTIN and his wife Julie LANDRY MARTIN appear to have taken all but one child with them to the west... this being my mggranmother Anna Marie MARTIN TREMBLAY who married Maurice TREMBLAY in Cloud County... >Below are some of the dates... the place of burial is St. James Acres Cemetery which is/was affiliated with the St. James Catholic Church in Vancouver, Clark County, Washington. I know that there were Boudreau's, Gay's (Guay) people in the same area as they are related to my Tremblay family... Anny M. Trombley, 1875 - 1955, Sister (4 Mar 1955) Timothy Trombley, 1867 - 1940, Father (Tromblay, 24 Dec. 1940) Julia Martin, 1852-1929. Mrs Joseph Martin Sr., 7 June 1929. Joseph Martin - 1850-1932 (he died 18 July 1932) Joseph Martin 19 Sept 1918 Eugene Trombley, 1850 - 1941 (9 Oct 1941); Sarah A. Trombley, 1877 - 1958 (Sarah Ann Trombley, 11 Mar 1958) Mathias J. Trombley, 1877 - 1954 (26 Mar 1954) Excer Trombley, 1881 - 1900 (note: Excor Trombley, 30 Apr 1920!); Ludevine Trombley, 1847 - 1917 (note: Ludwine Tromblay, 30 Apr 1920!); All of the above people spent time in the St. Anne Area and most have information recorded in some of the Cloud County translations of Church registers... I hope that some of this information is helpful to others... Sincerely, Deborah BC, Canada FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:31:36 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: On "Walter" Trombley... I believe that the name Walter was picked up from a MIS-Transcription on Ancestry.com The Transcription is what Nancy just posted, but the actual image is: 1900 Owl Creek, Cowlitz, Washington 104/108 Thibodeau, Francis, Head, w, m, July 1876, 23, s, Canada Fr, Canada Fr, Canada Fr, 1886, 14, na, Logger Has 6 boarders, including Thibodeau, Alexander, boarder, w, m, Oct 1860, 39, s, Canada Fr, Canada Fr, Canada Fr, 1886, 14, na, Laborer logging camp 105/109 Trombly, Mattur, head, w, m, Nov 1867, 32, m, 8, Canada Fr, Canada Fr, Canada Fr, 1886, 14, na, Laborer logging camp Fannie, wife, w, f, May 1873, 27, m, 8, 2/2, Canada Fr, Canada Fr, Canada Fr Henry, son, w, m, Nov 1890, 9, s, Washington, Canada Fr, Canada Fr Eva, Daughter, w, f, Apr 1892, 8, s, Oregon, Canada Fr, Canada Fr Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Owl Creek, Cowlitz, Washington; Roll: T623_1742 Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 40. Notes: They have been married 8 years, but the children are 8 and 9 But the actual im FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:30:09 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: More about Timothy, posted as Walter Trombly 1900 Name: Walter Trombly [Mattie Toombley] Home in 1900: Owl Creek, Cowlitz, Washington Age: 32 Birth Date: Nov 1867 Birthplace: Canada Fr [Canada French] Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1886 Relationship to head-of-house: Head Father's Birthplace: Canada Fr Mother's Birthplace: Canada Fr Spouse's name: Fannie Marriage Year: 1891 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 9 Residence : Owl Creek and Upper Cowspen Precincts, Cowlitz, Washington Household Members: Name Age Walter Trombly 32 Fannie Trombly 27 Henry Trombly 9 Eva Trombly 8 Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Owl Creek, Cowlitz, Washington; Roll: T623_1742 Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 40. FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:28:24 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: This is from Jim Cochran in Santa Rosa, CA. The second one comes from Jim Cochran, our regular GenChat visitor. He says: "My 3rd great-grandfather was William Cochran. He was born on 15 May 1753, probably in South Carolina. He was a Revolutionary War soldier and served the Colonies as a member of a South Carolina brigade. He did receive a pension for a few years prior to his death on 24 Apr 1821 in Boone Co., MO. After the Revolutionary War, he moved to Kentucky. He married Sarah Margaret Gamble on 3 Mar 1789, probably in KY. Sarah was born on 27 May 1768, location unknown, and died on 18 Jun 1845 in Boone Co., MO. Both William and Sarah are buried in a small family cemetery between Columbia and Rocheport, Boone Co., MO. I have visited this cemetery and have pictures of their graves. William and Sarah had 9 children including Sarah Cochran, Anna Woods Cochran, John Gamble Cochran, and William Cochran. I do have the names of the other children except for the youngest who may have been stillborn. * Who were the parents of William Cochran (senior)? What documentation exists that ties this William Cochran to his parents?* The problem is complicated by the fact that there were 4 different William Cochrans of about the same age in SC at this time. There also were 4 different men named Samuel Cochran who could be the father of these children named William Cochran. Circumstantial evidence suggests that the Samuel Cochran who married Sarah Woods may be the father of William Cochran, b. 1753." FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:28:07 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: 1887 Census Clark County, Washington Territory 1 June 1887 Township 3 Timothy Trombley, 58, m, w, Farmer, married, Canada Florence, 58, f, w, married, Canada Maurice, 23, m, w, single, Canada Timothy, 19, m, w, single, Canada Theodore, 17, m, w, single, Canada Same page: M. Trombley, 36, m, w, Farmer, married, Canada Serafine, 34, f, w, married, Canada Eliza, 25, f, w, single, Canada Delia, 23, f, w, single, Canada (Delia is the bottom of the page) Next page (top of page) R. Thibodeau, 57, m, w, farmer, Canada Mary, 47, f, w, Canada Joseph, 19, m, w, Canada Fanny, 18, f, w, Canada Frank, 10, m, w, Canada Rose, 7, f, w, Kansas Louisa, 5, f, w, Kansas FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:26:46 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: This is from Glen JOnes: This brickwall is especially for Nancy and Jerry. These are familiar names to anyone in GenChat - but the question was sent by Glen Jones. He says: "Here it goes, trying to find info on a Walter "Matty" Trombly lived near Remi (Ranie) Thibodeau and supposedly married one of His daughters this about 1900. I have found some info in our library in the cemetery books but not Walter the closest i come is a M. J. Trombley, some of the Trombley's and Thibodeau's are buried in the Old City Cemetery as well as some of the Trombley's are Buried In St. James. Both Families are distantly related to my Jones family relatives, and I am trying to help out them in researching these families. Walter may be related to Mathias Trombley and His father could possibly be Eugene Trombley our St. James cemetery book shows Mathias J. Trombley 1877-26 March 1954 and Eugene 1850- 9 October 1941, I have obits for both, born in Canada, lived for a time in Kansas, got some info today at the Ft. Vancouver Regional Library. Also a related family is the "Gagnon" Family also buried at St. James." FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:24:36 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I'm going to post two more brickwalls. Be right back. FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:24:07 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jane, I posted the .pdf file on my webpage to share here: >Pat sent another brick wall query, from Jane Germann. It's long, so I posted the .pdf file on my webpages. at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/W olfe.pdf She writes: Mary L. Wolf(e) How to I find any info on Mary Wolf before 1850? Did she belong to a religious groups traveling to Oregon prior 1848? That was one suggestion at a meeting, but I don't know how to even find this out. How did she meet Joseph? Did they know each other before coming to Oregon? Just where did Mary die? Did she die in Columbia County, WA? and more... FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:23:24 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jane FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:23:07 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good evening, Jane. Welcome to GenChat. FROM: riley on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:23:01 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Evening Jane...Judy Riley here in Poulsbo. Miss working with you on transcribing ccgs records in Vancouver FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:19:15 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi, Steve C. FROM: Steve on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:17:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat: It might be good to mention that GenChat works with many different operating systems and browsers. FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:17:11 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here we are and I want to introduce Nancy Peterson. FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:17:04 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Steve and Bill FROM: riley on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:15:40 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, good for you. I had sister in law photo our family in Mt. View and will get them posted as well to findagrave. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:14:43 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Steve and Bill. FROM: riley on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:14:43 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, the cemetery is the oldest one in Poulsbo. This town had a lot of Norwegian immigrants and this was a Lutheran church. FROM: billw on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:14:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hello all from the CCGS general meeting. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:14:23 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Judy, a month ago I stopped in Walla Walla and took 130+ photos at Mt. View Cemetery. I have already posted most of them to Find A Grave. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:11:45 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Judy, was that a cemetery near Poulsbo? FROM: riley on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:07:43 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy, I think between us we have several hundred extended family in local cemeteries. Certainly appreicate the photos and obits that CCGS has posted. Instead of having to mail info to family members can just refer them to the website. FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:06:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: That's great, Judy FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:05:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Judy. Great work! FROM: riley on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:05:15 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Evening from Poulsbo, Wa Just thought I would tell you how daughter I spent memorial day...photographing over 200 graves in a local cemetery...many of them are Norwegian ancestory. Still have a couple hundred more graves to go. Will post them on Findagrave FROM: Ronnie on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:03:55 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Yup. I sure can't sneak in on you, Marge. FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:03:35 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Ronnie FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:02:56 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Yes, I did notice. I think that I added 41 obits to the Park Hill files. FROM: Ronnie on DATE-May 26, 2009 2:00:47 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi everyone. FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:59:57 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Thank you, Jim. I know it was a lot! I have at least 42 extended family members buried at park hill, and I sent you most of those obits. LOL FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:59:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Ronnie. FROM: Norm Wyers on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:58:43 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Joy. Thanks. FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:58:40 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Norm FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:58:14 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Norm. FROM: Norm Wyers on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:58:08 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi. I am Norm Wyers, g-g-grandson of Joseph Wyers, who might be researched tonight. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:58:01 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Joy, I finished all of your obits except for the Misc. ones. They should all be on the website by now. FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:57:28 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Norm. Welcome FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:57:10 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim... "normally"??? MOI??? FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:55:34 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Nancy. FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:55:23 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Miss Marge, if they truely want to see what goes on during our "on-line" conversation, just carry on as you normally would! FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:54:49 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Nancy FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:54:28 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Nancy FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:54:01 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi, Nancy FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:53:48 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi folks! FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:53:10 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Jim, I don't want to be mindlessly yakking away in front of The Membership... FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:52:37 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: So far everyone in here is NOT at the meeting except for Pat. Steve told me he would be connecting at the meeting as well FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:52:01 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: If they are going to have some elections before our dimenstration, is someone going to keep us informed about those elected? FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:51:40 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: OK... is there any way to tell who is actually AT the meeting and who is not? FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:50:59 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jim FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:50:33 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: We're waiting for the CCGS meeting to join us FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:50:13 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jim FROM: Jim on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:49:56 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Good evening to all. It looks like there are several early birds tonight. FROM: Joy on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:47:48 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi Jerry FROM: jerryt on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:47:21 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi everyone FROM: PatB on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:44:14 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi I'm at the Library Annex and we'll be starting the meeting shortly. Bill Whalley will have his computer on the screen and I'll be doing some typing and showing folks what we do - probably a lot of talking involved - hope my voice holds up. FROM: MissMarge-SIGS on DATE-May 26, 2009 1:39:18 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Hi, Pat FROM: Nancy Elder Petersen on DATE-May 26, 2009 0:17:20 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Pat sent another brick wall query, from Jane Germann. It's long, so I posted the .pdf file on my webpages. at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/W olfe.pdf She writes: Mary L. Wolf(e) How to I find any info on Mary Wolf before 1850? Did she belong to a religious groups traveling to Oregon prior 1848? That was one suggestion at a meeting, but I don't know how to even find this out. How did she meet Joseph? Did they know each other before coming to Oregon? Just where did Mary die? Did she die in Columbia County, WA? b. 4 July 1829, PA (Bible records in her own hand indicate birth not place; census indicates the place on several census reports as PA; census varies for her birth from 1827 to1832) m1. 9 March 1848, Oregon (she married Joseph Robinson Switzler after arriving in Oregon Territory). Have extensive details here. Do not have a marriage record other than the family Bible. Clackamas records were apparently spotty in the beginning. She may have a record with the person who performed the ceremony. It is supposed to be in a small library between Portland and Salem ???? m2. 11 July 1881, both of Multnomah Co, OR, to Alfred Neeves, with Minnie Duvall, William Neeves at the Occidental Hotel, City of Portland, by A. Bushwiller, JP Couch precinct. Alfred was 20 years junior to Mary. Alfred Neeves was 30 and living with the Switzler family in 1880, St. Johns, Multnomah, Oregon; Mary is 51. d. 29 Oct 1889, unknown would have died as Mary L. Switzler Neeves --- perhaps in Garfield County, W.T. where she is listed in 1886. Otherwise Oregon and Washington are places where she could have died. Known residences: 1829 Pennsylvania according to several census reports. 1830 there are at least 200 Wolf's to choose from on the index 1840 was there an intermediary place; did she come through Missouri like Joseph? 1847 to Oregon Territory 1850 Oregon Clackamas Co. with Joseph and two children: John W. age 2 and Sarah G. age 1, Mary lists PA as birth. 1860 Oregon Multnomah Co. with Jos, 6 children and laborer Dan'l Harrington from PA. 1870 Oregon, Multnomah Co. Hub Joseph died the previous year and is on the mortality schedule; she is listed with five children. 1880 Oregon St. Johns, Multnomah, Oregon, age 51, father and mother born Pennsylvania, a widower with Francis M. Switzler age 27, Charles Switzler age 13, and Alfred Neeves age 30. She later married Alfred Neeves. 1883 Washington Territory, Clark County Census, March 11, with Switzler boys 1887 Washington Territory, Columbia County Census, age 48 PA, married ; next person is a Lewis Neace, age 52, Germ; Elizabeth Neace age 42 Iowa; John Neace age 20, W.T.; Lewis Neace age 18, W.T.; Isaac Neace age 16, born W.T.; Ellen Neace, 14, W.T.; Frank Neace, 12, W.T.; Jas Neace, 7, W.T.; Doll Neace, 5, W.T.; __ Neace, 1, W.T. and more....on .pdf file FROM: Pat on DATE-May 26, 2009 17:56:17 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Just testing with my mini-laptop! FROM: Pat on DATE-May 26, 2009 17:35:02 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: We will have two more brickwalls that I will post as our GenChat Live is beginning this evening. Then the guys and gals can demonstrate the type of info they are able to find. FROM: Pat on DATE-May 26, 2009 17:27:12 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Here's the first brickwall for this evening: Surnames: FURZER, HEATH Nellie FURZER was b. 22 Jan 1895 in Melbourne, Australia. She emigrated to the U.S. and was living on a pig ranch in Haley, Idaho in 1910; the ranch was owned by Horace Albert HEATH, a member of the LDS church. Nellie and Horace were married 19 Jan 1911 in Salt Lake City. Where can I find Nellie in 1910 and before 1910? In what year did she leave Australia? I know she had a sibling Eva b. in Australia, and other siblings. What were the other siblings' names and where were they born? I have not yet searched the 1910 Census. Sharon S. of Lynnwood. FROM: rita jones on DATE-May 24, 2009 16:36:09 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I can be reached at nrmmj@airmail.net FROM: rita jones on DATE-May 24, 2009 16:35:01 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: I have a brick wall - David Spinks b. Jun 8, 1827 Coshockon, Ohio d. Apr 22, 1905 Cane Hill, Arkansas m. Dec 22, 1840 Green Co., Indiana to Anne Riddle b. Mar 4, 1831 Greene Co., Indiana d.Jan 14, 1916 Cane Hill, Arkansas daughter of Samuel Riddle and Elizabeth Wilson. I have been unable to locate the parents of David Spinks. I think it may be George Spinks b. about 1795 in New Jersey who migrated to Ohio. I have been searching for 40 years, perhaps you can help. David Spinks daughter Sarah married Raphe Norval Hatfield. I have all the information on the Hatfields and on the Riddle Line. FROM: Pat on DATE-May 23, 2009 21:30:10 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Just checking it out to be sure it posted right. See you TUESDAY evening! FROM: Nancy & Pat on DATE-May 23, 2009 21:29:26 GMT-DATE MESSAGE: Nancy Elder Petersen and Patricia McKee Bauer, along with several regular visitors, will be staffing the "GenChat Live" beginning about 6:45 p.m. TUESDAY evening, May 26. We will close the door about 9:00 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time. (We will not be here Thursday evening, this week only.) This is a special event as we will be LIVE at the CCGS General Meeting. The meeting will begin at 7 pm and after the election of members to fill two offices, we will be on the big screen at the meeting. Pat will actually be at the meeting, along with those attending who would like to bring their laptop computer and hook up to Internet with us. We have visitors who will give you a willing helping hand with your genealogy brick walls. You can enter questions or answers at any time but we hope you will be able to join us when we are open for discussions. We will have some special brickwalls for our visitors to work with. They will be announced at the meeting. Please click on the "log-out" button (lower right) before you leave. Meanwhile, you can see our past transcripts with the link below: Past transcripts: www.rootsweb.com/~waccgs/p3424.htm